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I don't watch a lot of animes, but recently I've been getting more and more deja-vus and a sense that everybody is just trying to copy off the latest hit in every way possible. Most of these shows are not that good, there are still good ones though, but I feel like even the good ones are bogged down by how much they resemble something else.
Or maybe it's just because I recently watched Guren Laggan and Kill la Kill, some of the most original shows ever?

So I just watched that show with the zombies, iron fortress or something like that. What can I say? Should I start with a summary of the plot?

In an alternate fantasy world, a type of humanoid monster roam the entire world, these monsters want only one thing and that is to eat humans. They are extremely tough and difficult to kill because they are invulnerable everywhere except for one weakness, which can be exploited by the most skilled human fighters, but not anyone else. Human survivors in this world have gathered up and live in a highly fortified city, surrounded by huge walls. They use some semi-realistic technology resembling real technology from the 19th century, but are secretly buffed up to super natural levels by the plot so things can be more cool. Normal soldiers combat these monsters with weapons powered by said technology, which require a power device attached to the back of their waists. The protagonist is a dude who's lost their parents to the monsters and wants to have revenge. He is accompanied by a quiet girl incredibly skilled in combat, and a best-friend who isn't, but is incredibly loyal to him. The protagonist although not very skilled, has a special gift that enables him to be incredibly powerful against the monsters, because the protagonist is actually half-monster half human. However this also creates drama in that people are afraid that he might be with the monsters and so will try to kill him, which calls for his friends to help him out in convincing the humans to cooperate. In the beginning of the show, when everything seems normal, although grim for the humans, an incident happens and the defensive wall is breached by the monsters, which starts off the story. Can our protagonist survive the chaos caused by the incident, join the humans and fight the monsters? Or will the humans fear his unique power as a half-monster and alienate him as a result?

So yea I thought the first two episodes were pretty exciting with people being eaten and shit. The female lead is quite sexy even though she wears mostly the same kind of battle uniform/armor as many others. The gas based technology is exaggerated from being impractical in real life to being effective in the anime, but somewhat grounded in reality. For example how they're able to wind the wires with a gas turbine..... oh wait, which show was I talking about? No I mean, the steam powered guns, yes that. The Mythbusters have shown how futile it is to shoot guns with steam in real life, but at least it fits the "steampunk" theme hey?

Come on! Could this show possibly have been more similar to Attack on Titan? I noticed how the settings were similar but when I got to the point where the protagonist was able to somehow stop the virus by choking himself, and became a half-monster I was like. Really? Couldn't this protagonist just be good at making guns? Why does he have to do that cliche half-enemy daywalker bitten-while-pragnate half-breed shit? So that we can have the same kind of drama as in Attack on Titan? I'm gonna keep watching and see what happens, it could still be good. But please! Why can't show stop copying off of each other?

Look at the steam gun concept here, why couldn't it have been regular guns? Why did have to be steam powered? So that the characters can have a boiler on their back like in Attack on Titan? They obviously have all the ingredients of gun powder in this world so why don't they use normal guns? What do they even use as fuel for their boilers? At first I thought it was so that they can have semi-automatic fire. But that doesn't really work because early firearms had low fire rate because they were front-loaders. As soon as we had breach loading the fire rate increased very quickly. In the show they don't load their projectiles from the front, they already have breach loading, so fire rate would be a non-issue. All they need to do is replace the projectiles with cartridges. A revolver/multi barrel design is just infinitely more simple and reliable than some kind of ultra-high pressure steam system. The ONLY reason to have all this that I can think of, is so that it could be like Attack on Titan.
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It's like Attack on Titan....but with Japanese people!
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Personally, I think the more anime you watch the more you will feel deja-vu. It's the same way with reading, if you read enough books in any specific genre, you're going to start noticing trends and similarities. If you read enough across genre's you'll find the same thing - similar situations, similar characters, etc. Some anime makes fun of this and exploits the similarities with parodies of other anime, Excel Saga and Magical Shopping Arcade Abenobashi come to mind.

Part of this is due to authors who want to make money writing series using formulas to create their plots. Harlequin romance novels are a prime example of formula series where the plot is almost identical but the characters, location, and time may change. It doesn't matter if you pick a harlequin about pirates or Navy Seals, the Civil War or WWII you know that the heroine is going to meet someone, and eventually fall in lust with that someone.

Even when authors are not using formulas, it is entirely possible for two authors in different places or at different times to come up with similar story lines even when they are unaware of the other's work. An example of this would be the Hunger Games and Battle Royale. If you really want to stretch this you'll add The Running Man, Death Race 2000, and several others about dystopian societies where an equivalent of the Roman Circus is used to placate the masses.

Some researchers believe there are only 7 basic plots that all literature uses. If you look up literary conflict there are a limited number of those as well (man vs man, man vs nature, man vs self, man vs society, man vs supernatural or god, man vs machine).
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i kinda agree with them all being similar but some animes make a turn on it e.g.- konosuba did the whole death by car scene but it was actually a tractor witch was quite funny
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Well Kabaneri and Attack on Titan were made by Wit studio (Though Production I.G also worked on AoT). Only thing is Kabaneri is an original for the studio while AoT is based off the manga.. At most is seems like Wit just really likes Post Apocalyptic stories. You could argue that Gurren Lagann and Kill La Kill are unoriginal because of the Hero's Journey (The Monomyth). You could also argue that every story has been done before, so nothing new and original can be done.
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There is no more originality
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Ctonhunter wrote:

Well Kabaneri and Attack on Titan were made by Wit studio (Though Production I.G also worked on AoT). Only thing is Kabaneri is an original for the studio while AoT is based off the manga.. At most is seems like Wit just really likes Post Apocalyptic stories. You could argue that Gurren Lagann and Kill La Kill are unoriginal because of the Hero's Journey (The Monomyth). You could also argue that every story has been done before, so nothing new and original can be done.


Gurren lagann was based on the getter robo series. The whole fighting spirit = power was called getters in that and it could restore broken parts or merge machines together.

Kill LA Kill seemed original though. Fashion = fascism. That's a pretty odd combination that was made to work well.
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It's just you.
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I dunno, i think no
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The same reason why there's so many superhero movies or crime shows:

if something's a smash hit that makes money, then expect to see about a million copies of it.
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I sort of feel the same, and I wasn't sure if it was because I was just growing out of certain types of anime. I used to watch a variety of types and genres, but over the past few years I've become very picky about anime altogether. There's not as many shows that interest me anymore, and they do feel a bit similar in that kind of dull sense. That being said, I am completely okay with shows having similarities, if they manage to re-envision them in new, innovative ways.
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Nope. Tropes have always been there and always will be.

Welcome to what happens after you've watched a few titles.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/GenreTropes
Posted 5/26/16
The more things there are the more likely you're going to have stuff that are similar.
Originality is dead.
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All stories have been written at some point in all genre, I suppose its why I have to take breaks lest it seems like the same exact show.

Animation now a days and breaking any type of trope is the only way i'll really stay tuned for new anime
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FYI, I've moved this to the Anime forum.


Razor_Girl wrote:

Personally, I think the more anime you watch the more you will feel deja-vu.


This.

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