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Posted 5/28/16 , edited 6/2/16

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Incest is illegal for a reason.

Which is funny because it is illegal for the same reason that smoking and alcohol are not recommended during pregnancy. Those aren't prohibited. It's especially interesting because, to my knowledge at least, both of which were causing more problems before incest was illegalized a century ago. And both of which cause a higher percent chance or birth deficiency than incest.

It's illegal because "the man" (I detest that phrase) doesn't like it.


Sodomy laws are ridiculous. I could care less what two consenting adults do.

I agree. This is strictly law in certain places because certain religions renounce the practice.

There were other things I agreed with or disagreed with but had a more nuanced opinion for/against. Out of time, though.
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oh yes I have a remote controlled bedroom like anyone else...
"Hey gov... put me to sleep!!"

PS. They control anything we do!!
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I typically draw the line at bestiality and underage people. What about you?


I'd agree with this.

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PeripheralVisionary wrote:


NotACheesecake wrote:

Creating these laws is both a way to stop the reproduction of these types of people and to stop them getting into anything weirder, i.e. going from raping your neighbours dog to raping the local school kids.


So gay sex leads to bestiality? Please clarify your position.


People will keep testing the boundaries in which they can pass, they will keep getting into more extreme stuff, i.e. people who start smoking weed might then go onto a stronger drug. Although the government should have an extent to which they shouldn't have control over. These should be things that are deemed racist or homophobic.


"You can't condem people on what they might do" A line that has got me rethinking a lot of my original beliefs. I used to have your same line of thinking. Still do in some circumstances, but I learned that even if the logic is sound sometimes life can go in a completely unforeseen direction.
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Anything that is without consent which results in harm or abuse.

Minors cannot give consent. The reason for this is because Law regonises that they can easily be taken advantage and influenced by an adult. To protect minors, law made it illegal for an adult to engage in sexual activity with underage person. This is also most likely why agreements with minors are not binding

Incest often occurs as a form of child abuse in young children, for example child on child sexual abuse resulting from neglect. Or, child abuse inflicted by an older family member. For this reason and the one above, it's non consensual and considered abuse

Animals can't give consent, they are animals....


This seems unnecessarily overreaching because child abuse is already illegal. True, parents do exert a lot of control over their kids....
im covering the points of this thread, no?

Anyways, I'm sure Bestiality is illegal as well
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NotACheesecake wrote:

People will keep testing the boundaries in which they can pass, they will keep getting into more extreme stuff, i.e. people who start smoking weed might then go onto a stronger drug. Although the government should have an extent to which they shouldn't have control over. These should be things that are deemed racist or homophobic.


"People who start drinking alcohol might go onto a stronger drug".

Can you explain how this reworked line can't be transposed to your logic? I'm genuinely trying to follow your thoughts, but thinking about all the issues of alcoholism, I'm admittedly lost here.


"People who start drinking alcohol might go onto a stronger drug".
More like: People who start drinking cider might go on to vodka in time.
Or: People who smoke cannabis might try a stronger drug.
The reason that reworked line can't be transposed is because of social stigma surrounding drugs, and lack of social stigma surrounding alcohol. However it's unlikely someone fucking a dog cares much about social stigma.
Boundaries will always be pushed, as people just want to know where they do and do not stand.
Plus incest is illegal because it gives your children genetic deformation, which is cruelty, the other noted "bedroom laws" are because of consent.
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jaykirbydudee wrote:

I draw the line on anything non consentual (probably misspelled that), and anyone underage. Animals can't really give consent so they're out of the picture as well. Otherwise you can do whatever you want in the bed with your loved one.


what if the dog rapes you....does it get put in prison?


It gets sent to the pound to get euthanized.
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The gateway argument will always struggle with causation. Does the individual who goes from Marijuana to Cocaine do so because they smoked weed or because they are simply more likely to be the type of person who would use Cocaine (aka more impulsive, risk taking, and a moral compass which doesn't focus as much on legality)?

Anyways, consent is always the line for me.
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rabbitofcaerbannog wrote:


Ryulightorb wrote:


jaykirbydudee wrote:

I draw the line on anything non consentual (probably misspelled that), and anyone underage. Animals can't really give consent so they're out of the picture as well. Otherwise you can do whatever you want in the bed with your loved one.


what if the dog rapes you....does it get put in prison?


It gets sent to the pound to get euthanized.


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Does the government even care what you are doing in your own bed?
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Jackalope82 wrote:
Does the government even care what you are doing in your own bed?


Guessing you're not American? -.-

Some state governments are fucking obsessed with what you do in your own bed, what you do in bathrooms, what you do with your vagina, etc etc. Its practically all some US politicians think about.

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Oh, I'm American. They like to throw laws around that they can't enforce. A simple finger poke could lead to a sexual assault case.
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PeripheralVisionary wrote:

Sodomy laws, Incest Laws. Bestiality Laws. Statutory rape. There are many laws regarding sexual practices. Where do you draw the line?


I typically draw the line at bestiality and underage people. What about you?


I'm in favor of a government where the people consent to having sexual behavior regulated in need to form a better society. In other words, if the action of regulation is good for society.
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sundin13 wrote:

The gateway argument will always struggle with causation. Does the individual who goes from Marijuana to Cocaine do so because they smoked weed or because they are simply more likely to be the type of person who would use Cocaine (aka more impulsive, risk taking, and a moral compass which doesn't focus as much on legality)?

Anyways, consent is always the line for me.


It's not that marijuana is a gateway drug, the problem is Nihilism.
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WeeabooWarrior wrote:


sundin13 wrote:

The gateway argument will always struggle with causation. Does the individual who goes from Marijuana to Cocaine do so because they smoked weed or because they are simply more likely to be the type of person who would use Cocaine (aka more impulsive, risk taking, and a moral compass which doesn't focus as much on legality)?

Anyways, consent is always the line for me.


It's not that marijuana is a gateway drug, the problem is Nihilism.


Nothing has meaning
∴ 420 blaze it

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