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Yep. Not gonna happen.
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I actually think guns are pretty neat, damn the consequences.


At least your honest about it. This whole "We need guns in case the guberment comes fer us" thing hasn't been relevant in quite some time. Lets face it, if the government really wanted to come for you, your second amendment right isn't going to stop you from being picked off by a drone strike in the parking lot of a Piggly Wiggly.

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I always considered Holo too smart and canny a character to be a gullible-patsy Trump-billy, and about all she and Don share in common is their self-centered ego, their god-complexes, and their complete resentment/detachment from any Western Judeo-Christian religion.


You already put more thought into it in this one sentence than the person that created it did. I wouldn't worry about it.

Its baffling, yes. But thats kind of par for the course with the subject in question.



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Yep. Not gonna happen.


yeah i know lol i'm all for them trying to take my guns though
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I think once we ascend to the 4th dimension, weapons will be useless cause we'll all have super powers


Your brain will be your weapon, when it jams, your head pops.
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descloud wrote:

So Iv read some arguments for and against this amendment.

The argument for keeping it is really, we can't trust our government won't pull something. Which I can understand, history has repeatably shown governments can and may impose on the people if given a chance.

However the counter argument is that the founding fathers could not have foreseen the technological advances of guns. Which is why people feel so uneasy about everyday normal people owning guns. You shouldn't have to own a gun to feel safe because other people do in short. Which again, makes sense and often spells disaster in some environments in the United States.

So what do you guys think.


Keep em. Only the weak fear weapons. I cannot control another persons fear and weakness, only the individual can. If you cannot control your fear, then you should seek education and training. Why should I have my rights infringed upon because of someone Else's weakness? As a black man, when they come to get my weapons, I'll probably die. I will not allow my family to be re-enslaved, because a bunch of weak white kids are afraid of the big bad world. You want to feel safe? In this world?


I think it's the ones who need guns to feel protected are the ones with the bigger fear....

But America is long past the enslavement idea. I don't know what era your mind is but it sure isn't modern if you think America wants to enslave people again.
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Don't repeal the 2ndA, make the adjustment that you can own a gun but you have to take a test to show you know what the hell you're doing with it. How many times have we heard stories of someone getting killed with a gun due to negligence or stupidity?


We do this for driving and people still turn out to be terrible drivers.

Good in theory, just not practical.
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descloud wrote:


However the counter argument is that the founding fathers could not have foreseen the technological advances of guns. Which is why people feel so uneasy about everyday normal people owning guns. You shouldn't have to own a gun to feel safe because other people do in short. Which again, makes sense and often spells disaster in some environments in the United States.


This is an incorrect counter argument, because it forgets a basic fact: The Founding Fathers had just won a revolution, in large part due to the fact that the citizens had access to weapons that were the equal, and in certain circumstances (rifles), superior to the weapons used by the British army. The Brown Bess was very much the AK-47 of its day: rugged, reliable and fairly easy to learn how to use.

What our Founding Fathers would be appalled at is how our criminal justice system has deteriorated to the point that lunatics are out on the streets and criminals run wild.

Given that the man who attempted to assassinate President-elect Roosevelt, and who ended up killing the mayor of Chicago, was tried convicted and executed within months of his crime, and with our Founding Fathers coming from a time of justice which was at least as speedy, they'd be wondering what we had done to ourselves, that has been far more destructive than gun ownership.

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descloud wrote:


ran76 wrote:

Don't repeal the 2ndA, make the adjustment that you can own a gun but you have to take a test to show you know what the hell you're doing with it. How many times have we heard stories of someone getting killed with a gun due to negligence or stupidity?


We do this for driving and people still turn out to be terrible drivers.

Good in theory, just not practical.

Inb4 cars weren't made to kill people.

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descloud wrote:


ran76 wrote:

Don't repeal the 2ndA, make the adjustment that you can own a gun but you have to take a test to show you know what the hell you're doing with it. How many times have we heard stories of someone getting killed with a gun due to negligence or stupidity?


We do this for driving and people still turn out to be terrible drivers.

Good in theory, just not practical.

Inb4 cars weren't made to kill people.



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descloud wrote:


Steelmonk wrote:


descloud wrote:

So Iv read some arguments for and against this amendment.

The argument for keeping it is really, we can't trust our government won't pull something. Which I can understand, history has repeatably shown governments can and may impose on the people if given a chance.

However the counter argument is that the founding fathers could not have foreseen the technological advances of guns. Which is why people feel so uneasy about everyday normal people owning guns. You shouldn't have to own a gun to feel safe because other people do in short. Which again, makes sense and often spells disaster in some environments in the United States.

So what do you guys think.


Keep em. Only the weak fear weapons. I cannot control another persons fear and weakness, only the individual can. If you cannot control your fear, then you should seek education and training. Why should I have my rights infringed upon because of someone Else's weakness? As a black man, when they come to get my weapons, I'll probably die. I will not allow my family to be re-enslaved, because a bunch of weak white kids are afraid of the big bad world. You want to feel safe? In this world?


I think it's the ones who need guns to feel protected are the ones with the bigger fear....

But America is long past the enslavement idea. I don't know what era your mind is but it sure isn't modern if you think America wants to enslave people again.


You're a white guy right? I don't need guns, but they are my inalienable right. Damn straight fear keeps me from lowering my guard. I didn't get to be my age by allowing assholes to walk all over me. Modern America. Shit fire your naive. That's right it's all cordial as long as you leave me and mine in peace. That means my firearms. Anything else is a massive civil war.
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Steelmonk wrote:


descloud wrote:


Steelmonk wrote:


descloud wrote:

So Iv read some arguments for and against this amendment.

The argument for keeping it is really, we can't trust our government won't pull something. Which I can understand, history has repeatably shown governments can and may impose on the people if given a chance.

However the counter argument is that the founding fathers could not have foreseen the technological advances of guns. Which is why people feel so uneasy about everyday normal people owning guns. You shouldn't have to own a gun to feel safe because other people do in short. Which again, makes sense and often spells disaster in some environments in the United States.

So what do you guys think.


Keep em. Only the weak fear weapons. I cannot control another persons fear and weakness, only the individual can. If you cannot control your fear, then you should seek education and training. Why should I have my rights infringed upon because of someone Else's weakness? As a black man, when they come to get my weapons, I'll probably die. I will not allow my family to be re-enslaved, because a bunch of weak white kids are afraid of the big bad world. You want to feel safe? In this world?


I think it's the ones who need guns to feel protected are the ones with the bigger fear....

But America is long past the enslavement idea. I don't know what era your mind is but it sure isn't modern if you think America wants to enslave people again.


You're a white guy right? I don't need guns, but they are my inalienable right. Damn straight fear keeps me from lowering my guard. I didn't get to be my age by allowing assholes to walk all over me. Modern America. Shit fire your naive. That's right it's all cordial as long as you leave me and mine in peace. That means my firearms. Anything else is a massive civil war.


If you are going to continue with the straw-man arguments. Then I see no point in discussing anything with you.
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You can't take away people's guns. There's just too many people out there with too many guns. It's not going to happen. Realistically, if you want to control guns, you need to ban the buying and selling of the bullets. And even then, you would only really be creating a black market for bullets.

Remember, guns don't kill people. Bullets kill people.
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descloud wrote:


Steelmonk wrote:


descloud wrote:


Steelmonk wrote:


descloud wrote:

So Iv read some arguments for and against this amendment.

The argument for keeping it is really, we can't trust our government won't pull something. Which I can understand, history has repeatably shown governments can and may impose on the people if given a chance.

However the counter argument is that the founding fathers could not have foreseen the technological advances of guns. Which is why people feel so uneasy about everyday normal people owning guns. You shouldn't have to own a gun to feel safe because other people do in short. Which again, makes sense and often spells disaster in some environments in the United States.

So what do you guys think.


Keep em. Only the weak fear weapons. I cannot control another persons fear and weakness, only the individual can. If you cannot control your fear, then you should seek education and training. Why should I have my rights infringed upon because of someone Else's weakness? As a black man, when they come to get my weapons, I'll probably die. I will not allow my family to be re-enslaved, because a bunch of weak white kids are afraid of the big bad world. You want to feel safe? In this world?


I think it's the ones who need guns to feel protected are the ones with the bigger fear....

But America is long past the enslavement idea. I don't know what era your mind is but it sure isn't modern if you think America wants to enslave people again.


You're a white guy right? I don't need guns, but they are my inalienable right. Damn straight fear keeps me from lowering my guard. I didn't get to be my age by allowing assholes to walk all over me. Modern America. Shit fire your naive. That's right it's all cordial as long as you leave me and mine in peace. That means my firearms. Anything else is a massive civil war.


If you are going to continue with the straw-man arguments. Then I see no point in discussing anything with you.



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Posted 5/9/16
Nope. Not going to happen. I won't vote for it.
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