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Humanity does good every day. Its just not considered newsworthy. Which in and of itself should tell you all you need to know.

Being and doing good is considered the norm. Honestly, its the entire basis of our society from a social standpoint. So we only really take notice when someone deviates from it. An act of kindness is a footnote at the end of the evening news on a Sunday. An act of dickishness is 10 million youtube views, 4 panel discussions on cable news and half an episode of The View.



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Its not wrong . Stupid maybe, I mean haven't you realized good and bad orbit each other.
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I've been a "people-watcher" for the last 6 years. I have noticed several patterns among the random people I've watched. Eventually, this pattern made me cynical. This cynicism led me to hate Human Nature, one of the facets for Misanthropy. (which is not depression but it can lead to depression if you don't "own it" like I do)

You can say "Not all people are bad." Like how we consider it absurd to think one bad person makes us all bad. But it's equally absurd to believe that one good person makes us all good. It just so happens the patterns I noticed were all bad patterns. Lying, cheating, stealing. Mass murders, school shootings, political nonsense, the rise of shady social justice agendas.

So are there good people, genuinely? Yes. Rarely. Those people are heavily outnumbered by those who aren't. Almost everyone you meet is self serving and will sacrifice you before themselves. Including some people in your own family. I would also like to mention the "Bystander Effect." It's these reasons that I hate Humans.

That's where I stand and I'm not backing down. Feel free to disagree though.
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It is incorrect.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAQ_px-UBqs

Just something that shows you what humans really are. Keep in mind, most of these situations happened so fast there was no time to think thoroughly, yet these people immediately acted. That is all the evidence I need that humanity has plenty of good.
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All you have to do is do good things and only good things will come your way
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HolyDrumstick wrote:

It is incorrect.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAQ_px-UBqs

Just something that shows you what humans really are. Keep in mind, most of these situations happened so fast there was no time to think thoroughly, yet these people immediately acted. That is all the evidence I need that humanity has plenty of good.


I love those videos but the one you linked is just a rip from more popular channels.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMYrIi_Mt8A is the same video with links to many more.
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HolyDrumstick wrote:

It is incorrect.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAQ_px-UBqs

Just something that shows you what humans really are. Keep in mind, most of these situations happened so fast there was no time to think thoroughly, yet these people immediately acted. That is all the evidence I need that humanity has plenty of good.


Thanks for sharing. It was powerful to view. Reminds me of when I stop strangers from walking in front of the shuttle on the 16th street mall or before walking in front of the lightrail. Sometimes people are lost in their thoughts or distracted, not aware of their surroundings. Happen to me once when I got off lightrail and cross the street to go to the office. I didn't have the right way to cross but the oncoming traffic stop. I didn't realized to after I cross that I could have been hit. I was so lost in my thoughts, I wasn't paying attention.
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This is actually a central idea in Thomas Hobbes' social contract theory. Basically, it says that humans act only out of self interest, so government and religion were invented to keep us from all killing each other. It is actually pretty similar to Freud's theory about the id and superego, to.
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No it isn't wrong belief is needed.
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qualeshia3 wrote:So, is it wrong to think there can never be good in humanity? Is humanity nothing but bad? Should I change my outlook on life because I think this way? What do you think?


"Look for the bad in people, and you shall surely find it."
- Abraham Lincoln

(Well, okay, he didn't actually say that, Disney just made up the quote for "Pollyanna" and attributed it to him, because they couldn't find any actual quote they could use to make their point.)


Is it me or are there a lot of misanthropists on Crunchyroll and the rest of the internet?


There are not quite so many misanthropists on the Internet as there are picked-on high-school kids wanting you to THINK there are.
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keeton52 wrote:

I've been a "people-watcher" for the last 6 years. I have noticed several patterns among the random people I've watched. Eventually, this pattern made me cynical. This cynicism led me to hate Human Nature, one of the facets for Misanthropy. (which is not depression but it can lead to depression if you don't "own it" like I do)

You can say "Not all people are bad." Like how we consider it absurd to think one bad person makes us all bad. But it's equally absurd to believe that one good person makes us all good. It just so happens the patterns I noticed were all bad patterns. Lying, cheating, stealing. Mass murders, school shootings, political nonsense, the rise of shady social justice agendas.

So are there good people, genuinely? Yes. Rarely. Those people are heavily outnumbered by those who aren't. Almost everyone you meet is self serving and will sacrifice you before themselves. Including some people in your own family. I would also like to mention the "Bystander Effect." It's these reasons that I hate Humans.

That's where I stand and I'm not backing down. Feel free to disagree though.
based on your post, I'm lead to believe that misanthropy people hate themselves

Anyways, there are people who are dedicating their lives to help others. Perhaps you should try getting to know those people. You don't need to befriend the world, just one or two is enough.
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keeton52 wrote:

Being angry, cynical, and misanthropic is my shtick. I'd be lost without it.


It's why we love you, Hachima- I mean....Keeton52.


But anyways. First, what's good? What's bad? It's all very subjective, you know. Good is what you believe good is, and bad is what you believe bad is. So. What do you believe? There's your answer. It's what you believe, not what other people believe. Therefore, it isn't inherently wrong for you to think there is no good in humanity, nor will there ever be, because it isn't inherently wrong to believe in something. Whether or not this is actually correct is a different story, however.
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Not all of them do. I used to be depressed (long story) but mostly got out of it. Though I had some thoughts that made me come to hate myself. (on a personal level) That has nothing to do with hating us as a species or our general nature. I still like people on a person to person level.

Or something like that.

It just keeps getting worse, what with the current election cycle in the US.

I still haven't learned how to quote yet, by the way. I get intimidated every time I try it.

(Edit, add on: Now we see why I chose a Hachiman as my picture)
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I'd say it's wrong to think there can be no good in humanity. There can't be good if there's no evil.

And there's lots of misanthropes on the internet because of deindividuation. Anonymity allows people to act in a way that would generally be frowned upon in a social context. There's no repercussions to trash talking humanity on the internet, so they take the opportunity to do so.
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