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Hulu may lose most of its anime catalog come June (update)
'Naruto' fans can breathe easy, but old and obscure shows like 'Arjuna' and 'New Getter Robo' are going MIA.


Hulu might be best known for its catalog of network TV shows, but for fans of Japanese animation it's been a great resource for anime titles both new and old. That looks like it's changing on June 1st, with a significant bulk of Hulu's anime catalog disappearing as the service streamlines to include only the most popular titles.

The list of expiring anime includes programs from Anime Network, Funimation, Sentai Filmworks, Toei Animation, NIS America and Viz Media. But it's not Attack on Titan and InuYasha fans who need to worry about losing access to their favorite shows -- the list is limited to older and less iconic titles like RahXephon, Le Chevalier D'Eon and Excel Saga.

Justin Sevakis of Anime News Network says that Hulu stopped accepting back catalog programs months ago, and has been gradually purging lower-performing titles since then. June 1 just represents a grander sweep -- possibly an attempt by Hulu to streamline its offerings before it begins offering live TV in 2017.

Viewers who'd still like to give some of these anime a spin aren't completely out of luck -- many of the expiring programs are still available on anime-dedicated services like Funimation, Crunchyroll and Anime Network. However, some titles like Alien 9, Arjuna and Project Arms aren't available on any streaming service or DVD and Blu-ray, leaving those fans high and dry.

Anime fans aren't the only media devotees who will find a lot less to watch on Hulu; the launch of Turner Classic Movie's FilmStruck service means that the Criterion Collection will be leaving Hulu in December.

Update: Hulu confirmed via email that while many popular series like Sailor Moon Crystal and Naruto Shippuden will remain on the service, most of the titles on the expiration list are indeed leaving in June. Two series thought to be leaving, Last Exile and Chobits, will still be available on Hulu for the immediate future.

Update 2: Viz Media confirmed separately to Anime News Network that its titles are not being removed from Hulu.

http://www.engadget.com/2016/05/27/hulu-anime-purge/



Answerman Where Is All The Anime On Hulu Going?
by Justin Sevakis,
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Michael asks:

I noticed quite a few anime titles on Hulu expiring in the coming days. From what I can tell, it's more than usual. Do you think this is a sign of Hulu losing interest in anime as a whole and only want to focus on their American television, or is it something else, like just being more choosy as to what they stream? With Amazon and Netflix getting more involved in streaming anime (especially simulcasts and exclusives), I would think Hulu would want to compete with them on terms of streaming anime.

It's true, a huge number of anime are coming down off of Hulu. Almost all of their anime, in fact. On June 1, hundreds of titles are coming down off of the site, including shows from literally every publisher. Aniplex (Bakemonogatari, Meikakucity Actors, Saekano: How to Raise a Boring Girlfriend, etc.), Bandai Visual (Alien Nine, Galaxy Angel, Saber Marionette J, etc.), Toei Animation (Fist of the North Star, Pretty Cure) and TMS Entertainment (Actually, I Am…, Brave 10, Rose of Versailles, Lupin the Third, etc.). Once the dust settles, most of these publishers will only be left with a handful of titles on the site.

Funimation seems to have the most titles left on the site after that date, but a huge number of their titles are coming down too, including Hetalia, Last Exile, Chobits and a ton of others. A good 2/3 or more of the titles from Sentai Filmworks and Anime Network are also coming down. Every NIS America title except for Kimi ni Todoke seems to be headed for the big recycling bin in the sky. And while most of the high profile Viz titles are staying, shows like K, Lagrange - The Flower of Rin-ne and Coppellion are not. (See updates below.) There are stray titles here and there from third party aggregators and publishers, and some of those are marked for deletion too.

If you rely on Hulu for your anime, and you watch anything other than the most popular or recent shows, this is the apocalypse. The site's vast back catalog of anime will be left a shadow of its former self in just 4 days after this article goes up. From this point forward, it seems like Hulu will only be carrying the top shows from each publisher, and not maintain a huge back catalog like they have been doing.

Hulu hasn't announced any initiative to purge itself of anime. However, to those who've been closely watching the company, this is a shock but not a surprise. The site had stopped taking back catalog shows, and was slowly deleting the least popular ones from the site for months. The company itself is in an odd place right now. Soon (when has not been announced), it will launch a huge new live TV streaming initiative, basically positioning itself as an alternative to cable TV service. This is a huge engineering and managerial undertaking, possibly the biggest thing Hulu has ever done. It's all-hands-on-deck.

It's also something of an open secret that less than 20% of anime titles bring in 80% of the views. This is speculation, but Hulu's management was likely looking to streamline things in anticipation of their big launch. Somebody upstairs almost certainly looked at all the man hours spent cataloging, quality-checking, ingesting, encoding, reporting viewership numbers, reporting to music rights organizations, paying royalties and all of the other stuff that comes with hosting shows. And they said, "sure, Naruto and a handful of other shows are popular, but holy crap, look at all this stuff nobody is watching!! We're wasting all of these resources on all this anime and it's just SITTING there!"

Mind you, this is Hulu. They have most current major network TV shows. They have Seinfeld reruns. They are comparing very mainstream shows to anime, most of which serves a small niche of fans at best. And they have decided that they are not in the niche media business, they are in the mainstream content business. And so, this purge.

In years past, Hulu would take nearly any professionally made piece of entertainment content that wasn't extremely short-lived, like news or sports. But while anime played an important role for them, they eventually found themselves buried under every new show and every old show that the anime publishers could possibly rustle up. And as a lot of it underperformed, they slowly got pickier and pickier in what they took. This is merely an extension of that.

That's the thing about Hulu, and indeed most streaming services: the placement of shows on the site is a temporary affair that lasts exactly as long as having it there works for both Hulu and the company that licensed it to them. For as long as the show is up, a decent percentage of the revenues from each viewing (be it from advertising or subscription fees) get paid out to the licensor. But that spigot can turn off at any time. And for many titles, it now has.

This is definitely bad news for all of the American anime publishers, to varying degrees. Even if not many people were watching these shows, viewership was good enough that Hulu played a very important role in most anime publishers' revenues. Depending on the publisher, this could hurt them just a little bit, or it could be a very serious crushing blow. It will be very interesting to see how some of them react to this. Some have started migrating their content to YouTube.

I see no indication that Hulu is looking to get out of anime entirely. They just want the hits. Unfortunately, fans depending on Hulu to watch any of the less popular shows will now have to look elsewhere. If the show you were looking for isn't on either Crunchyroll or Funimation.com or YouTube or AnimeNetwork.com or Netflix, then you may just be out of luck.

And THIS, ladies and gentlemen, is why people still buy discs. It was only a matter of time before something like this happened.

Full disclosure: I do Hulu prep work for TMS Entertainment, and have done Hulu prep work for Bandai Visual in the past.

Same updates as above

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/answerman/2016-05-27/.102530






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Is there a list of all the anime going down? That would be more helpful then just looking for the exclamation marks
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Hopefully, Crunchyroll can pick up many of these expiring titles, but nevertheless it's not a good thing to see this happen. And to think that Hulu even went as far as to get exclusive rights to a few shows, their priorities certainly are all over the place when it comes to anime. In the meantime, I had been watching Simoun, True Tears, Junkers Come Here, Saber Marionette R (I have seen the other series, but not R), and Alien 9 as this might be my final chance to watch those shows.
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Lot's of people will now be "downsizing" their Hulu subs.

I already cancelled mine. It expires mid-June now.
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I actually just got an account to Hulu to specifically watch the Grimgar of Fantasy and Ash series, and have enjoyed several titles that weren't available on Crunchyroll. I'm finishing up the Assassination Classroom right now (40 something episodes in 2 days, my eyes hurt), and then I will be cancelling my subscription.
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Hopefully, Crunchyroll can pick up many of these expiring titles, but nevertheless it's not a good thing to see this happen. And to think that Hulu even went as far as to get exclusive rights to a few shows, their priorities certainly are all over the place when it comes to anime. In the meantime, I had been watching Simoun, True Tears, Junkers Come Here, Saber Marionette R (I have seen the other series, but not R), and Alien 9 as this might be my final chance to watch those shows.


Right now may actually be more about a changing face of the animation industry than about anything. In the past year we've seen Viewster, Netflix,Amazon Prime and The Anime Network increase their licensing of not only Simulcast but older titles as well. Both Crunchyroll and Funimation have been building a much larger back catalog than ever. Now recently two other announcements have been made. Daisuki (a conglomerate of 16+ anime production companies/studios) wants a larger catalog of titles on their own site and the announcement of Crackle starting up a men's network where anime would have it's own distinctive sub-channel. I find myself wondering if the titles Hulu is losing are actually going away or just relocating to other locates.

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Heads Up: Dozens of anime titles are expiring from Hulu on June 1st (self.anime)
submitted 4 days ago by mlhradio
Heads up to everyone who is watching anime on Hulu -- looks like several dozen titles will be expiring in about a week. It may be most (if not all) titles distributed by NIS America and TMS Entertainment, as well as some Aniplex titles. Here is a partial list of what I have seen expiring on June 1st so far:


Nanana's Buried Treasure
Saekano
Classroom Crisis
Wagnaria
Actually I Am
Samurai Flamenco
World Conquest Zvedzva
Mekakucity Actors
The Pilot's Love Song
Mushi-shi
Z/X Ignition
Hi-sCool Seha Girl
Persona 4
Oreshura
Valvrave
Servant x Service
Day Break Illusion
Niseimonogatari
Love Live School Idol Project
Ghost Slayers Ayashi
Saint Seiya
Magic Knight Rayearth
Case Closed
Lupin the 3rd
Rose of Versailles
Kanojo ga Flag
Nagi no Asakura
God Mars
Space Adventure Cobra
Chronicles of the Going Home Club
Monsuno
Karate Master
Cat's Eye
Sherlock Hound
Panda Go Panda
Monster Rancher
Project Arms
Knight Hunters
Cyber Six
Brave 10
Suraj
Anisava
Future Card Buddyfight
Inazuma Eleven

This is in addition to a bunch of titles that have already expired within the past couple of weeks, including Dirty Pair, Dirty Pair Flash, Irresponsible Captain Tylor, Redline, Super Gals, Descendants of Darkness, Piano, Boys Be, Kimba the White Lion, Princess Knight, Emma, Tai Chi Chasers, Holy Knight, Gasaraki, Aria the Origination, Girl's High, Blade of the Immortal, Rio Rainbow Gate, Kite, Mirage of Blaze, Ah My Goddess, ef A Tale of Melodies, Antique Bakery, and more.
Now, titles are expiring off of Hulu all the time, but it's usually a few here and there every month. But this is a pretty large chunk of their anime catalog - maybe a fifth or more of all their titles, going away all at once. Also, this is not a complete list - there's probably plenty that I missed.
So, if you are in the middle of watching a series on Hulu, or been waiting to watch something through Hulu but have been putting it off, I strongly recommend you check your Queue or Watchlist to see if anything that you care about is expiring!



https://www.reddit.com/r/anime/comments/4l0jyt/heads_up_dozens_of_anime_titles_are_expiring_from/
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Heads Up: Dozens of anime titles are expiring from Hulu on June 1st (self.anime)
submitted 4 days ago by mlhradio
Heads up to everyone who is watching anime on Hulu -- looks like several dozen titles will be expiring in about a week. It may be most (if not all) titles distributed by NIS America and TMS Entertainment, as well as some Aniplex titles. Here is a partial list of what I have seen expiring on June 1st so far:


Nanana's Buried Treasure
Saekano
Classroom Crisis
Wagnaria
Actually I Am
Samurai Flamenco
World Conquest Zvedzva
Mekakucity Actors
The Pilot's Love Song
Mushi-shi
Z/X Ignition
Hi-sCool Seha Girl
Persona 4
Oreshura
Valvrave
Servant x Service
Day Break Illusion
Niseimonogatari
Love Live School Idol Project
Ghost Slayers Ayashi
Saint Seiya
Magic Knight Rayearth
Case Closed
Lupin the 3rd
Rose of Versailles
Kanojo ga Flag
Nagi no Asakura
God Mars
Space Adventure Cobra
Chronicles of the Going Home Club
Monsuno
Karate Master
Cat's Eye
Sherlock Hound
Panda Go Panda
Monster Rancher
Project Arms
Knight Hunters
Cyber Six
Brave 10
Suraj
Anisava
Future Card Buddyfight
Inazuma Eleven

This is in addition to a bunch of titles that have already expired within the past couple of weeks, including Dirty Pair, Dirty Pair Flash, Irresponsible Captain Tylor, Redline, Super Gals, Descendants of Darkness, Piano, Boys Be, Kimba the White Lion, Princess Knight, Emma, Tai Chi Chasers, Holy Knight, Gasaraki, Aria the Origination, Girl's High, Blade of the Immortal, Rio Rainbow Gate, Kite, Mirage of Blaze, Ah My Goddess, ef A Tale of Melodies, Antique Bakery, and more.
Now, titles are expiring off of Hulu all the time, but it's usually a few here and there every month. But this is a pretty large chunk of their anime catalog - maybe a fifth or more of all their titles, going away all at once. Also, this is not a complete list - there's probably plenty that I missed.
So, if you are in the middle of watching a series on Hulu, or been waiting to watch something through Hulu but have been putting it off, I strongly recommend you check your Queue or Watchlist to see if anything that you care about is expiring!



https://www.reddit.com/r/anime/comments/4l0jyt/heads_up_dozens_of_anime_titles_are_expiring_from/


It appears at least some of those titles are safe now. Quite a few providers have contacted Ask the Answerman this weekend to announce that a lot of the titles marked for deletion were marked in error since that post was posted. There will still be removals but not near as many as first predicted.

"UPDATE 2: As of very early on Saturday morning, a good number of expiring titles from Funimation, Sentai, Anime Network and TMS, as well as all titles from Viz and Toei Animation are now no longer set to expire on June 1. I doubt we'll ever know for sure what happened, but it appears that the purge is now not quite as extreme as it was feared to be. There are still many shows that will be removed on that date, however".
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Sigh it was my hope Hulu would keep up anime on its site, but they must not like subscribers very much!
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It appears at least some of those titles are safe now. Quite a few providers have contacted Ask the Answerman this weekend to announce that a lot of the titles marked for deletion were marked in error since that post was posted. There will still be removals but not near as many as first predicted.

"UPDATE 2: As of very early on Saturday morning, a good number of expiring titles from Funimation, Sentai, Anime Network and TMS, as well as all titles from Viz and Toei Animation are now no longer set to expire on June 1. I doubt we'll ever know for sure what happened, but it appears that the purge is now not quite as extreme as it was feared to be. There are still many shows that will be removed on that date, however".


Hmmmm I'm getting mixed messages from this. So it's just simply several titles having expiring licenses and not Hulu intentionally taking off all these shows? If so, then this isn't anything we haven't experiences before. Licensing expire and other services pick them up or don't. That's just the way the cookie crumbles.

This news just seemed so weird to me because the last two seasons they got exclusive animes. Plus Viz and Anime Network use Hulu has their video provider. On top of that, many english distributors post a lot of simulcasts on Hulu each season (I'm not sure how short the license for that is though, I never check), I can't imagine that changing either unless they want fewer titles on Hulu to promote their service (like Funi).

What I do/did like about Hulu is that they had a lot of random old anime on there
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Damn. Kurau and some other shows that were on my Hulu to-watch list are hard enough to come by as it is.
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It appears at least some of those titles are safe now. Quite a few providers have contacted Ask the Answerman this weekend to announce that a lot of the titles marked for deletion were marked in error since that post was posted. There will still be removals but not near as many as first predicted.

"UPDATE 2: As of very early on Saturday morning, a good number of expiring titles from Funimation, Sentai, Anime Network and TMS, as well as all titles from Viz and Toei Animation are now no longer set to expire on June 1. I doubt we'll ever know for sure what happened, but it appears that the purge is now not quite as extreme as it was feared to be. There are still many shows that will be removed on that date, however".


I haven't used Hulu a lot, and when I have it's mostly not been for anime, so I can't really says what's common, however it has been my experience on multiple occasions to have something in my Queue shown to expire on a certain date, and then to, fairly close to if not on the actual expire date, get a new fairly far future date.

I've always assumed (though I've never looked into it to verify) that the initial date is based on a current contract, and that many of the contracts do get renewed or extended as the old one expires, and thus the new date.

If that's true then we probably won't know for several days what the real impact is. Probably a lot of these contracts for the anime were made at around the same time, which is why so many of them seem to be expiring at once.
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Onbusy wrote:

I actually just got an account to Hulu to specifically watch the Grimgar of Fantasy and Ash series, and have enjoyed several titles that weren't available on Crunchyroll. I'm finishing up the Assassination Classroom right now (40 something episodes in 2 days, my eyes hurt), and then I will be cancelling my subscription.


If you just wanted to watch those shows, you should've gotten a sub at Funimation. They have both of those shows and simulcast more than a few exclusives each season.
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Just cancelled my subscription last week before I heard about the lose of shows, because I was busy and haven't even been able to keep up with the simulcasts on CR and Funi.

Looks like I won't have to start it back up.
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Well dang. Also True Tears will be gone too? One of the better romance animes out there
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