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Most evil person who has ever lived?
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In my honest opinion? The government/people who established money and having to buy food (which we all need).
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Bullshit.

The Holodomor killed 7 million, his Gulag camps killed 25 million, and the German POW and citizens he seized and used as slave labor after the war was another 12-25 million.


Correct.

Some estimate the total death toll of the Soviet Union as high as 60 million from 1918 - 1957 .
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Well, the numbers from Stalin's period are pretty much the same with Mao Zedong's period, there's too much misinformation and there is almost no way of learning how many really died. The Holodomor did not kill flat out 7 million. There is a wide estimation between around 2.5 and up to about 6-7 million. Different sources claim different numbers.

Most who went into the gulag did actually come out alive, despite popular belief. Many still died, though, not saying that the gulag was a great place or anything. Under the Stalin era, it was about 2-3 million deaths in the gulags. In the 1940-42 period, there were approx. 15 million living in the gulags. and the total estimation of people passing through the gulags is estimated to have been around 50 million.

I have no idea where get you the German POW death figure from, but the Soviet had at most approx. 2.5 million POWs in captivity. And they were alive. Of those 2.5(more around 2.7), around 400.000 people were killed in captivity. If you include the death of German citizens as well, the deaths increase to approx. 900k - 1 million. The rest were released and repatriated.

One reasoning behind the difference in numbers is that during the cold war, it was very hard to distinguish between ally and enemy state, as the west had just been in a war with Germany, but were now allies, and were allies with Soviet but now they were not. False numbers emerged during this period, because of the lack of access to archives and word of mouth really. It's not like it was the Soviet who published their death tolls, so no one can say for sure the exact number. Around 9-10 million victims of repression and if you include unintentional victims or what you would call "deaths not orchestrated by the regime", the figures may rise up. No one knows by how much, but some estimate between 4-10 million deaths on top of the rest.
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This may sound weird to say but no matter how much I despise Hitler and Stalin I don't think I could call either of them the most evil man who ever lived. Their crimes were based in hate and bigotry. Their crimes weren't about terrorizing of hurting individual people but about eliminating races they saw as flawed from existence. Don't get me wrong, that is evil but I find the most evil man to be John Wayne Gacy.

He murdered and raped what could be 40-50 children (if you believe his claims and even the Police did) by perverting the image of a clown and luring them to their deaths. The asshat even took the cops out to dinner and at the end told him that he loves America and how even a clown can get away with murder. Hitler and Stalin "thought" they were right (they weren't of course) but this guy knew how wrong what he was doing was an gloated and basked in it publicly.
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I don't know.
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neugenx wrote:

This may sound weird to say but no matter how much I despise Hitler and Stalin I don't think I could call either of them the most evil man who ever lived. Their crimes were based in hate and bigotry. Their crimes weren't about terrorizing of hurting individual people but about eliminating races they saw as flawed from existence. Don't get me wrong, that is evil but I find the most evil man to be John Wayne Gacy.

He murdered and raped what could be 40-50 children (if you believe his claims and even the Police did) by perverting the image of a clown and luring them to their deaths. The asshat even took the cops out to dinner and at the end told him that he loves America and how even a clown can get away with murder. Hitler and Stalin "thought" they were right (they weren't of course) but this guy knew how wrong what he was doing was an gloated and basked in it publicly.


I agree. Misguided people who are truly believing they are doing something for the better of the world, even when it's completely false aren't inherently evil. When I hear the word evil I think of someone with a complete and absolute disregard for any type of moral standard whatsoever. Hitler, Stalin, and all the other awful dictators probably had some sort of personal ethics that they believed was right.
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When it comes to this, are you talking about genocide or serial killers? For genocide, Mao, Hitler, Stalin, and others are up there. For serial killers, Luis Alfredo Garavito Cubillo is Argentinian serial killer who confessed and was proven, per Wiki's "List of serial killers by number of victims", to almost 160 deaths. Also, "List of serial killers before 1900" lists a Peter Niers, a German serial killer who confessed to kill 544 people between 1566-81.
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Hitler would definitely rank up there along with Goering. Stalin is a close second and really anyone who abuses women and/or children. I'd have to rank those people up there with the likes of Hitler and Stalin. There's been a lot of very evil people through History. Serial killers usually sit at the tops of most of these lists.

As evil as these people are I can at least understand the fact that some of the serial killers are psychopaths and lack empathy. What I can NEVER wrap my mind around are people who do have feelings, people who have loved one's and children and then go out and abuse other children. Jared from Subway is such an example. There's nothing scarier than seeing a child predator who has children. Those are the evilest people in the world to me.
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Well, this went to an odd place. I'm not even sure where to start with that. It takes a looooong time to finish a game of Sins of the Father ( Or in this case the great great great great great grandfather? ). There's no one responsible still alive and no one that suffered its affects first hand on the other end alive either. So I'm not exactly sure what sort of resolution you want unless you just want to yell about things.

And what am I suppose to do with my mixed blood? Yell at my leg till it feels bad? -.-





I don't know mate, an awful lot of white people out there refusing to go back to Europe. Honestly you'd think they think North America belongs to them or something.

As for Metis like you, I donna flip coin if it makes you feel better.
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I wouldn't accuse an entire race of being evil (Really? Racism much?). You're basically saying that just because somebody is born to a certain person they're evil.
No, if you want to talk evil, you should look at the people who intentionally hurt other human beings (by definition).
So, the first murderer, the instigators of the first and second world wars, racists (black panthers and KKK).
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Because ALL whites are to blame what happened in the past.


Those who profit from the work of thieves, murderers,and rapists aren't a whole lot better then the thieves, murderers, and rapists mate. Every single caucasian in North America is living on stolen land, drinking stolen water, and breathing stolen air. Your malls and cities built on sites once considered sacred by my people . Your pollution and greed is destroying the once beautiful plains, mountains, and forests of this land . Ya can't deny that no matter how much you wish to.


By this logic, every human in existence is guilty of this.
By being born, by simply existing, you are calling me evil. You are calling me a thief. That's racism, and it's wretched. If your people considered this land sacred, they should have done a better job of defending it. I'm not going to deny that my ancestors took your ancestors' land, but that was a long time ago and if you have a beef with every last American because of what happened over a century ago, you should get professional help. You weren't alive in that time so you really have no room to talk.

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By this logic, every human in existence is guilty of this.
By being born, by simply existing, you are calling me evil. You are calling me a thief. That's racism, and it's wretched. If your people considered this land sacred, they should have done a better job of defending it. I'm not going to deny that my ancestors took your ancestors' land, but that was a long time ago and if you have a beef with every last American because of what happened over a century ago, you should get professional help. You weren't alive in that time so you really have no room to talk.



Mate my people died in their hundreds of thousands defending this land . But we were a tribal society using melee weapons and bows against a gunpowder era army with superior training. My people were warriors, hunters, and gatherers not soldiers. Our own philosophies tended to view killing as a sin regardless of why you had to do it.

And it may have been your ancestors that took the land but I don't see you and or any other white person giving it back and going back to your homelands..
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Ranwolf wrote:
I don't know mate, an awful lot of white people out there refusing to go back to Europe. Honestly you'd think they think North America belongs to them or something.

As for Metis like you, I donna flip coin if it makes you feel better.


I really hope you're just farking with us at this point. ;p

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