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Is homicide wrong?
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Posted 7/25/08

royalprincessariel wrote:


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killing another man in honorable combat is the only way to Valhalla and eternal life until the end of time! therefore, "homocide" is a necassary part of the world. Odin does not honor those who do not fight for their glory on the battlefield.


you are thinking about to die for glory, but homicide means to MURDER.
So that is a different story...


to some, it is one and the same.


but i do agree with you. all murderers should be forced into the Holmgang with their hands tied.
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wow... this is a rather touchy subject, due to the fact it pretty much concerns all human principles from religion to natural instinct to the foundation of society itself... i myself do not believe in any kind of religion, and therefore do not depend on anyone telling me what is right or wrong, whether something is a sin or not... The concept of right and wrong is purely human... Man had to establish a set of morals to lay the base for society... thus stealing became wrong, killing and hurting became wrong, disobeying the rules and laws established by higher authorities became wrong... and that is how the human society came to survive and multiply uncontrolably to this day...
To those who beleive killing is a sin, wait and ask yourself why you think so... is it because you thought so yourself? that you shouldn't do to others what you don't want done to yourself? that concept itself is flawed, you don't say 'i won't eat the cow caus' i don't want it to eat me" or "i won't get the best grade caus' i wouldn't like having others get better grades than me..." as long as its for personal benefit, things like that don't matter to the individual...
and in most cases people just restrain from killing because its a law and you don't want to suffer the consequences... but a soon as the law factor is gone, killing seemingly becomes perfectly justified, and man goes to war to defend his great morals, killing other to justify the fact that killing is wrong...
so no, i don't believe killing is a sin, and i don't believe there is any right or wrong...
The human being is at the top of the food chain, if it doesn' t kill itself, it won't be by anything else, and we'll soon end up dying of starvation having consumed all natural resources on the planet, that's just the way of things... it might suck but that's just the way it is... (this might not make any sense to anyone but i sure had a hell of a lot of fun writing it)


u got hell alot of good points!!! if i just may add something, itz not only that ppl dont kill caz itz the law or they dont want to suffer the consequences its also caz they were TAUGHT and brought up in an environment in which all actions are labled right and wrong and they follow that


You've got some strong points there but I would like to have a say and question your concept of 'HOMICIDE'.

Firstly, yes I agree that laws are made by humans but they are made for a reason. Would you want to see killings in the street and homes, blood everywhere and you yourself constantly fearing for no particular person, just fearing you might be killed? Homicide DOES NOT involve killing cows and animals, it is killing FELLOW humans secretly and unlawfully.

Yes, man had to and DID establish a set of morals, but for what reason? So to avoid chaos etc.


and that is how the human society came to survive and multiply uncontrolably to this day...


if we don't multiply, then what is the point surviving, do we wish to become extinct? No!

Killing others to justify the fact that killing is wrong is right providing that it is done lawfully. Murderers deserve to be killed because they killed others, but of course if someone who is generally good suddenly killed a person for money because they need it to survive, it is wrong but I think there are alternatives other than killing them. We need to give hope, a second chance... and then if that doesn't work then....PUNISH!


In the end, no matter what your (everyone's) arguments are, it is NOT RIGHT( BUT NOT NECESSARILY WRONG) to kill ANY living things.
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you got a really good point. Animals, human, and plants are living things. yet animals and plants are killed to be fed to us. I don't think it is wrong to killed animals and plants because they are things need to survival. But to killed a human is kinda wrong. I don't know why but, to end a human life is something we can't do, but Him.
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Posted 7/25/08

royalprincessariel wrote:


SadMystery wrote:


Lithium23 wrote:

wow... this is a rather touchy subject, due to the fact it pretty much concerns all human principles from religion to natural instinct to the foundation of society itself... i myself do not believe in any kind of religion, and therefore do not depend on anyone telling me what is right or wrong, whether something is a sin or not... The concept of right and wrong is purely human... Man had to establish a set of morals to lay the base for society... thus stealing became wrong, killing and hurting became wrong, disobeying the rules and laws established by higher authorities became wrong... and that is how the human society came to survive and multiply uncontrolably to this day...
To those who beleive killing is a sin, wait and ask yourself why you think so... is it because you thought so yourself? that you shouldn't do to others what you don't want done to yourself? that concept itself is flawed, you don't say 'i won't eat the cow caus' i don't want it to eat me" or "i won't get the best grade caus' i wouldn't like having others get better grades than me..." as long as its for personal benefit, things like that don't matter to the individual...
and in most cases people just restrain from killing because its a law and you don't want to suffer the consequences... but a soon as the law factor is gone, killing seemingly becomes perfectly justified, and man goes to war to defend his great morals, killing other to justify the fact that killing is wrong...
so no, i don't believe killing is a sin, and i don't believe there is any right or wrong...
The human being is at the top of the food chain, if it doesn' t kill itself, it won't be by anything else, and we'll soon end up dying of starvation having consumed all natural resources on the planet, that's just the way of things... it might suck but that's just the way it is... (this might not make any sense to anyone but i sure had a hell of a lot of fun writing it)


u got hell alot of good points!!! if i just may add something, itz not only that ppl dont kill caz itz the law or they dont want to suffer the consequences its also caz they were TAUGHT and brought up in an environment in which all actions are labled right and wrong and they follow that


You've got some strong points there but I would like to have a say and question your concept of 'HOMICIDE'.

Firstly, yes I agree that laws are made by humans but they are made for a reason. Would you want to see killings in the street and homes, blood everywhere and you yourself constantly fearing for no particular person, just fearing you might be killed? Homicide DOES NOT involve killing cows and animals, it is killing FELLOW humans secretly and unlawfully.

Yes, man had to and DID establish a set of morals, but for what reason? So to avoid chaos etc.


and that is how the human society came to survive and multiply uncontrolably to this day...


if we don't multiply, then what is the point surviving, do we wish to become extinct? No!

Killing others to justify the fact that killing is wrong is right providing that it is done lawfully. Murderers deserve to be killed because they killed others, but of course if someone who is generally good suddenly killed a person for money because they need it to survive, it is wrong but I think there are alternatives other than killing them. We need to give hope, a second chance... and then if that doesn't work then....PUNISH!


In the end, no matter what your (everyone's) arguments are, it is NOT RIGHT( BUT NOT NECESSARILY WRONG) to kill ANY living things.


i hope i dont sound rude or mean >.<
the person i quoted and I, we r not saying that homicide is right, but we r also not saying that homicide is wrong.
there is a very thin line between right and wrong and we both stand there.
ppl made the rules caz they selfishly do not want lose wat it takes 2 have a happy good life
but reality isnt happy and good. its neither bad.
the strongest survives thatz the basics.
and morever killing just for fun is insane, i agree w/ that.
wat wat we consider as homicide consists of killing 4 revenge and so on.
more ever abt the point of becoming extinct, we wont.
caz the strongest SURVIVES.
y do u give a "good" person second chance while the "bad murderers" dont get any.
both the good and bad ppl werent either good or bad. they both were labled according 2 their actions which was influenced by certain events in their life.
Lithium and I just saying that these r just opinions so we both neither stand for wheter it is right or wrong we r in the neutral boundary. =]

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royalprincessariel wrote:

Guys and Girls, Remember Homicide is the deliberate and unlawful killing of one person by another. In other words MURDER!!
homicide also means to kill someone not openly and without any particular reason except the strong desire to hurt and kill other people.

Killing to survive or with a good reason and purpose,not just because you want to kill a fellow human being or you hate them, then that is not wrong ...

But I am only saying that IS NOT WRONG, that does not mean it is RIGHT.


All I am trying to say is.....

Guys, everyone should avoid killing (anything) as much as they can. After all, we are KILLING living things.


so if u analyzed it a lil more we both r saying the same points but in different words

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SadMystery wrote:


royalprincessariel wrote:


SadMystery wrote:


Lithium23 wrote:

wow... this is a rather touchy subject, due to the fact it pretty much concerns all human principles from religion to natural instinct to the foundation of society itself... i myself do not believe in any kind of religion, and therefore do not depend on anyone telling me what is right or wrong, whether something is a sin or not... The concept of right and wrong is purely human... Man had to establish a set of morals to lay the base for society... thus stealing became wrong, killing and hurting became wrong, disobeying the rules and laws established by higher authorities became wrong... and that is how the human society came to survive and multiply uncontrolably to this day...
To those who beleive killing is a sin, wait and ask yourself why you think so... is it because you thought so yourself? that you shouldn't do to others what you don't want done to yourself? that concept itself is flawed, you don't say 'i won't eat the cow caus' i don't want it to eat me" or "i won't get the best grade caus' i wouldn't like having others get better grades than me..." as long as its for personal benefit, things like that don't matter to the individual...
and in most cases people just restrain from killing because its a law and you don't want to suffer the consequences... but a soon as the law factor is gone, killing seemingly becomes perfectly justified, and man goes to war to defend his great morals, killing other to justify the fact that killing is wrong...
so no, i don't believe killing is a sin, and i don't believe there is any right or wrong...
The human being is at the top of the food chain, if it doesn' t kill itself, it won't be by anything else, and we'll soon end up dying of starvation having consumed all natural resources on the planet, that's just the way of things... it might suck but that's just the way it is... (this might not make any sense to anyone but i sure had a hell of a lot of fun writing it)


u got hell alot of good points!!! if i just may add something, itz not only that ppl dont kill caz itz the law or they dont want to suffer the consequences its also caz they were TAUGHT and brought up in an environment in which all actions are labled right and wrong and they follow that


You've got some strong points there but I would like to have a say and question your concept of 'HOMICIDE'.

Firstly, yes I agree that laws are made by humans but they are made for a reason. Would you want to see killings in the street and homes, blood everywhere and you yourself constantly fearing for no particular person, just fearing you might be killed? Homicide DOES NOT involve killing cows and animals, it is killing FELLOW humans secretly and unlawfully.

Yes, man had to and DID establish a set of morals, but for what reason? So to avoid chaos etc.


and that is how the human society came to survive and multiply uncontrolably to this day...


if we don't multiply, then what is the point surviving, do we wish to become extinct? No!

Killing others to justify the fact that killing is wrong is right providing that it is done lawfully. Murderers deserve to be killed because they killed others, but of course if someone who is generally good suddenly killed a person for money because they need it to survive, it is wrong but I think there are alternatives other than killing them. We need to give hope, a second chance... and then if that doesn't work then....PUNISH!


In the end, no matter what your (everyone's) arguments are, it is NOT RIGHT( BUT NOT NECESSARILY WRONG) to kill ANY living things.


i hope i dont sound rude or mean >.<
the person i quoted and I, we r not saying that homicide is right, but we r also not saying that homicide is wrong.
there is a very thin line between right and wrong and we both stand there.
ppl made the rules caz they selfishly do not want lose wat it takes 2 have a happy good life
but reality isnt happy and good. its neither bad.
the strongest survives thatz the basics.
and morever killing just for fun is insane, i agree w/ that.
wat wat we consider as homicide consists of killing 4 revenge and so on.
more ever abt the point of becoming extinct, we wont.
caz the strongest SURVIVES.
y do u give a "good" person second chance while the "bad murderers" dont get any.
both the good and bad ppl werent either good or bad. they both were labled according 2 their actions which was influenced by certain events in their life.
Lithium and I just saying that these r just opinions so we both neither stand for wheter it is right or wrong we r in the neutral boundary. =]



O, I C... yes i agree with you and you are not rude at all...
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royalprincessariel wrote:

O, I C... yes i agree with you and you are not rude at all...



thanx 4 understanding
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Legally it's wrong.

But aren't there people overseas killing people over nothing? Isn't that murder? Explain how any of that shit is justified. It's wrong in most cases, but...

In my opinion, if some person where to rape and kill another person, I wouldn't care if the killer got killed as well... after all, who wants that piece hanging around? And fuck the whole 'jail' idea, all they do is LIVE... unless they were 'fortunate' enough to get put in one of those prisons where the other inmates rape and abuse each other, they deserve death. >=\

But when it is an innocent person, it's not right in anyway.
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Posted 7/26/08
to me thers a difference between plain murder and killing someone or something
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Posted 7/26/08
i still think its wrong
even if people think its okay
if u kill someone deep inside
ur getting messed up
Posted 7/27/08
it depends.. unless you're God..

but i think that it's wrong.. VERY wrong.
Posted 7/27/08
depends on whether ur d killer or d victim
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let me ask u a question.....do u like to be killed by other people? im sure not, that means its also a big NO NO for u to kill other human.animals are animals, they live by instinct, we live by logic and reasoning..but if u kill to defend urself then its justifed.

in the case of survival....if u kill ur fellow jst to survive then ur no less than an animal.....and i will not consider u as one of my race as a human.if there is a will w/o hurting each other then there a way to survive....


you are so right I agree with you
Posted 8/4/08
In some cases, of course if you're killing someone just for the hell of it it's very wrong, but if you're lets say a cop, and some criminal has some people hostage and is threatening to kill them, then I'd say it's justifiable.
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Yes...thats why murderers go to jail. Its immoral, its downright stupid and human life is too precious to be meaninglessly slaughtered...

Why even ask that question?!?
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