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I'd call myself extremely liberal, to be honest, but I don't really see how strip clubs are an anti-liberal thing. I don't see how strip clubs are sexist at all, honestly; while they don't seem to be as prevalent, there are also strip clubs featuring male dancers.

If one person wants to take their clothes off for money, I don't see why that is an issue that concerns the entire sex they belong to. As it stands now, it's not a terrible job, but ideally there would be less stigma surrounding it. On one side, you have people that say these people are supporting a vile, sexist system, and on the other you have people viewing the people stripping as meat. They are people, and people get to make choices. I have no desire to go to a strip club, but to me, they are perfectly viable. Can't consenting people be allowed to do what they want, so long as they don't harm others?

As to whether strip clubs are more supported by liberals or conservatives... I don't have any idea. Most of the strip clubs in my state (which is conservative) are in its capital city (which is overwhelmingly liberal). Outside of that, I don't know how it all tends to work, if there is any sort of trend at all.
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Schmooples wrote:
As to whether strip clubs are more supported by liberals or conservatives... I don't have any idea. Most of the strip clubs in my state (which is conservative) are in its capital city (which is overwhelmingly liberal). Outside of that, I don't know how it all tends to work, if there is any sort of trend at all.


I would venture to say the only difference between liberals and conservatives on strip clubs is how they try to hide it on their credit card bill. -.-
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Am I getting better though? I think it's better than the one before that, and definitely better than the one before it.


I salute your bait title, may your bait line never be empty.
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maxgale wrote:

All I know is that the Left has a sexism problem when a man is a second-class citizen simply for being a man.


Well, see, it's like running a race where you get a fifty metre head start.

All your life, you've won the race by about twenty metres. Then, one day, they decide you can't have a head start anymore. Suddenly, you are losing the race by thirty metres every time. And you start complaining, "They made me a loser!"

No they didn't. You were already a loser. They were just hiding it from you, then lying to you and calling you a winner.

You're not second-class for being a man. You're second-class for being second-class.





Self-hating males are a terrible sight to behold.
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cdarklock wrote:



maxgale wrote:

All I know is that the Left has a sexism problem when a man is a second-class citizen simply for being a man.


Well, see, it's like running a race where you get a fifty metre head start.

All your life, you've won the race by about twenty metres. Then, one day, they decide you can't have a head start anymore. Suddenly, you are losing the race by thirty metres every time. And you start complaining, "They made me a loser!"

No they didn't. You were already a loser. They were just hiding it from you, then lying to you and calling you a winner.

You're not second-class for being a man. You're second-class for being second-class.





life isn't a race and comparing it as such is stupid. Going by that stupid situation the women could bribe, with just boobs, some dude to tackle the other male runner and win the race by a landslide.

Men and women have natural advantages in different categories. Men are physically stronger but women are better at using emotions, or suckering men, to get what they want. Heck JUST being female gives them giant advantages compared to males. Try creating a female character in a game someday and ask how to play the game, you will be showered in gifts and everyone will try to help you. Do that as a male character and your told "Fuck off noob".

The fact that you say women are so far behind men is quite insulting towards women and is VERY sexist. You are automatically labeling them as "less than a man" by your own little scenario.
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Well, Magical-Soul got banned. Anyone want to discuss that? She appears to have quite a conservative view when it came to women and welfare.




Wait, why she'd get banned?
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Wait, why she'd get banned?
oh well I guess something like that was the reason.

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maxgale wrote:


PeripheralVisionary wrote:

Well, Magical-Soul got banned. Anyone want to discuss that? She appears to have quite a conservative view when it came to women and welfare.




Wait, why she'd get banned?


I assume the mods didn't like her saying that people deserved to be raped. Seemed like around that time is when she got banned.
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maxgale wrote:


PeripheralVisionary wrote:

Well, Magical-Soul got banned. Anyone want to discuss that? She appears to have quite a conservative view when it came to women and welfare.



Wait, why she'd get banned?


I assume the mods didn't like her saying that people deserved to be raped. Seemed like around that time is when she got banned.


You mean "Around that time", or "Around THAT time", that she got banned?
She's had a neurotic (literally) history of working out her self-loathing on crazy gender-paranoia theories about persecuted feminists, and considers temporary-bans mere "interruptions".
The mods are too kind to consider permanent bans, but "Da Honey Badger"'s got all the makings of a classic one.
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Posted 5/9/16 , edited 5/9/16

maxgale wrote:


PeripheralVisionary wrote:

Well, Magical-Soul got banned. Anyone want to discuss that? She appears to have quite a conservative view when it came to women and welfare.




Wait, why she'd get banned?


Are we even reading the same posts? It is pretty obvious what they banned her for. It was a strange mix of misogyny and basically claiming people and forumers who were against her the specific idea that Swedish women deserve rape are liberal feminists. It was extremely inflammatory.

As fond as I am of labels, it is no joke or exaggeration by most any standards to call Magical just plain misogynistic at this point.
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Rujikin wrote:


cdarklock wrote:



maxgale wrote:

All I know is that the Left has a sexism problem when a man is a second-class citizen simply for being a man.


Well, see, it's like running a race where you get a fifty metre head start.

All your life, you've won the race by about twenty metres. Then, one day, they decide you can't have a head start anymore. Suddenly, you are losing the race by thirty metres every time. And you start complaining, "They made me a loser!"

No they didn't. You were already a loser. They were just hiding it from you, then lying to you and calling you a winner.

You're not second-class for being a man. You're second-class for being second-class.



The fact that you say women are so far behind men is quite insulting towards women and is VERY sexist. You are automatically labeling them as "less than a man" by your own little scenario.

Obvious troll is obvious.
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XxDarkSasuxX wrote:


Rujikin wrote:


cdarklock wrote:



maxgale wrote:

All I know is that the Left has a sexism problem when a man is a second-class citizen simply for being a man.


Well, see, it's like running a race where you get a fifty metre head start.

All your life, you've won the race by about twenty metres. Then, one day, they decide you can't have a head start anymore. Suddenly, you are losing the race by thirty metres every time. And you start complaining, "They made me a loser!"

No they didn't. You were already a loser. They were just hiding it from you, then lying to you and calling you a winner.

You're not second-class for being a man. You're second-class for being second-class.



The fact that you say women are so far behind men is quite insulting towards women and is VERY sexist. You are automatically labeling them as "less than a man" by your own little scenario.

Obvious troll is obvious.


If men have an advantage against women then in comparison women are disadvantaged against men. Therefore you are saying that women are lesser than men. Saying one sex is lesser/greater than another is sexist.
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Are we even reading the same posts? It is pretty obvious what they banned her for. It was a strange mix of misogyny and basically claiming people and forumers who were against her the specific idea that Swedish women deserve rape are liberal feminists. It was extremely inflammatory.

As fond as I am of labels, it is no joke or exaggeration by most any standards to call Magical just plain misogynistic at this point.

You sure she didn't just break some unspoken guideline in the forum rules regarding mental gymnastics?
When I read her reasoning behind why she said they deserved to be raped I felt my IQ drop like 60 points.


Rujikin wrote:

If men have an advantage against women then in comparison women are disadvantaged against men. Therefore you are saying that women are lesser than men. Saying one sex is lesser/greater than another is sexist.

As in the guy you were replying to was trolling.
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In all honesty, one would be pretty hard-pressed to find strippers, men and women, who despise their jobs and don't wish to perform. Many strippers revel in the money and attention they receive. Many are so wrapped up in "sexual objection is bad and is dehumanizing," that they unwittingly try and strip people of basic human behavior and sexuality. Sorry, but humans aren't the epitome of purity, and attempting to force otherwise doesn't work all that well. The whole thing boils down to a "nature versus nurture" debate.
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XxDarkSasuxX wrote:


PeripheralVisionary wrote:

Are we even reading the same posts? It is pretty obvious what they banned her for. It was a strange mix of misogyny and basically claiming people and forumers who were against her the specific idea that Swedish women deserve rape are liberal feminists. It was extremely inflammatory.

As fond as I am of labels, it is no joke or exaggeration by most any standards to call Magical just plain misogynistic at this point.

You sure she didn't just break some unspoken guideline in the forum rules regarding mental gymnastics?
When I read her reasoning behind why she said they deserved to be raped I felt my IQ drop like 60 points.


Rujikin wrote:

If men have an advantage against women then in comparison women are disadvantaged against men. Therefore you are saying that women are lesser than men. Saying one sex is lesser/greater than another is sexist.

As in the guy you were replying to was trolling.


But her topics are far more interesting than most of the shit we were getting last week. I'd rather read her threads than any of the "whats your hair color" or "what age did you lose your sex at" or "Whats your dog's name". At least she was trying to convey unique thought process instead of wasting precious bytes to post nothing in a thread no one will read.

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