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Kit Harington Faces Backlash for Saying Men Face Sexism Too
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Ouch, talk about tone deaf.
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Razor_Girl wrote:

Objectification is different than sexism. Although there are certain fields that are historically mostly female where men can find themselves at a disadvantage, for instance, male nurses and male teachers. Even though I just saw another case of a female teacher abusing a 13 year old male student today, male teachers are the ones who have to be super careful about their behavior to avoid any possible confusion. I've known male gym teachers who got in trouble for assisting gymnastics team members in their jumps over a horse. I've known male nurses who were fired for actually following the hospital's guidelines when restraining a mentally disabled patient who was attempting self-harm. Apparently a visitor to the hospital saw the incident and thought it was "excessive" although had it been a female nurse restraining the patient chances are they would have thought she needed help.


This, they make all us men out to be sexual predators when most of us are not. It can make certain jobs difficult because of it like the ones she listed, I wouldn't be surprised if some men pretend to be gay as to avoid that persecution.
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I don't think he understands what the term sexism is...... He's somehow saying, he's feeling objectified because people think he's sexy? In particular I hate that photo of him (he looks like the Geico caveman), but in general I just think he looks normal? Not to belittle his feelings, but sexism in Hollywood generally relates to being excluded or being made to feel unequal I think. Like if he didn't get the part because he was a man? Weird thought, or if he got paid less because he was a man, or if solely, because he was a man he was asked to dress in a demeaning manner, not related to the role he agreed to play or for events etc.

I'm not saying sexism couldn't be experienced by a guy, obviously it likely does, but much like whites experiencing racism it's largely ancedotal or by comparison much smaller in scale and frequency.


True.... but at the same time this is exactly the shit feminists bitch about so he's using sexism as all these people who cry about women being objectified use it.

Seriously there are so many people who act like seeing women as sexy or using sexyness to help sell a movie is a bad thing and is treating the woman like an object. What he's saying is the same thing.

He's stating that his looks are being used to help draw in audiences perhaps even above his actual acting skill (not saying he can't act I'm saying perhaps people care more about the fact he's attractive).

So I do agree sexism isn't the right word for it. But it is the very same "problem" that feminists claim is "Plauging" female actors. Like if I said [blank] was really hot they would flip out and go "so that's all she is to you? Just an object to gawk at?"

The same is true with video games and other things.

Sexy male characters?
"Of course that's only natural."

Sexy female characters?
"OMG what is wrong with the video game industry turning women into nothing but eye candy? Never mind the fact the original metroid rewarded fast completion with a naked Samus. No this is a MODERN issue and needs to be fixed because ... because ... well really nothing would change society wise even if videogames stopped making females in videogames attractive. In fact women would probably be offended for being designed so average and bland. But still this is an issue related to womens right ... somehow."

Basically men are expected to be attractive and should be flattered women gawk and fawn over them because it all feeds into their "male power fantasy" or whatever. But if a woman is attractive then any man that gawks or fawns over her is a sexist pig for looking at her like an object instead of a person.

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Well I would've thought the feminists would have supported his statements because of the "Gender Equality" thing they like to throw around. But instead he's given the "You know nothing Jon Snow" treatment...



No because most feminists have become stupid enough to believe sexism towards men is made up.
Not the few who are intelligient but the large majority that have turned feminism into a joke and all the idiotic women who follow Anita Sarkeesian who has stated thousands of times There’s no such thing as sexism against men

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Yeah that about "looks different when a man does it then how a women does it".^^^

Or just any sexual behavior from a man that might frighten someone (espcally male gym teachers with teens in such a.. period of...)
To females doing or done sexual things towards (from how some strippers etc are valued either by .."fans" or other females)

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Somewhat_Insane_Monkey wrote:


Razor_Girl wrote:

Objectification is different than sexism. Although there are certain fields that are historically mostly female where men can find themselves at a disadvantage, for instance, male nurses and male teachers. Even though I just saw another case of a female teacher abusing a 13 year old male student today, male teachers are the ones who have to be super careful about their behavior to avoid any possible confusion. I've known male gym teachers who got in trouble for assisting gymnastics team members in their jumps over a horse. I've known male nurses who were fired for actually following the hospital's guidelines when restraining a mentally disabled patient who was attempting self-harm. Apparently a visitor to the hospital saw the incident and thought it was "excessive" although had it been a female nurse restraining the patient chances are they would have thought she needed help.


This, they make all us men out to be sexual predators when most of us are not. It can make certain jobs difficult because of it like the ones she listed, I wouldn't be surprised if some men pretend to be gay as to avoid that persecution.


Exactly. I'm a man and I make an effort to treat women with sincerity and respect. I don't make advances on them that are not appropriate or unwanted and I don't act like I'm better than them in anyway. But if I so much as brush up against the wrong women in public I could et accused of sexual assault and everyone will rush to immediately defend her. I'm not even kidding stuff like that happens.

The problem is while women complain about being treated as the weaker sex they also treat us as the stronger and aggressive sex. Which is self contradictory because if we are stronger aren't they weaker? WHICH IS IT!
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Technically, referring to Holydrum stick since my quotes don't seem to be working, racism against whites is really more of a reflexive thing. Mostly pertaining to whites that never considered racism before they began to feel threatened by seeing people who weren't white and didn't agree with their ideology get into positions of power. Suddenly, everything begins to seem racist, as if by magic it suddently became an important thing based primarily on ancedotal evidence of what happened to this other guy somewhere they read about online or saw on Fox news. Generally, these people are just one or two generations removed from relatives who still casually use the "N" word and those like it. So this hyper awareness of racism against whites evolves as a defense mechanism or a small way to find common ground with previous generations.

Now, it really doesn exist in practical situations like at where my friend works he occasionally is marginalized by being white, but it's never kept him from being promoted or got him fired. So by and large it's not systemic yet in any particular large employers or institutions that I could point to. However, I've yet to be followed around the store because I was white and someone thought I was going to steal something or gotten pulled over because I was white in the wrong neighborhood. So really, I appreciate though I might once or twice in my life be discrimiated against because I'm white it's not something that generally endangers my life or my ability to make a living.
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I don't think he understands what the term sexism is...... He's somehow saying, he's feeling objectified because people think he's sexy? In particular I hate that photo of him (he looks like the Geico caveman), but in general I just think he looks normal? Not to belittle his feelings, but sexism in Hollywood generally relates to being excluded or being made to feel unequal I think. Like if he didn't get the part because he was a man? Weird thought, or if he got paid less because he was a man, or if solely, because he was a man he was asked to dress in a demeaning manner, not related to the role he agreed to play or for events etc.

I'm not saying sexism couldn't be experienced by a guy, obviously it likely does, but much like whites experiencing racism it's largely ancedotal or by comparison much smaller in scale and frequency.


you want a geico caveman? you should see my old highschool principle LOL, the whole school joked about it, he legit, looks like the caveman in the commercial its hilarious
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I mean treat people like people and when either does something like that, and not being one sided when race and gender like sexism, and racism can happend to both sides and be target or used different ways by different reasons to different places where these things are more or less like that (gun violence, hate or mistreatment against these, some being in that mostly black community and this in mostly white community)
Sadly the bad black community is more or less "following" or will come back to those in the good black community.
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The outcry against his words is coming from the same Feminist wave that flips out over "man-spreading," "eye-rape," and bikini-clad video game characters. Hypocrisy at it's finest.
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Mountain out of a molehill...
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aeb0717 wrote: "eye-rape," and bikini-clad
oh yeah those ads about summer time and how to be dressed into your bikini, while that got a huge negative feedback by feminists, so bad it was like... eye rape if they walked past it.. lol
Sadly too many females likes to be cute or sexy (also why most of them snapping in a "sexy" pose as they can infront of it as well... make it look even weirder)
And mostly dismiss the female against female negative attitude with "Girls can't do that or be like that"..."have you joined the mens team, you are no longer a feminist and are against female rights..." "feminism made you to who you are now" "feminism is a part of you!"
-while none of them got a job and are out of work leading to "where are they now then, what was they able to do?"...-

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Posted 6/2/16

blueshield wrote:

I don't think he understands what the term sexism is...... He's somehow saying, he's feeling objectified because people think he's sexy? In particular I hate that photo of him (he looks like the Geico caveman), but in general I just think he looks normal? Not to belittle his feelings, but sexism in Hollywood generally relates to being excluded or being made to feel unequal I think. Like if he didn't get the part because he was a man? Weird thought, or if he got paid less because he was a man, or if solely, because he was a man he was asked to dress in a demeaning manner, not related to the role he agreed to play or for events etc.

I'm not saying sexism couldn't be experienced by a guy, obviously it likely does, but much like whites experiencing racism it's largely ancedotal or by comparison much smaller in scale and frequency.


Maybe just me but I like caveman.
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It comes with the job unfortunately, regardless of gender. From Script, to Brief, to Casting, to Show. At every stage. That's acting.
He probably just isn't used to encountering sexism in his everyday life in addition to on jobs so it stands out more.
I see his point but plenty of people are discriminated against without a meaty pay cheque at the end of the day. I'll happily trade places...

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Well you are an industry that focuses on fan service so what do you expect!!!??? With all the money they make, I don't think they should be complaining.....
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