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What if Marcus Octavius join in? Marcus Octavius can take on Trump easily! After all he have many years of experiences in Politics!


I'd sooner have Tiberius Gracchus if I'm to choose between ancient Roman tribunes of that time.
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One simple question I haven't seen asked this election that seems like the most important one we should be asking...

"Which candidate is most likely to start World War 3?"

I know my answer. The candidate who so far has pissed off the leaders of quite a few nations.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/01/28/upshot/donald-trump-twitter-insults.html?_r=0
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/01/29/holy-sh-t-the-world-really-hates-donald-trump.html
http://www.politicususa.com/2016/03/08/foreign-diplomats-trump-represents-threat-peace-prosperity.html

What I find funniest is how he flagrantly attacks his own party while running as their candidate.

Why would you want to learn to speak like someone no one trusts, respects or believes?

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I know my answer. The candidate who so far has pissed off the leaders of quite a few nations.


Trump's existence as an actual presidential candidate is legitimately surreal and horrifying to the rest of us, yes.

The very fact he's even a nominee has already done considerable damage to America's international reputation. If he's actually elected, America will be regulated to the kid's table at every international political event for the foreseeable future.

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neugenx wrote:

One simple question I haven't seen asked this election that seems like the most important one we should be asking...

"Which candidate is most likely to start World War 3?"

I know my answer. The candidate who so far has pissed off the leaders of quite a few nations.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/01/28/upshot/donald-trump-twitter-insults.html?_r=0
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/01/29/holy-sh-t-the-world-really-hates-donald-trump.html
http://www.politicususa.com/2016/03/08/foreign-diplomats-trump-represents-threat-peace-prosperity.html

What I find funniest is how he flagrantly attacks his own party while running as their candidate.

Why would you want to learn to speak like someone no one trusts, respects or believes?



Luckily in the realm of reality, starting a World War depends on a lot more than one person, and is effectively impossible with major world powers having nuclear weapons.
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neugenx wrote:
I know my answer. The candidate who so far has pissed off the leaders of quite a few nations.


Trump's existence as an actual presidential candidate is legitimately surreal and horrifying to the rest of us, yes.

The very fact he's even a nominee has already done considerable damage to America's international reputation. If he's actually elected, America will be regulated to the kid's table at every international political event for the foreseeable future.



If he does win, then I seriously don't blame the rest of the world for wanting to stay the fuck away from us. Including our own allies.
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JanusCascade wrote:

What if Marcus Octavius join in? Marcus Octavius can take on Trump easily! After all he have many years of experiences in Politics!


I'd sooner have Tiberius Gracchus if I'm to choose between ancient Roman tribunes of that time.




Tiberius Gracchus.. Ahh, never thought I'll say his name again! What he did was worse things ever happen to Rome, He cause civil wars and reason for the fall of the Roman Republic! I should have him killed when I had a chance before he ruin my beloved Rome! Of course I did kill him too late! He isn't a Roman, he is just like Barbarian..All they do is whine and whine and whine!

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neugenx wrote:

One simple question I haven't seen asked this election that seems like the most important one we should be asking...

"Which candidate is most likely to start World War 3?"

I know my answer. The candidate who so far has pissed off the leaders of quite a few nations.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/01/28/upshot/donald-trump-twitter-insults.html?_r=0
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/01/29/holy-sh-t-the-world-really-hates-donald-trump.html
http://www.politicususa.com/2016/03/08/foreign-diplomats-trump-represents-threat-peace-prosperity.html

What I find funniest is how he flagrantly attacks his own party while running as their candidate.

Why would you want to learn to speak like someone no one trusts, respects or believes?



Luckily in the realm of reality, starting a World War depends on a lot more than one person, and is effectively impossible with major world powers having nuclear weapons.


Actually, the first rumbles of a World War start when diplomacy breaks down between nations...

http://www.historyhome.co.uk/europe/causeww1.htm
http://www.threeworldwars.com/world-war-2/ww2.htm

All it takes are seeds of dissension and a mistrust among nations for things to escalate. We've seen what one man can do to start a riot of bigotry against a judge who is benching his fraud case (Trump University) despite the fact the guy was born in Chicago. It's no surprise Ivana announced he had a book of Hitler's speaking tactics by their bed and lied about it's contents and title (it's title: "My New Order").

http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trumps-ex-wife-once-said-he-kept-a-book-of-hitlers-speeches-by-his-bed-2015-8

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Runec: That's exactly what I mean.
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Trump will beat Hillary in a landslide. If I had the money to bet on this, I would put all of my money on Trump being the next president. Not because I like him, and certainly not because I support him. I hate everything Trump stands for. But he will win. Save a link to this post, and when Trump wins in November. Come back and tell me how right I was.



What if Marcus Octavius join in? Marcus Octavius can take on Trump easily! After all he have many years of experiences in Politics!



But does he have a big penis like the Trump does?



That was unexpected.. I let the ladies decide, the one I slept with! They all seem to be pleases so I guess that answered your question. :]

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neugenx wrote:


shugotenshi-atm wrote:


neugenx wrote:

One simple question I haven't seen asked this election that seems like the most important one we should be asking...

"Which candidate is most likely to start World War 3?"

I know my answer. The candidate who so far has pissed off the leaders of quite a few nations.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/01/28/upshot/donald-trump-twitter-insults.html?_r=0
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/01/29/holy-sh-t-the-world-really-hates-donald-trump.html
http://www.politicususa.com/2016/03/08/foreign-diplomats-trump-represents-threat-peace-prosperity.html

What I find funniest is how he flagrantly attacks his own party while running as their candidate.

Why would you want to learn to speak like someone no one trusts, respects or believes?



Luckily in the realm of reality, starting a World War depends on a lot more than one person, and is effectively impossible with major world powers having nuclear weapons.


Actually, the first rumbles of a World War start when diplomacy breaks down between nations...

http://www.historyhome.co.uk/europe/causeww1.htm
http://www.threeworldwars.com/world-war-2/ww2.htm

All it takes are seeds of dissension and a mistrust among nations for things to escalate. We've seen what one man can do to start a riot of bigotry against a judge who is benching his fraud case (Trump University) despite the fact the guy was born in Chicago. It's no surprise Ivana announced he had a book of Hitler's speaking tactics by their bed and lied about it's contents and title (it's title: "My New Order").

http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trumps-ex-wife-once-said-he-kept-a-book-of-hitlers-speeches-by-his-bed-2015-8

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Runec: That's exactly what I mean.

Diplomacy is not going to break down between nations over one idiot being a loudmouth. Economics trumps diplomacy in the modern age, and again there will never be a war between Nuclear Nations. Yes, Trump could cause some damage by being an idiot, but I don't think he is that stupid. He is talking to be elected. Election talk is always crazy. Let's resume this conversation once he is actually President.
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shugotenshi-atm wrote:
Diplomacy is not going to break down between nations over one idiot being a loudmouth. Economics trumps diplomacy in the modern age, and again there will never be a war between Nuclear Nations. Yes, Trump could cause some damage by being an idiot, but I don't think he is that stupid. He is talking to be elected. Election talk is always crazy. Let's resume this conversation once he is actually President.


Nikita Kruschev was a reactionary nationalistic-appeal deliberately-for-show loudmouth (who openly confessed he was pumping up the volume to try and schoolyard-bully "young" JFK) who did bring us close to nuclear war, until even the Russians eventually kicked him out. You won't find much about him in the current state-approved museums.
The reason it almost worked was because we took politicians seriously back then.

Nowadays, the only people taking Trump seriously are those too wishfully caught up in their own causes (like the people who used to think Borat was a "satire on Bush Jr.'s America"...remember that?), and...other countries. Who think he's getting such high numbers because we WANT to vote for him.
That's what's going to do the damage.
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shugotenshi-atm wrote:
Diplomacy is not going to break down between nations over one idiot being a loudmouth. Economics trumps diplomacy in the modern age, and again there will never be a war between Nuclear Nations. Yes, Trump could cause some damage by being an idiot, but I don't think he is that stupid. He is talking to be elected. Election talk is always crazy. Let's resume this conversation once he is actually President.


Nikita Kruschev was a reactionary nationalistic-appeal deliberately-for-show loudmouth (who openly confessed he was pumping up the volume to try and schoolyard-bully "young" JFK) who did bring us close to nuclear war, until even the Russians eventually kicked him out. You won't find much about him in the current state-approved museums.
The reason it almost worked was because we took politicians seriously back then.


I think the risk of bringing us to near nuclear war is completely overblown. The fact is the only times we were ever close to nuclear war was when the very systems we built to detect launches malfunctioned. There has never been a time where we were on the brink of nuclear war, because ultimately we had Rational Actors as leaders and they fully understood the consequences.

Yes, the dangers and fears of nuclear war were completely overblown throughout history. The truth is rational humans will never be the first to launch nuclear Apocalypse, even if it means they will die. Hindsight shows it was fear that drove actions and the fear was entirely misplaced.

Again, it's just an election. Extremes come flying out all the time. Every single political leader who has been elected knows this and understands such posturing is just that: posturing. Actual actions, not words, will determine a nations relationship. And I feel like Trump will actually be very diplomatic.
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shugotenshi-atm wrote:


Diplomacy is not going to break down between nations over one idiot being a loudmouth. Economics trumps diplomacy in the modern age, and again there will never be a war between Nuclear Nations. Yes, Trump could cause some damage by being an idiot, but I don't think he is that stupid. He is talking to be elected. Election talk is always crazy. Let's resume this conversation once he is actually President.


There have, in fact, been wars between "nuclear nations"...
https://www.quora.com/Has-there-ever-been-a-war-between-two-nuclear-armed-nations

People tend to forget the main reason for "Pearl Harbor" as well...
http://www.pearlharbor.org/history-of-pearl-harbor.asp

The trade embargo on Japan (there's your economic reason there) was one of the main causes for Japan's attack. With a man who has already proven to use "less than acceptable" business practices jost how long do you think it would be before he turns other nations against us. He's just become the Republican nominee and he's alienated the leaders of Mexico and the UK among others. He would be the most likely candidate to cause "economic reasons". The man has proven himself to be an egomaniac with no safety valve actually sending the people who vote against him at whoever gets in his way (look up this weekends incident involving Judge Gonzalo Curiel). The worst part is harassing the Judge sitting on your case is not a rational thing to do (which Trump should be well aware of considering his sister is a sitting Judge on the US Court of Appeals).
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shugotenshi-atm wrote:


Diplomacy is not going to break down between nations over one idiot being a loudmouth. Economics trumps diplomacy in the modern age, and again there will never be a war between Nuclear Nations. Yes, Trump could cause some damage by being an idiot, but I don't think he is that stupid. He is talking to be elected. Election talk is always crazy. Let's resume this conversation once he is actually President.


There have, in fact, been wars between "nuclear nations"...
https://www.quora.com/Has-there-ever-been-a-war-between-two-nuclear-armed-nations

People tend to forget the main reason for "Pearl Harbor" as well...
http://www.pearlharbor.org/history-of-pearl-harbor.asp

The trade embargo on Japan (there's your economic reason there) was one of the main causes for Japan's attack. With a man who has already proven to use "less than acceptable" business practices jost how long do you think it would be before he turns other nations against us. He's just become the Republican nominee and he's alienated the leaders of Mexico and the UK among others. He would be the most likely candidate to cause "economic reasons". The man has proven himself to be an egomaniac with no safety valve actually sending the people who vote against him at whoever gets in his way (look up this weekends incident involving Judge Gonzalo Curiel). The worst part is harassing the Judge sitting on your case is not a rational thing to do (which Trump should be well aware of considering his sister is a sitting Judge on the US Court of Appeals).


Proxy wars, minor skirmishes that have had no conclusion, and North Korea don't count. North Korea has no deterrent capability as it cannot send a ICBM to any Nuclear armed county that isn't their ally. They also may not even have nuclear weapons that can reliably work, and there has never been active warring between them and another nation while they have nuclear weapons. The whole point of nuclear deterrence is to prevent a major conflict, which has never happened between nuclear nations. In fact if Ukraine never gave up their weapons Russia wouldn't have taken by Crimea.

The war with Japan was over prolonged economic warfare that counts in political and military terms as hostilities. Where exactly is Trump proposing we suffocate a nation? Making outrageous demands that Mexico build a wall is entirely different than proclaiming we will cut off trade with Mexico and prevent Mexico from importing oil.

The President is also not all-powerful. The fact that Obamacare was watered down to become exactly the Republican healthcare plan is proof of that. I doubt any party in congress will allow catastrophic economic policies to pass.
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If he does win, then I seriously don't blame the rest of the world for wanting to stay the fuck away from us. Including our own allies.


Then, when half the US is in smoldering ruin, the rest of the world will pledge to accept just as many American refugees as America accepted Syrian refugees. >.>



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I doubt any party in congress will allow catastrophic economic policies to pass.


Have you met congress?

Catastrophic policies are kind of their thing.
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