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So Iv read some arguments for and against this amendment.

The argument for keeping it is really, we can't trust our government won't pull something. Which I can understand, history has repeatably shown governments can and may impose on the people if given a chance.

However the counter argument is that the founding fathers could not have foreseen the technological advances of guns. Which is why people feel so uneasy about everyday normal people owning guns. You shouldn't have to own a gun to feel safe because other people do in short. Which again, makes sense and often spells disaster in some environments in the United States.

So what do you guys think.
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https://youtu.be/CquUBWHU2_s

Since the US government was trying to buy mutlishot weapons at the time they revolted, and told people it was cool to buy cannons.
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descloud wrote:
However the counter argument is that the founding fathers could not have foreseen the technological advances of guns.

Guns haven't gotten much more advanced. Sure they can shoot faster and are more accurate, but not in some crazy unforeseeable way. Are you perhaps thinking of other types of weapons (rockets, planes, tanks, etc)? Those have become advanced in a way the founding fathers could not have foreseen, but normal people can't get them. Only the military and people with super special permits can get their hands on those.
Posted 5/8/16
I think once we ascend to the 4th dimension, weapons will be useless cause we'll all have super powers
Posted 5/8/16 , edited 5/9/16

descloud wrote:

So Iv read some arguments for and against this amendment.

The argument for keeping it is really, we can't trust our government won't pull something. Which I can understand, history has repeatably shown governments can and may impose on the people if given a chance.

However the counter argument is that the founding fathers could not have foreseen the technological advances of guns. Which is why people feel so uneasy about everyday normal people owning guns. You shouldn't have to own a gun to feel safe because other people do in short. Which again, makes sense and often spells disaster in some environments in the United States.

So what do you guys think.


Well, should the 1st amendment apply to the internet if the founding fathers never for saw communications becoming integrated like this?

The idea that the 2nd amendment is outdated is really not even an argument, it's just circular.
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I just like to shoot guns honestly. It's a fun past-time and it's a cool experience. I doubt that everyone having a gun will put a dent in the military's missile strikes anyways. Sure the founding fathers may have implemented the second amendment in case of a government takeover but now I think it serves more as a hobby and protection against burglars. If anything there should be stricter background checks and an increase in funding towards the research of psychological problems that lead to mass murders with guns.
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descloud wrote:
However the counter argument is that the founding fathers could not have foreseen the technological advances of guns.


The founding fathers didn't see the total abolition of state militias, or at least folding them into the National Guard.

(And yeah, we all see where THIS is going...)
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The Constitution should be reevaluated to keep up with the times. That is why a system to Amend the Constitution was put in place (and that is why it doesn't matter what the Forefathers foresaw. They foresaw us changing the Constitution if necessary...). As for whether we should repeal the second Amendment, no of course not, but as is, interpretations get a little confounding due to the fact that we are constitutionally allowed to restrict some weaponry and the line isn't really clear, so I think the language should be cleaned up quite a bit.
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No, that is all!
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Gatling guns were already a thing by the creation of the 2nd amendment a fully automatic gun
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Guns are nearly useless in defending against a hypothetical tyrannical state hellbent on robbing people of power.

This is the age of terrorism and asymmetrical warfare. If you want to fight a government these days there are much more effective weapons that can be made for nearly free, easy to hide, and can kill hundreds of people at once. Guns are sold by the military-industrial complex as a totem for gun fetishists to feel like they have power as they're stuck in dead-end jobs and trapped in eternal debt.
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Repeal the 2nd Amendment? You trying to start a Revolutionary War in America - again?









Posted 5/8/16
No.
The reason guns are a problem is mainly because of gun violence from criminals. Laws only stop honest people. If you banned guns, criminals would still be able to obtain firearms in some way and use them against our now unarmed citizens.
It might be even worse. The 18th amendment to the constitution was the prohibition of alcohol. This didn't cut down on alcohol consumption. It decreased at first but then gradually increased to being consumed almost as much as before prohibition. I guess when you tell people they can't have something it makes them want it even more.
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