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what he said !
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His tax policy is he will maybe lower it but maybe not depending on congress.


This is probably a big one. For all his talk about how he'll fix the US I don't think Trump has the political experience necessary to navigate both Congress and the Senate, especially since Democrats and establishment Republicans already hate his guts. Most career politicians have time to build connections among the other sitting members of these institutions, and know how to game the system in their favour. Donald Trump hasn't spent a day as a member of Congress or a Senator. He doesn't have any of this practical knowledge or connections and I suspect that if he does become President than it'll come back to bite in the ass when the popularity contest ends and he realizes he's now playing on the turf of people who neither like him and have been playing the game longer than he has.

Then again, who really knows what will happen. When Trump started running for the nomination most people thought it was just a bad joke. Now he's set to take the Republican nomination and has a very real shot at becoming President.


I'd agree, we all want candidates who are not part of the "system" but they have to get indoctrinated into it before they really can get anything accomplished. I don't think he really understands that he applying to be the chief politician and only has a few defined powers. Taken from Article ll and paraphrased.

l. Be commander in chief of the Army and Navy when called into service.

2. Require the opinion of the principal officer in each executive department.

3. Have power to grand reprieves and pardons.

4. Make treaties.

5. Nominate and appoint ambassadors, judges of the Supreme Court and all other officers of the United States.

6. Fill up all vacancies during the recess of the Senate.

7. Give to Congress information of the state of the union.

8. Recommend to their consideration such measures as he shall judge necessary and expedient.

9. On extraordinary occasions convene both Houses, or either of them.

10. Receive ambassadors and other public ministers.

11. Take care that the laws be faithfully executed.

12. Commission all the officers of the United States.

Even vetoes are Article l, Section 7 allows him to return to Congress, within 10 days, any bills he doesn't approve of, with his objections. It would be interesting to know if he has done this with the bills he has supposedly "vetoed." If he didn't, they automatically become law.

So his main needs are to be a good judge of character for those nominations, be good at talking to other world leaders, be able to read contracts for those treaties, make good judgement in sending troops places. Be honorable in the execution of laws, even the ones they dislike. Because of this I just do not see Mr. Trump as the best choice, he seams far more interested in hosting an entertaining reality tv show than being a leader of people and a skilled diplomat.
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what he said ! MattMiller Premium Member *** CIS's stated goal is to reduce immigration so I'm going to assume any study they publish will support that. Their end notes also cite themselves....a lot. I have a hard time with papers that use themselves as their own experts. Kinda like mcdonalds doing a study about how healthy their food is and citing themselves as a nutritional expert. Just my 2 cent
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I'll agree to change Trump says racist things and instead say Trump employs ad hominem attacks sometimes specifically aimed at a segment of the population or person due to his inability to have a syllogistic discussion. This is frequently reported on by the media which may or may not have a positive view of Mr Trump. I hope that's PC enough, I understand how hard it must be for a supporter of the best candidate to hear negative things about them.

Basically I'd love a Trump supporter to take his ideas and logically lay them out and show why they work and maybe be willing to answer questions people have about them, but all I have ever seen is a Trump supporter call a person a name and say because that person is stupid, his ideas are stupid and Trump is just getting the raw deal from all the losers and haters. Maybe I'm wrong and these are the greatest ideas ever said, but somehow I doubt it.



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The only positive thing I can say about Trump is you see what you get with him. People consider him racist because he says racist things. Look the media doesn't have to make up anything about Trump, he does a great job of letting everyone know how he feels all the time.

Personally I will never vote for Trump due to his lack of understanding on how basic things work like debt and the economy on a macro level. His stated policies sound pretty short sighted if not completely stupid. I'm not saying I agree with Hilary either, but she's not saying we can default on our debt and print money to magically fix the national debt.

Building a wall to keep out illegal immigration is not cost effective, neither is deporting millions of people all of this will cost a lot of money that has to come from somewhere. His tax policy is he will maybe lower it but maybe not depending on congress. His military policy is america is going to have the greatest military, even though we already have the largest most expansive military on earth.

He wants every to believe that america is in the toilet and only he can make it great again. I'd argue that things are pretty darn good other than health care and income gaps, there is always room for improvement but we got it better than most countries. His solution for this is he will fix healthcare and make it the best, and job growth under him will be enormous.

Notice there is not a a lot of details on these statements, cause he offers none. He just uses buzz words. He debates people by calling people names, Jeb bush is low energy, Crooked Hillary, Crazy Sanders, Lying Ted, Megan Kelly the Bimbo, I could go on and on. No substance in any policy, doesn't like media asking about statements he made. Denies knowing people he talked about like David Duke.

Look, I say vote for the turd you like the best because most politicians are turds, just make sure you know what they are about completely. If you like them, take the good with the bad because when you vote for someone you get the whole package.


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This is why Trump needs to be president. All this crap about him being a racist is a complete lie fabricated by the media. He is pro legal immigration, only against illegal immigration. Wake up people!




I read your entire post but I find it really hard to take you seriously after saying that Trump "says racist things". Due to the trade deficit between Mexico and the USA, Mexico will pay for the wall. It will be more benificial to deport the immigrants to came to the country ILLEGALY than to let this issue still go on. I find it frightening how there is such a tolerance for illegal immigrants, they shouldn't even exist in the first Place. They are freeloaders taking advantage of the fact that they are off the grid and don't pay taxes. As for the muslim immigration, I am all for having a TEMPORARY ban until everyone can figure out what the hell is going on, and how to tell between the bad and good. It's just simple logic and common sense. It's funny because most people who hate Trump don't even give a shit about the important issues, they are just a bunch of Leftist SJW's who don't contribute to anything. Spewing nonsense about racism and triggers. They just want to hop aboard the Anti Trump Train because they are scared of how others will view them, attempting to feel accepted by all of the other morons.




I mean, all the points I stated from my last post should make sense to you. It should make you wonder "hmm, maybe Trump really isn't racist and actually does want change." The only negativity that I have provided was in response to others on this site attacking me. I am simply responding to the hostility being directed towards me.


Your open hostility is why people are returning it in kind. You stated you stopped reading my post due to me saying Trump is racist, so I PC'd up my post to be less offensive to you.

But lets attempt a logical discussion based on your points.

1. Mexico is not going to build us a wall, world economics do not work that way. I'm guessing if we started a trade war with them they could find other buyers of their goods. More over I don't see US businesses going along with this, they just make too much profit from making their goods in mexico.

So considering they are free to sell to others and still have a low cost of production how would we deal with this that would be a net positive to the US in a way that still gets this very expensive wall built by them?

2.Its costs money to locate, house, and try illegal immigrants before deportation. Given that we are talking more than 11 million of them and the estimate of those costs are 10k per person where are we going to come up with the 110 billion dollars to deport them?

Followup question would it be cheaper to turn those 11 million people into tax payers? The article in this topic says it costs us 6378 dollars which even if not inflated is half as much as a deportation.

3.Why is banning any religion's immigration a way to fight terrorism? Logically would a perspective terrorist just call themselves something else?

4.If I do not like Trump do I have to be a Social Justice Warrior? I do not really see myself as such, I just disagree with most of MR Trump's idea of what is best for moving the country forward. I think that is good enough reason to not vote for him. Like I said vote for who you like, I ain't going to stop you just don't be a sheep and not research everything about your man.


It would be far cheaper to deport all of the illegal immigrants in the country. Sure it would be expensive to do the process, but the country will bounce back from that loss, due to having no more problems with illegal immigrants who avoid paying taxes, leaving honest hard working civilians jobless. Another thing, the mexican border is the hotspot for drugs pouring in, crime being brought in from the other side. Not to mention the Cartel. This isn't an "I hate Mexico" type thing. Trump is concerned about all of the points I just declared above.

Radical Islam, ISIS, they have Muslim beliefs, ther is no denying that. There is no system in place which allows people to determine who they are bringing in, no way to tell who is radical and who isn't. Sure Trump's request may be harsh, but it is a guarantee with a temporary solution like that in place, it guarantees a drop in probability for some radical getting into the country causing mayhem. Something must be done, the USA can't be made up of a bunch of babies anymore. Then after they can figure out a system, they will allow Muslim immigration to proceed! Trump is not attacking any ethic group, he has no issue with currently residing Muslims, nor legal immigrants.

I wont say anymore than that, I've proven my point feel free to disagree.
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You have this delusion that the way I type mimics a 13 year old. It's only because I support Trump, that is why you believe this. You are taking this opportunity to vent your frustrations on someone (me) who is currently being targeted by multiple people. People like you tend to jump in when the oportunity presents itself, thinking that you are more powerful than what you really are due to being in "the cool group". As for me I am not scared to stand up for what I believe in, despite a flock of sheep trying to bring my views down by spewing nonsense and lies.


Oh no, I didn't say mimic. Mimic would imply you're just pretending. You actually do come across as 13 year old. Its totally genuine. I also have no frustrations to vent here and if I did need to vent about something you're certainly not important enough to rank up on the list of targets. As for the "cool group", hah, seriously? I'm not 13, I don't give a shit about the "cool group" and Christ man, if there is a "cool group" on these forums I'm certainly not part of it. Have you seen my post history? >.>

All I'm doing is pointing out you're blaming others for the fact you did something idiotic. I mean, your political beliefs are likewise idiotic and deserve profound ridicule, but that's a separate matter.

Oh, and seriously dude Trump supporters are the last people in this election that can try and play the victim card. So get down off the post. Its embarrassing and its not helping your "I'm really not 13" case.





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It would be far cheaper to deport all of the illegal immigrants in the country. Sure it would be expensive to do the process, but the country will bounce back from that loss, due to having no more problems with illegal immigrants who avoid paying taxes, leaving honest hard working civilians jobless. Another thing, the mexican border is the hotspot for drugs pouring in, crime being brought in from the other side. Not to mention the Cartel. This isn't an "I hate Mexico" type thing. Trump is concerned about all of the points I just declared above.

Radical Islam, ISIS, they have Muslim beliefs, ther iw no denying that. There is no system in place which allows people to determine who they are bringing in, no way to tell who is radical and who isn't. Sure Trump's request may be harsh, but it is a guarantee with a temporary solution like that in place, it guarantees a drop in probability for some radical getting into the country causing mayhem. Something must be done, the USA can't be made up of a bunch of babies anymore. Then after they can figure out a system, they will allow Muslim immigration to proceed! Trump is not attacking any ethic group, he has no issue with currently residing Muslims, nor legal immigrants.

I wont say anymore than that, I've proven my point feel free to disagree.


Fair enough, I will agree to disagree as I feel that I proved these logically incorrect in sufficient terms to get my point across.
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William6057 wrote:
You have this delusion that the way I type mimics a 13 year old. It's only because I support Trump, that is why you believe this. You are taking this opportunity to vent your frustrations on someone (me) who is currently being targeted by multiple people. People like you tend to jump in when the oportunity presents itself, thinking that you are more powerful than what you really are due to being in "the cool group". As for me I am not scared to stand up for what I believe in, despite a flock of sheep trying to bring my views down by spewing nonsense and lies.


Oh no, I didn't say mimic. Mimic would imply you're just pretending. You actually do come across as 13 year old. Its totally genuine. I also have no frustrations to vent here and if I did need to vent about something you're certainly not important enough to rank up on the list of targets. As for the "cool group", hah, seriously? I'm not 13, I don't give a shit about the "cool group" and Christ man, if there is a "cool group" on these forums I'm certainly not part of it. Have you seen my post history? >.>

All I'm doing is pointing out you're blaming others for the fact you did something idiotic. I mean, your political beliefs are likewise idiotic and deserve profound ridicule, but that's a separate matter.

Oh, and seriously dude Trump supporters are the last people in this election that can try and play the victim card. So get down off the post. Its embarrassing and its not helping your "I'm really not 13" case.







I mean, it can't be a coincidence that you only jumped in while I was dealing with the other sheep of the flock. You have a big ego I might add. You also have no logical explaination as to how I am like a 13 year old. 13 year olds would type in all caps, ignore every point being typed to them and responding in an immature manor. As to which I did not do such thing. You claim to be above me or something which is pretty pathetic, that is what someone with an inflated ego does. Nothing you typed as ever come remotely close to intelligent.

You accuse me of being a creep due to the credentials I used for my profile. Which is meant to be an alias. As far as I can tell, and the type of nonsense you have typed, I am above you in every single way. In fact, you aren't even worth my time, this is the last post I will reply to you because you are just a time waster.

Another sheep who hops on the ANTI Trump Train. No real reason for hating Trump in the first place. I knew most of the Crunchyroll forum dwellers were degenerates, but I never knew it was THIS bad....Goodbye.
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13 year olds would type in all caps, ignore every point being typed to them and responding in an immature manor.


Not to put too fine a point on it, but shouldn't be immature manner?

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William6057 wrote:
13 year olds would type in all caps, ignore every point being typed to them and responding in an immature manor.


Not to put too fine a point on it, but shouldn't be immature manner?



"Responding in an immature manner" is what I said. Are you joining the flock of sheep as well? You are trying to get a rise out of me by pointing out a very small mistake.
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los Angeles got it bad we close to the border

1. 40% of all workers in L.A. County (L.A. County has 10 million people) are working for cash and not paying taxes. This was because they are predominantly illegal immigrants, working without a green card.

2. 95% of warrants for murder in Los Angeles are for illegal aliens.

3. 75% of people on the most wanted list in Los Angeles are illegal aliens.

4. Over 2/3's of all births in Los Angeles County are to illegal alien Mexicans on Medi-Cal whose births were paid for by taxpayers.

5. Nearly 25% of all inmates in California detention centers are Mexican nationals here illegally.

6. Over 300,000 illegal aliens in Los Angeles County are living in garages.

7. The FBI reports half of all gang members in Los Angeles are most likely illegal aliens from south of the border.

8. Nearly 60% of all occupants of HUD properties are illegal.

9. 21 radio stations in L.A. are Spanish speaking.


10. In L.A.County 5.1 million people speak English. 3.9 million speak Spanish (10.2 million people in L.A.County). I may vote trump


"2. 95% of warrants for murder in Los Angeles are for illegal aliens." I'm going need a source on that one

"9. 21 radio stations in L.A. are Spanish speaking. " So?

http://www.snopes.com/politics/immigration/taxes.asp
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I wouldn't mention age. I find it condescending and unreliable. Nor do I think throwing out accusations of lolicon as if there's anything wrong with it or that the person is one is productive. If you're 20 act like it.


If you have working eyes then clearly you must know that I am responding to a false accusation of me being a 13 year old kid.


js, don't put 13 as your age on here then
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William6057 wrote:


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I wouldn't mention age. I find it condescending and unreliable. Nor do I think throwing out accusations of lolicon as if there's anything wrong with it or that the person is one is productive. If you're 20 act like it.


If you have working eyes then clearly you must know that I am responding to a false accusation of me being a 13 year old kid.


js, don't put 13 as your age on here then


No you aren't just "saying", you are joing the flock of sheep. The only time I have ever communicated on Crunchyroll is in threads, I'm not looking to make friends on here, so I can randomly put whatever credentials I want. It's been a year since I've been on here.
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William6057 wrote:


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William6057 wrote:


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I wouldn't mention age. I find it condescending and unreliable. Nor do I think throwing out accusations of lolicon as if there's anything wrong with it or that the person is one is productive. If you're 20 act like it.


If you have working eyes then clearly you must know that I am responding to a false accusation of me being a 13 year old kid.


js, don't put 13 as your age on here then


No you aren't just "saying", you are joing the flock of sheep. The only time I have ever communicated on Crunchyroll is in threads, I'm not looking to make friends on here, so I can randomly put whatever credentials I want. It's been a year since I've been on here.


sheep? excuse you I was trying to help, if it says 13 then at first glance anyone will think you are 13
edit: and if you have only commented on threads and its been a year since then you cant blame someone for not knowing until you state you are 20
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William6057 wrote:


redokami wrote:


William6057 wrote:


PeripheralVisionary wrote:

I wouldn't mention age. I find it condescending and unreliable. Nor do I think throwing out accusations of lolicon as if there's anything wrong with it or that the person is one is productive. If you're 20 act like it.


If you have working eyes then clearly you must know that I am responding to a false accusation of me being a 13 year old kid.


js, don't put 13 as your age on here then


No you aren't just "saying", you are joing the flock of sheep. The only time I have ever communicated on Crunchyroll is in threads, I'm not looking to make friends on here, so I can randomly put whatever credentials I want. It's been a year since I've been on here.


sheep? excuse you I was trying to help, if it says 13 then at first glance anyone will think you are 13
edit: and if you have only commented on threads and its been a year since then you cant blame someone for not knowing until you state you are 20


If you have working eyes, you should use them to their full extent. The only thing I blamed someone in that matter was for accusing me of being a sick twisted creep for having those credentials. Which was infact a false claim. I am not blaming anyone for thinking I am 13, someone else insulted me for being 13 and I simply corrected that person.

It amazes me how much people ignore the small details.
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If you have working eyes, you should use them to their full extent. The only thing I blamed someone in that matter was for accusing me of being a sick twisted creep for having those credentials. Which was infact a false claim. I am not blaming anyone for thinking I am 13, someone else insulted me for being 13 and I simply corrected that person.

It amazes me how much people ignore the small details.


You immediately called the person who said you were 13 a degenerate and insulted the CR community as a whole. Don't act holier than thou when you were the one who threw the first stone.

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