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Posted 6/2/16

jaxzar13 wrote:

Explain the reason why men like anime more than women.

Basically, tell me why the difference between male to female ratio is so different in respect those who watch anime and read manga.

What would you suggest to reach a higher female audience to begin watching anime and reading manga?

Give me a reason other than fan service or elaborate how they can decrease fan servicing.
I'm interested in knowing your opinions :D


This sounds like a university essay question.

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Posted 6/2/16
I got no fucking clue. Sister love Nisekoi and Black bullet but that it. I am lost, to be honest on this
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What evidence do you have to support the beginning? How do you know it's not the other way around?

I always thought Crunchyroll here was pretty indicative of anime fans as a whole and we seem 50/50 gender wise.
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They don't, and this question is stupid.


This is like asking why men like potatoes more than women, or why women like wearing hat's more then men, or why Dog's prefer running over cats.


It lumps a whole lot of things into a very rigid and defined sentence.


Quite simply, the truth avoids simplicity.
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What, and you think male harem protagonists are realistic, or that the average man can compete with characters like Ichigo Kurosaki and Edward Elric? Or are you saying that even female anime writers are inherently hostile towards women when they don't make girl characters the way you want, or by them making anime males in a way that displeases you? Perhaps, though, you fail to realize that all characters can be made to fit whatever desires people want, regardless of sex. I don't want to know why you expect heavy-handed realism in fiction. It's like a man going on a tirade against historical romance novels and how they're "inherently hostile towards men" for promoting unrealistic expectations of men and the male form. Hell, the creater of the FMA series specifically designed Alexander Armstrong around her fantasy of an ideal man. You think women don't watch typical anime and drool over the unrealistically "perfect" and physically attractive man? What do think all the yaoi hentai, doujin, and lemon fanfictions are all about? More importantly, who are you to say that all of us female viewers feel threatened and degraded by imaginary people? Or are opposed to sexualized women?

You have a shit ton of double-standards, and are bad with making asinine assumptions about other women.


Are you upset about sexualized and unrealistic anime females, or is this more about you being upset that you don't have as much fap material of your own that caters to your homoerotic fantasies as men do.
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Because most anime are based off of graphic novels which were meant for teenage boys. Osamu Tezuka for example, hasn't thought of making a manga for girls (called Ribbon no Kishi) until several years after he made Metropolis, though Ribbon no Kishi wasn't the first shoujo series that rose to popularity like Sailor Moon, so Tezuka decided to make more manga for men instead. So basically, it's because most writers in the past haven't thought of making anime/manga exclusively for women very often, but that's beginning to change isn't it?
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Well if you go back in time, mecha anime was it in the 70's, 80's, 90's

andkids but mainly boys were the target auidence.
But I liked mecha
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Male anime characters aren't realistic either, but they are mostly positive. It's not so much about the characters, though, as the fact that it's glaringly obvious that the majority of anime isn't intended for women. Like most media, it's created with men in mind. It's interesting that you just assume that I'm just making all of this up when it's so obvious just by looking at the anime aired every season. Even in shows that can be easily enjoyed by women, the female characters will always be slender, attractive, probably with large breasts, straight, blushes at the thought of holding hands, etc. As for male harem protagonists, they're just as problematic, but in a way that's 0% harmful to men.

Yes, female anime writers are hostile towards women. It's not just that I don't like the characters or the shows they write, it's that they create characters that are damaging, insultingly infantile portrayals of women. And that's what the majority of female anime characters are today. With male characters, it's not difficult to find many well-developed and nuanced characters, but it's much more difficult to do that with female characters. As I said, even looking at shows explicitly made for girls, they're almost always about landing some hot guy, but the main character is usually one of those wilting, infantile girls with zero ambition or free will. They're treated like children, which isn't surprising given anime's preoccupation with the pure, virginal maiden who only exists to help others and ignore her own desires so much that she's barely even a person. But more than anything, girls in anime seemingly can't exist without men. Their existence almost always centers around the men in their lives. In romance shows, the man is the ultimate goal and the girl doesn't think of anything but him, and he's always perfect, even when he treats her like garbage, and everything's happy and sparkly because girls can't process any entertainment that isn't empty saccharine sweetness.

And yes, I'm fucking pissed that there's not more fap material for women. It's just another example of how men get everything handed to them on a silver platter, and then get pissed whenever it's obvious that something isn't made for them. Basically, the same problems that exist for women when it comes to representation in any type of media apply to anime as well. It's not like I'm making any of this up. These are just observations I've made as a female anime viewer, and why I think that anime as a medium and a culture is much less welcoming of women than it is of men. Gender in anime is a complex and nuanced topic, and there are probably a lot of things you could read out there that'll sum it up better than I ever could.
Posted 6/3/16
Some women aren't as open as about it
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princealitheb wrote:

Male anime characters aren't realistic either, but they are mostly positive. It's not so much about the characters, though, as the fact that it's glaringly obvious that the majority of anime isn't intended for women. Like most media, it's created with men in mind. It's interesting that you just assume that I'm just making all of this up when it's so obvious just by looking at the anime aired every season. Even in shows that can be easily enjoyed by women, the female characters will always be slender, attractive, probably with large breasts, straight, blushes at the thought of holding hands, etc. As for male harem protagonists, they're just as problematic, but in a way that's 0% harmful to men.

Yes, female anime writers are hostile towards women. It's not just that I don't like the characters or the shows they write, it's that they create characters that are damaging, insultingly infantile portrayals of women. And that's what the majority of female anime characters are today. With male characters, it's not difficult to find many well-developed and nuanced characters, but it's much more difficult to do that with female characters. As I said, even looking at shows explicitly made for girls, they're almost always about landing some hot guy, but the main character is usually one of those wilting, infantile girls with zero ambition or free will. They're treated like children, which isn't surprising given anime's preoccupation with the pure, virginal maiden who only exists to help others and ignore her own desires so much that she's barely even a person. But more than anything, girls in anime seemingly can't exist without men. Their existence almost always centers around the men in their lives. In romance shows, the man is the ultimate goal and the girl doesn't think of anything but him, and he's always perfect, even when he treats her like garbage, and everything's happy and sparkly because girls can't process any entertainment that isn't empty saccharine sweetness.

And yes, I'm fucking pissed that there's not more fap material for women. It's just another example of how men get everything handed to them on a silver platter, and then get pissed whenever it's obvious that something isn't made for them. Basically, the same problems that exist for women when it comes to representation in any type of media apply to anime as well. It's not like I'm making any of this up. These are just observations I've made as a female anime viewer, and why I think that anime as a medium and a culture is much less welcoming of women than it is of men. Gender in anime is a complex and nuanced topic, and there are probably a lot of things you could read out there that'll sum it up better than I ever could.


On principle, I think you're right. Most female characters in anime are barely even characters they're just 2D fantasy representations--whether they're male sexual fantasies or female ideals (because the "I'm a magical girl" complex is kind of like the western princess thing). I don't think it's necessarily a question of hostility though as it is a symptom of Japanese culture--which is kind of stuck in the 1950s in terms of gender equality.

BUT there are some good, multidimensional female anime characters out there. They're just harder to find. If you want some viewing recommendations send me a pm.

Posted 6/3/16 , edited 6/3/16
This is really just a stereotype. I'd say the anime fandom is pretty evenly split. Men and women just tend to prefer different sites to engage in their hobby, but when I went to conventions I'd say the male:female ratio is pretty evenly split though only the convention runners probably know the exact number.

If you go to Japan however, the doujinshi scene is mostly made up of women. You ever wonder why there's a crazy amount of BL doujins for shows? Well that's partly why. That and fujoshi for some reason work extra fast.


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What, and you think male harem protagonists are realistic, or that the average man can compete with characters like Ichigo Kurosaki and Edward Elric? Or are you saying that even female anime writers are inherently hostile towards women when they don't make girl characters the way you want, or by them making anime males in a way that displeases you? Perhaps, though, you fail to realize that all characters can be made to fit whatever desires people want, regardless of sex. I don't want to know why you expect heavy-handed realism in fiction. It's like a man going on a tirade against historical romance novels and how they're "inherently hostile towards men" for promoting unrealistic expectations of men and the male form. Hell, the creater of the FMA series specifically designed Alexander Armstrong around her fantasy of an ideal man. You think women don't watch typical anime and drool over the unrealistically "perfect" and physically attractive man? What do think all the yaoi hentai, doujin, and lemon fanfictions are all about? More importantly, who are you to say that all of us female viewers feel threatened and degraded by imaginary people? Or are opposed to sexualized women?

You have a shit ton of double-standards, and are bad with making asinine assumptions about other women.


Are you upset about sexualized and unrealistic anime females, or is this more about you being upset that you don't have as much fap material of your own that caters to your homoerotic fantasies as men do.


There is a large difference between a character that is used as a self insert living in an ideal fantasy world and a character that is created to exist as that ideal. Women can be hostile to other women, just like how pre-civil rights there were African Americans against the movement. There were also women against the first wave of feminism that fought for women's rights to an education and to vote. Just because you are a part of a group doesn't mean you align with particular ideologies of said group.

You're being unnecessary hostile towards someone else's opinion. Really, it's just their thoughts no need to jump down their throat and act all pissy. Can't you behave more maturely?
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From what I've seen it seems (in the US) the number of male to female fans isn't exactly equal among the sexes but dang close ...
http://icv2.com/articles/columns/view/31899/new-eventbrite-survey-reveals-convention-demographics-spending-patterns

It's equal (49%/49%) when speaking of under 30s but slightly higher male (54%/46%) when going over 30.
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I'd guess a near 50/50 split ; but I also think more women would be open about it if they didn't have to endure harassment
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Because Men and Women are different. There's been enough experimentation with Toddlers and Toys, boys and girls for the most part always gravitate towards different toys/activities.
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Felstalker wrote:

They don't, and this question is stupid.


This is like asking why men like potatoes more than women, or why women like wearing hat's more then men, or why Dog's prefer running over cats.



So THAT'S why I keep catching my dog beyond the steering wheel when the neighbor's cats are out....



It really is a stupid question. There are no facts supporting this assertion. Industry people have stated that the mix is fairly equal, at least in the US and Europe. Although it might be different in other countries, in which case it's a question of those countries cultures, not gender.
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