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Now cast aside what your thoughts of illegal gambling is, it's not some mob bosses sitting around a table drinking fine wine and smoking cigars. When I was watching a crime drama on TV someone was busted for illegal gambling and I asked my dad (since he is a part in law enforcement) why it is illegal. He said to me...

"If the house gets a cut then it's illegal, if anyone except the house gets a cut then it's legal."

So it's illegal because the house gets some winnings.... What is the point of the law then!? I can understand if people are killed, I can understand if stolen money was used, I can understand if there was drug involvement, but no it's because some extra guy is getting some cash out of it... WTF man, that's a stupid reason to throw someone in prison.
Posted 5/7/16

Somewhat_Insane_Monkey wrote:

Now cast aside what your thoughts of illegal gambling is, it's not some mob bosses sitting around a table drinking fine wine and smoking cigars. When I was watching a crime drama on TV someone was busted for illegal gambling and I asked my dad (since he is a part in law enforcement) why it is illegal. He said to me...

"If the house gets a cut then it's illegal, if anyone except the house gets a cut then it's legal."

So it's illegal because the house gets some winnings.... What is the point of the law then!? I can understand if people are killed, I can understand if stolen money was used, I can understand if there was drug involvement, but no it's because some extra guy is getting some cash out of it... WTF man, that's a stupid reason to throw someone in prison.


I don't know. I don't know anything about gambling to be honest. Maybe it has some moral or ethical reason?
Posted 5/7/16
>drinking fine wine

They tend to have whisky.
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orcblood wrote:

>drinking fine wine

They tend to have whisky.


Yep that probably would have worked better.
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Somewhat_Insane_Monkey wrote:


orcblood wrote:

>drinking fine wine

They tend to have whisky.


Yep that probably would have worked better.


Then they go and whack people who are messing with their operation.
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Somewhat_Insane_Monkey wrote:

Now cast aside what your thoughts of illegal gambling is, it's not some mob bosses sitting around a table drinking fine wine and smoking cigars. When I was watching a crime drama on TV someone was busted for illegal gambling and I asked my dad (since he is a part in law enforcement) why it is illegal. He said to me...

"If the house gets a cut then it's illegal, if anyone except the house gets a cut then it's legal."

So it's illegal because the house gets some winnings.... What is the point of the law then!? I can understand if people are killed, I can understand if stolen money was used, I can understand if there was drug involvement, but no it's because some extra guy is getting some cash out of it... WTF man, that's a stupid reason to throw someone in prison.


In areas where gambling IS legal, like Vegas or Atlantic City, it has to be overseen by fair practices.
In the old West, where your poker game wasn't legal, if the other guy was hiding a few extra aces in his boot, you could always run to the Sherriff and say someone had been cheating you in the game you weren't supposed to be playing either...

Expecting fair odds from an illegal gambling site is like expecting healthy prescription drugs bought over the Internet black-market--Who are you going to complain to if they're not?
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In areas where gambling IS legal, like Vegas or Atlantic City, it has to be overseen by fair practices.
In the old West, where your poker game wasn't legal, if the other guy was hiding a few extra aces in his boot, you could always run to the Sherriff and say someone had been cheating you in the game you weren't supposed to be playing either...

Expecting fair odds from an illegal gambling site is like expecting healthy prescription drugs bought over the Internet black-market--Who are you going to complain to if they're not?


It's not the old west anymore and I highly doubt anyone could consider gambling online legit legal or otherwise so it's their fault for trusting it, and that could be filed under a scam. Though I get where you are coming from, it still seems like a pointless law.
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Bit like "why are brothels illegal?" they are everywhere yet apparently illegal? i dont get it.
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Somewhat_Insane_Monkey wrote:

It's not the old west anymore and I highly doubt anyone could consider gambling online legit legal or otherwise so it's their fault for trusting it, and that could be filed under a scam. Though I get where you are coming from, it still seems like a pointless law.


You were asking about the underground mob poker game you saw on TV--If one accused the other of cheating, how do you think the game would end?
That doesn't happen at the MGM Grand. (Trump Atlantic City, maybe, but...)

Now, as for even legal gambling's influence in general, I'm just posting here at a safe idyllic New England distance from Springfield, MA (which recently beat out Detroit in the annual survey of Worst Cities in America...freakin' Detroit, people!), which has spent the last three to five years trying to fight off the casino/hotel complex that MGM has been pressuring the city founders to build to "boost trade and tourism".
Most of us are aware of what trade and tourism it would boost.
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Posted 5/7/16

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Somewhat_Insane_Monkey wrote:

It's not the old west anymore and I highly doubt anyone could consider gambling online legit legal or otherwise so it's their fault for trusting it, and that could be filed under a scam. Though I get where you are coming from, it still seems like a pointless law.


You were asking about the underground mob poker game you saw on TV--If one accused the other of cheating, how do you think the game would end?
That doesn't happen at the MGM Grand. (Trump Atlantic City, maybe, but...)

Now, as for even legal gambling's influence in general, I'm just posting here at a safe idyllic New England distance from Springfield, MA (which recently beat out Detroit in the annual survey of Worst Cities in America...freakin' Detroit, people!), which has spent the last three to five years trying to fight off the casino/hotel complex that MGM has been pressuring the city founders to build to "boost trade and tourism".
Most of us are aware of what trade and tourism it would boost.


No I said to cast aside that thought, on tv it was some kid on his computer taking bets and being paid 10cents as a cut for each bet. Doesn't sound like much but he was getting thousands upon thousands of bets each day so that money adds up. As for the mob thing that could happen when the game is considered legal too, in fact I think most games probably don't include a house just winner take all and probably get shot in the process.
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Unless the government can get a part of the money then it is illegal. So if they can set it up to get the income taxed then the government is more alright with it.
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MrAnimeSK wrote:

Bit like "why are brothels illegal?" they are everywhere yet apparently illegal? i dont get it.


But they ARE legal.



Here anyway :3
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http://www.gambling-law-us.com/Federal-Laws/illegal-gambling.htm


In 1970, as part of the Organized Crime Control Act, Congress passed the Illegal Gambling Business Act. The statute was aimed at syndicated gambling. [120] Congress determined that large-scale, illegal gambling operations, like casino-type activities, including games such as black jack, financed organized crime, which, in turn, has a significant impact on interstate commerce. [121] As such, section 1955 is a direct exercise of Congressional power to regulate interstate commerce [122] and, specifically, the activities that substantially affect interstate commerce.[123]


I guess the point of the law is to regulate interstate commerce.
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Posted 5/8/16

VZ68 wrote:


MrAnimeSK wrote:

Bit like "why are brothels illegal?" they are everywhere yet apparently illegal? i dont get it.


But they ARE legal.



Here anyway :3


They're illegal here yet they are all over the place and everyone knows it. Like how porn is illegal here (to priduce) yet stores sell pron also, openly.
Posted 5/8/16
Not sure- But I'm enjoying my vegas stay pulling the handle on this slot machine with adrink in one hand
maybe i will get a good drop
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