Do you think it's absurd that there are sound effects in space?
Posted 5/12/16 , edited 5/12/16
A lot of anime involving a space setting still have several sound effects in space, when we all know by now that is a common mistake in any sort of science fiction story, because in space you can't hear sounds.

Not in the spaceship, because there are air particles, so sound waves can travel, but in the vacuum of space, they have those laser beam sound effects and exploding sound effects, which is bizarre.
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From a realistic standpoint yeah kinda, but from a cinematic standpoint scenes taking place in the void would become really boring without those sounds.
Posted 5/12/16
Same with Star Wars
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Posted 5/12/16 , edited 5/17/16

LaughedAtByTheGods wrote:

A lot of anime involving a space setting still have several sound effects in space, when we all know by now that is a common mistake in any sort of science fiction story, because in space you can't hear sounds.

Not in the spaceship, because there are air particles, so sound waves can travel, but in the vacuum of space, they have those laser beam sound effects and exploding sound effects, which is bizarre.


Sound is vibration. The noises we hear aren't traveling through space, they're the noises the people on the ships hear. An exploding spaceship still vibrates.
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You lot have clearly have never played Sonic before.
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jtjumper wrote:


LaughedAtByTheGods wrote:

A lot of anime involving a space setting still have several sound effects in space, when we all know by now that is a common mistake in any sort of science fiction story, because in space you can't hear sounds.

Not in the spaceship, because there are air particles, so sound waves can travel, but in the vacuum of space, they have those laser beam sound effects and exploding sound effects, which is bizarre.


Sound is vibration. The noises we hear aren't traveling through space, they're the noises the people on the ships hear. An exploding spaceship still vibrates.


Even if it's from the point of view of someone on a ship, they shouldn't be hearing an "explosion" sound from an external ship exploding, the most they'll hear is objects vibrating on their own ship.

Even if they attach a huge microphone outside of their ship, they will still hear nothing, because there is literally nothing for sound waves to travel through from the exploding source.
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LaughedAtByTheGods wrote:


jtjumper wrote:


LaughedAtByTheGods wrote:

A lot of anime involving a space setting still have several sound effects in space, when we all know by now that is a common mistake in any sort of science fiction story, because in space you can't hear sounds.

Not in the spaceship, because there are air particles, so sound waves can travel, but in the vacuum of space, they have those laser beam sound effects and exploding sound effects, which is bizarre.


Sound is vibration. The noises we hear aren't traveling through space, they're the noises the people on the ships hear. An exploding spaceship still vibrates.


Even if it's from the point of view of someone on a ship, they shouldn't be hearing an "explosion" sound from an external ship exploding, the most they'll hear is objects vibrating on their own ship.

Even if they attach a huge microphone outside of their ship, they will still hear nothing, because there is literally nothing for sound waves to travel through from the exploding source.


I'm talking about from the perspective of the exploding ship.
Posted 5/12/16 , edited 5/12/16

jtjumper wrote:


LaughedAtByTheGods wrote:


jtjumper wrote:


LaughedAtByTheGods wrote:

A lot of anime involving a space setting still have several sound effects in space, when we all know by now that is a common mistake in any sort of science fiction story, because in space you can't hear sounds.

Not in the spaceship, because there are air particles, so sound waves can travel, but in the vacuum of space, they have those laser beam sound effects and exploding sound effects, which is bizarre.


Sound is vibration. The noises we hear aren't traveling through space, they're the noises the people on the ships hear. An exploding spaceship still vibrates.


Even if it's from the point of view of someone on a ship, they shouldn't be hearing an "explosion" sound from an external ship exploding, the most they'll hear is objects vibrating on their own ship.

Even if they attach a huge microphone outside of their ship, they will still hear nothing, because there is literally nothing for sound waves to travel through from the exploding source.


I'm talking about from the perspective of the exploding ship.


The same concept applies. When we're talking about sound, we're talking about waves that need a medium to travel to, and the human ears which receive those waves and translate it into information. Even at the point of view of an exploding ship, the human in the exploding ship in space still can't hear anything.
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Posted 5/12/16
So,2001: A Space Odyssey did it right by going full silence in all of it's outer space scenes?
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Posted 5/12/16 , edited 5/12/16

LaughedAtByTheGods wrote:


jtjumper wrote:


I'm talking about from the perspective of the exploding ship.


The same concept applies. When we're talking about sound, we're talking about waves that need a medium to travel to, and the human ears which receive those waves and translate it into information. Even at the point of view of an exploding ship, the human in the exploding ship in space still can't hear anything.



The exploding ship is the medium. If I was in an exploding ship, part of the explosion would be in the ship, so I would hear it (with the medium being the ship and the air itself). The ship might be in space, but the human is not and can certainly hear shipboard noises.
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Yes, considering the fact that the universe lacks enough oxygen for sound to be heard.
Posted 5/13/16

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So,2001: A Space Odyssey did it right by going full silence in all of it's outer space scenes?


Yes. If you make a scene in space, then it should be full silent, not even a sound of a moving comet or the sound of air passing by, it's totally bizarre to have a "whoosh" sound in space (see Space Battheship Yamato).
Besides the narrator's voice, there shouldn't be any sound, honestly.

I think when someone in the audience is aware of a certain knowledge, it disrupts their enjoyment. It's like someone with music knowledge listening to a symphony and someone plays one wrong note, to people without music knowledge, there wouldn't be a difference, but to that person, it makes all the difference.
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Posted 5/13/16 , edited 5/13/16
No. Creative license. Most people don't make a big deal about it. If we're going to play the "satisfy viewers who don't like it" card, I point out the hypocrisy of neglecting viewers who dislike quiet. It's a lose-lose situation.
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Posted 5/13/16
If it is a scene within or around the ship then I get it. But if my 11 year old son catches a film with sound effects out in actual space then it begins haha. He has a meltdown about how sound is created by vibration and in order to have sound there must be an atmosphere so that the vibration is returned, or else there is nothing to hear. It is hilarious when he flips out in front of our friends and they are like, "How does he know all of this?!". I just laugh. The kid lives off of documentaries, science books, and hands on experiments. I am afraid he will never truly enjoy works of fiction
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