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Post Reply Grades don't matter so make connections
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I think both matter to a certain degree. Grades can dictate what you get to do for further studies in college/university, and also act as a vague benchmark for employers to gauge how knowledgable you are in certain areas. However, connections are also important and can make slipping into a spot far easier. For example, my dad owns his own business; he's made it clear he doesn't want to hire anyone to help him due to trust issues and affordability, but if I wanted it he'd still train me to run his business and then eventually pass it on to me. That's not because of grades, it's because he's my dad and he trusts me. Sometimes grades will matter more, sometimes connections will, sometimes both will come together. There isn't really a 'one size fits all' solution.
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I agree but unless you want that higher pay grade I suggest working on the grades to get that degree too.
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Why do you think it has to be either, or? This is just as bad as the thread that was arguing that smart people have it easier, heavily implying that no hard work is needed. It's a mix of things. I think you all have heard of references that you need to start a job. In some cases this related to direct connections in other cases you supply one from someone who knows you and can vouch for your reliability,work ethic and trustworthiness. It is almost if not impossible to get a job regardless of qualifications without this. You need your grades and connections. That's why its self sabotage to always be on bad terms with all of your teachers/tutors, communities, families and whatever work experiences you've had the opportunity to try but messed up or neglected to try.
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depends on the job you want.

Ive typically seen connections matter more than your grades. connections and charisma go a long ways.
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tkayt wrote:

Why do you think it has to be either, or? This is just as bad as the thread that was arguing that smart people have it easier, heavily implying that no hard work is needed. It's a mix of things. I think you all have heard of references that you need to start a job. In some cases this related to direct connections in other cases you supply one from someone who knows you and can vouch for your reliability,work ethic and trustworthiness. It is almost if not impossible to get a job regardless of qualifications without this. You need your grades and connections. That's why its self sabotage to always be on bad terms with all of your teachers/tutors, communities, families and whatever work experiences you've had the opportunity to try but messed up or neglected to try.
people are answering which matters more in their work circumstance.

I don't think they really believe they are are both mutually exclusive: in order to get good grades you need to be anti social...in order to network you need to drop out of school
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I don't think passing anything that isn't in the line of what you would work with is beneficial to look at.

But you do need to know some few things and atleast be not totally out of it.
Like passing this so you need a..decent grade (but people can have issues reading, writing, personal or with themselfs)
While being able to do a decent or good job inside some fields and where connections or having some work there before (exp, knowledge, "friendship"? and so on)

So to people that don't know you would like some evidence for how good or if you have some exp in that field, where graduating or have a similar job works out for you!
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Yes.
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BoobiesSprinkle wrote:

Grades, GPA, diploma, and student record is matter when you looking for a job, because no one want to hire a slack off person that will not put any effort onto that job. Remember when you apply for the job, you are their idea product to sell to the consumers.


Jobs do not ask for GPAs or look at your grades. In fact, a degree is much less valuable than experience. EXPERIENCE, they actually look into. References they will check. VERY few jobs will ever ask or attempt to discover how well you did in school, and only care that you have the paper.

I have no idea where these kids are getting this idea that jobs give any fucks about your grades. lol

Back to experience. Experience matters. Usually you have to start in entry level positions to get experience to move up....even WITH a degree. Now, it is easier to get those higher positions early if you have connections. Or simply move up the ladder faster. Generally, though, a degree only allows you to progress farther with promotions faster. You STILL have to start at entry level. AND you still need skills that are valued in your desired career.

Problems occur when students think they should be in a 100K+ per year position one month after graduation and/or have a degree in something with little to no practical value.

BUT, to answer OP...yes CONNECTIONS>GRADES. VERY few employers care about grades. If you need to maintain a certain GPA for scholarships, etc, by all means make that happen. If you simply think that getting an A in every course will land you a better job....you're better off getting borderline passing grades because you are working an entry position in your desired field while you attend college.

Truth.

Cheers.
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