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Is homicide wrong?
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It depends, firstly i will use the word sin in the meaning of "morally wrong" because I do no practice any religion. If there is a mass murder who simply kills for enjoyment then yes, it is wrong. However there are also many cases in which is it justifiable. For instance if a loved one was murdered by said murderer and you happen to be a vigilante then killing said individual would probably not be viewed as sin. There are also the cases of duels, although they probably don't happen in our age would also apply as well as killing someone for the purpose of cannibalism for the means of self-preservation.
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o0James0o wrote:


jmsberg wrote:


o0James0o wrote:

what makes a human's life worth more than an animal/plants'?


Nothing really in a true physiological sense. But humans are sure a lot less edible



why is that?

Animals kill each other and eat each other all the time. They have individually evolved unique ways of hunting and warding off predators. The human has evolved a way of hunting and warding of predators by developing a thing called intelligence. Ancient humans would hunt using traps and strategy rather than brute strength like a bear. I must reiterate, man is an animal that eats animals, just like other animals, man just hunts its food differently. So if you want to remove human morality from the context of the discussion you're going to have to consider the morality of nature. Take the ocean for example. If fish could scream the ocean would be loud as shit because fish are being gored all the time.

From the standards of nature, I conclude that the animal known as man is far more benevolent than other predators. Man is the only animal that makes an effort to slaughter its prey in a humane manner. Man is the only animal that cares for animals of a different species. Man is the only carnivore that occasionally refuses to eat other animals out of sympathy.

Also, in reference as to how the animal kingdom works, animals typically are not cannibalistic. The taste of one's own species is not appealing to any one creature.

BTW, you're 14, what makes you think you have a point to make? You're attempt at a controversial thread does not impress me, its stupid emo hogwash.
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Edited the title for you.


Well, it literally means "man killing", and as far as moral ethics, are concerned, this is definitely not acceptable. But you used the word "sin", and this enters a different arena, altogether. Religious stands may view the moral act of killing a man differently, depending on the victim in question. I won't veer into specifics for fear of giving an example that isn't necessarily true, but I think you get my drift...


But I like to apply a Kantian duty perspective on this, and as far as the categorical imperative is concerned, homicide is most definitely an immoral act. Is it a sin? Questionable.
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It's not a question about sin (at least say right or wrong >.<).

What did you learn from the viking stories from iceland?

Let's say there was no laws against taking anothers life... what would happen if you went out and shoot someone?
He would probably have somekind o family that would be kinda(lol) pissed and then after beating a couple of witnesses you would be smoked.

If there is no law people tend to take care of it themself.

Now that i think we has concluded that its stupid (more to come there if you want), is it bad?
Lesse if someone killed your mother you would probably be sad, right?
By taking out something that you think is bad you may indirectly affect someone/something else.

don't wanna write no more...
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Well, animals kill off other animals. I think its part of life if you use it to survive.
Doing it unnecessarily is just stupid, and is a sin.
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Unlike animals we live by reason, faith, and moral -most of which ignore the latter-. If you use reason, you won't go killing other people, if you use moral, homicide is a sin.
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Posted 2/11/08 , edited 4/21/08

jmsberg wrote:


o0James0o wrote:


jmsberg wrote:


o0James0o wrote:

what makes a human's life worth more than an animal/plants'?


Nothing really in a true physiological sense. But humans are sure a lot less edible



why is that?

Animals kill each other and eat each other all the time. They have individually evolved unique ways of hunting and warding off predators. The human has evolved a way of hunting and warding of predators by developing a thing called intelligence. Ancient humans would hunt using traps and strategy rather than brute strength like a bear. I must reiterate, man is an animal that eats animals, just like other animals, man just hunts its food differently. So if you want to remove human morality from the context of the discussion you're going to have to consider the morality of nature. Take the ocean for example. If fish could scream the ocean would be loud as shit because fish are being gored all the time.

From the standards of nature, I conclude that the animal known as man is far more benevolent than other predators. Man is the only animal that makes an effort to slaughter its prey in a humane manner. Man is the only animal that cares for animals of a different species. Man is the only carnivore that occasionally refuses to eat other animals out of sympathy.

Also, in reference as to how the animal kingdom works, animals typically are not cannibalistic. The taste of one's own species is not appealing to any one creature.

BTW, you're 14, what makes you think you have a point to make? You're attempt at a controversial thread does not impress me, its stupid emo hogwash.

Actually, isn't the difference our level of sentience, and how we think at a much higher level than any other species, such as morality.
Posted 2/11/08 , edited 4/21/08
It`s against the laws . It`s against the Ten Commandments - ' Thou shall not kill . ' and also , against the Canadian , American , Chinese , Japanese , Korean , Filipino , British , etc ... law as far as I know . However , it is not wrong to accidentally kill another because you were protecting yourself , or so my teacher says .
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Theoretically there's nothing wrong with beneficial killing. Killing each other off is a natural process of natural resource management. There is 1 thing that two organisms want, one will die and the other with live. Not there is an adequate supply of resources for the 1 remaining organism. Another example can be where a few organisms are damaging the population. They are killed or discarded to maintain homeostasis of the entire group. The worst part about killing isn't the end of life (aside from the dead individual's crappy luck). It's the fact that we understand our own species' emotional level and realize the people it may affect. Perhaps, you can weigh out the benefits from the damage done to figure out such a decision. From fear and community connections, we have this universal understanding of not killing each other for no reason. Some cultures stress it even more than others. So, is it a sin? Well, since a sin is based around religion; it's almost always a sin in a religious viewpoint. Although if god asked you to kill someone, it's not?
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Is homicide a sin?? LOL

you are kidding right? you are asking questions like that? I am sorry but are you some kind of a ret*rded?

Picture this one...

We are siblings and i will kill you? Am I righteous or not? You know the right answer.. so stop asking such stupid questions.

Just remember this.
God gave us cognitive and freewill...
Freewill to do anything we want..
Cognitive to know what is wrong and what is right...


who da heck is the god ur speakin of?!... and ur the retard here....


Don't quote my post if you didn't understand what i said, Well i don't want to quarrel a 14 year old kid... but if you don't understand my post.. its time for you to get a English tutor. I call you retard because you are asking if homicide is a sin?... LOL... IDIOT.

p.s Type intelligently,

A intelligent person can be recognize by the way he writes his words.
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o0James0o wrote:

we kill everyday in order to survive, be it plant or animal, its all life.
therefore, is it really a wrong thing to kill a person?..


ps.... i just noticed... its homi not homo... -.-


depends on your definition of "wrong." If you're a Cynic and believe the only people that are "good" are the virtuous and self-sufficient, then homicide is "evil" if it is done outside of necessity. If you follow most any religion, then it is deemed wrong or evil. If you define "wrong" as something that you don't agree with, then it's purely a personal choice.
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homicide is good sometimes.
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johnsever wrote:


o0James0o wrote:


johnsever wrote:

Is homicide a sin?? LOL

you are kidding right? you are asking questions like that? I am sorry but are you some kind of a ret*rded?

Picture this one...

We are siblings and i will kill you? Am I righteous or not? You know the right answer.. so stop asking such stupid questions.

Just remember this.
God gave us cognitive and freewill...
Freewill to do anything we want..
Cognitive to know what is wrong and what is right...


who da heck is the god ur speakin of?!... and ur the retard here....


Don't quote my post if you didn't understand what i said, Well i don't want to quarrel a 14 year old kid... but if you don't understand my post.. its time for you to get a English tutor. I call you retard because you are asking if homicide is a sin?... LOL... IDIOT.

p.s Type intelligently,

A intelligent person can be recognize by the way he writes his words.


im sorry but geniuses act different from wannabes....

ps. "u dont judge a book by its cover"


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o0James0o wrote:

we kill everyday in order to survive, be it plant or animal, its all life.
therefore, is it really a wrong thing to kill a person?..


ps.... i just noticed... its homi not homo... -.-


depends on your definition of "wrong." If you're a Cynic and believe the only people that are "good" are the virtuous and self-sufficient, then homicide is "evil" if it is done outside of necessity. If you follow most any religion, then it is deemed wrong or evil. If you define "wrong" as something that you don't agree with, then it's purely a personal choice.


im srry but im non religious.... and anyways... y do most religion say killing a man if immoral?...


jmsberg wrote:


o0James0o wrote:


jmsberg wrote:


o0James0o wrote:

what makes a human's life worth more than an animal/plants'?


Nothing really in a true physiological sense. But humans are sure a lot less edible



why is that?

Animals kill each other and eat each other all the time. They have individually evolved unique ways of hunting and warding off predators. The human has evolved a way of hunting and warding of predators by developing a thing called intelligence. Ancient humans would hunt using traps and strategy rather than brute strength like a bear. I must reiterate, man is an animal that eats animals, just like other animals, man just hunts its food differently. So if you want to remove human morality from the context of the discussion you're going to have to consider the morality of nature. Take the ocean for example. If fish could scream the ocean would be loud as shit because fish are being gored all the time.

From the standards of nature, I conclude that the animal known as man is far more benevolent than other predators. Man is the only animal that makes an effort to slaughter its prey in a humane manner. Man is the only animal that cares for animals of a different species. Man is the only carnivore that occasionally refuses to eat other animals out of sympathy.

Also, in reference as to how the animal kingdom works, animals typically are not cannibalistic. The taste of one's own species is not appealing to any one creature.

BTW, you're 14, what makes you think you have a point to make? You're attempt at a controversial thread does not impress me, its stupid emo hogwash.


to make myself clear here, im askin y is it that human r a lot less edible...(by chance u eat 1 b4?)

and whats wrong with 14?... u cant blame me for askin questions that even u cant answer..~
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o0James0o wrote:

we kill everyday in order to survive, be it plant or animal, its all life.
therefore, is it really a wrong thing to kill a person?..


ps.... i just noticed... its homi not homo... -.- (thx to the mod for the fix)

pps... i mean sin as in something really really wrong.... non connected to religion... (never really knew that sin is that much connected to religion...i guess i need to study my words next time)


The word "sin" implies a religious wrong-doing, so your question should be "Is homicide (morally) wrong"? That is a personal question that you should answer for yourself.

Personally, I think all things are conditional. So if someone said something like: "Murder is always wrong", I would have to disagree. But to speak generally, yes, homicide is a "sin".
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I think this tread already gone beyond stupidity...
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