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I don't care as long as he's happy. It seems to me like one of his main issues is attention. He should really go talk to someone and seek some professional help. Not because of his transition or anything like that, I could care less about that but because it seems like maybe there's some deep personal reasons for him wanting so much attention and talking to someone could help.
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This thread... Humans make me sick.
while humans discover the cure of such a curse.

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Poor rich man got bored with being a woman. Pff
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Freddy96NO wrote:


Nalaniel wrote:
This thread... Humans make me sick.
while humans discover the cure of such a curse.



Full sex changes!
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Unless it's coming from the person's actual mouth, take this rumor with a grain of salt. It's literally hearsay at best, and this is coming from a guy who is anti-kardashian and believes that Jenner should not be the spokesperson for trans people. Don't give in to this tabloid gossip bs.
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I'm going to be the unpopular opinion here, but if this is true (after reading some posts it isn't likely) then it's exactly the reason T should be dropped from LGBT. for one it's gender dysmorphia, and this could be, again not likely true, proof that these people are confused and don't know what they want. anyone who is serious about modifying their body in such a way is mentally ill
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Disorders of sex development occur in 1-2% of births. Genital surgeries are significantly enough performed. I find it amusing people think sex is simply binary for all people. It's not. It can be ambiguous to doctors who reassign infants who later cannot describe why they don't fit their gender.

"For instance, the most common cause for a DSD is congenital adrenal hyperplasia — which can result in ambiguous genitalia for XX children. Between 90% and 95% of people with the condition identify as female.

When asked about children with this disorder who ultimately do not identify as female, another paediatric urologist — who wished not to be named — argues that the process can be reversed. People have sex-change surgery as adults all the time, he says."


Source: http://www.nature.com/news/the-spectrum-of-sex-development-eric-vilain-and-the-intersex-controversy-1.19873

It's not simply 'mental'. It has been genetically linked in a number of ways. It is often tied to biology and hormones.

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Rumor mongering aside, it wouldn't surprise me if she felt at least a little self doubt. That's a huge and traumatic change to go through, in addition to the massive social pressures of being out so publically.
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qwueri wrote:
Rumor mongering aside, it wouldn't surprise me if she felt at least a little self doubt. That's a huge and traumatic change to go through, in addition to the massive social pressures of being out so publically.


Seeing as she is an absolutely diehard Republican despite being a transwoman I don't think self doubt factors into her personality much.
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omlettespammer wrote:

I'm going to be the unpopular opinion here, but if this is true (after reading some posts it isn't likely) then it's exactly the reason T should be dropped from LGBT. for one it's gender dysmorphia, and this could be, again not likely true, proof that these people are confused and don't know what they want. anyone who is serious about modifying their body in such a way is mentally ill


We have to consider the context in order to understand why this isn't the case.

Caitlyn Jenner, while she was going by Bruce, invested heavily in building a career as an Olympian, a reputation as a staunch conservative, and a role as a father, son, and head of a household in order to be successful and accepted. She struggled deeply with her identity for decades, flickering back and forth between trying to embrace it and trying to resist it in order to salvage the familial and professional relationships she'd made for herself. She comes from a time where transgender people were an inappropriate topic for polite conversation entirely and faced an even more intensely negative perception than in present day. The 1960s and 1970s were not a good time to be a transgender person, and Jenner's relationships suffered accordingly when she didn't conform while her attempts at conformity were accordingly rewarded.

Jenner is now once again walking the tightrope of trying to simultaneously maintain what she's spent a lifetime building and realising her identity, and she's giving indications that she wasn't fully prepared for the challenges she'd face and sacrifices she'd have to make during a transition. She seems to be struggling to come to grips with the fact that the Republican Party (and particularly Ted Cruz) strongly opposes transgender advocacy, she clearly doesn't fully understand the challenges that openly transgender people generally face (though she is showing at least some desire and willingness to learn even if her past makes her a slow learner), she seems afraid to let go of her role as a father and a son because of past struggles in her marriages that the OP article alludes to, Jenner was going to be a tough case no matter what.

If Jenner were to want to pull a 180 and blast back to where she started full throttle (something she has strongly denied) this would collectively be why. It's not that the medical professionals' recommendations don't work, it's that this particular patient was poorly prepared and has a lot of emotional baggage that is making the transition process particularly challenging. Add in that her transition is taking place before a cable television audience, and therefore every misstep, every moment of doubt, every slip of the tongue is documented and captured by the collective social eye, and that difficulty increases immeasurably.


qwueri wrote:

Rumor mongering aside, it wouldn't surprise me if she felt at least a little self doubt. That's a huge and traumatic change to go through, in addition to the massive social pressures of being out so publically.


I think you've hit the nail on the head if there's anything at all.
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“One source confirmed to me Caitlyn has made whispers of ‘sex change regret,’ hinting she might go back to being Bruce Jenner,” Halperin said.


He's always been Bruce Jenner, dude, and no amount of wishful thinking is going to change that.





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Hopefully Bruce's bravery at admitting his mistake will be an example helping others as well.


He caused others to go through self mutilation. He's not helping anyone at this point besides himself. I just hope others aren't as stupid as him.
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While this happens sometimes, a lot of times this isn't the case. A lot of times Trans people are much happier after they transition. And from what I understand, Trans people don't choose to be like they are. Maybe some might be confused, like Jenner, but by and large, trans people are the way they are due to physiological reasons, including biochemistry and chemicals in the brain, and I'm sure other factors in the brain (for example, for some psychiatric disorders, people have irregularities with the chemicals in their brain, as well as other anomalies, such as different composition of certain parts of their brains).


But that is the thing for people who don't understand trans people well. They have biological factors that make them the way they are. A lot of people think it is something like they just want to be the opposite sex "on a whim" or that they are just some twisted perverts or something, but that isn't the case with these people.
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Damn it Judar, we almost had it off page 1.


What off?





The thread off of page 1 of General Discussion. I was hoping this would die out so I wouldn't hear Maxgale's imminent rebuttal.





I already commented on page 1 tho.
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