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So if guns were not demonized, were a part of the lives of and a responsibility of everyone from a young age, and in general received positive support, there would be much fewer gun crimes?
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Ryulightorb wrote:


Probably would not be any less dangerous with everyone having a gun.

Guns do deter but they don't stop crime.

more guns isn't an answer to this problem


You didn't read the article did you?
Its not necessarily about adding more guns to the equation, its about teaching gun safety to everyone, among other social changes we could make.


One of the reasons the crime rate in Switzerland is low despite the prevalence of weapons — and also why the Swiss mentality can’t be transposed to the current American reality — is the culture of responsibility and safety that is anchored in society and passed from generation to generation. Kids as young as 12 belong to gun groups in their local communities, where they learn sharpshooting. The Swiss Shooting Sports Association runs about 3,000 clubs and has 150,000 members, including a youth section. Many members keep their guns and ammunition at home, while others choose to leave them at the club. And yet, despite such easy access to pistols and rifles, “no members have ever used their guns for criminal purposes,” says Max Flueckiger, the association’s spokesperson.

“Social conditions are fundamental in deterring crime,” says Peter Squires, professor of criminology and public policy at the University of Brighton in Great Britain, who has studied gun violence in different countries and concluded that a “culture of support” rather than focus on individualism, can deter mass killings.

“If people have a responsible, disciplined and organized introduction into an activity like shooting, there will be less risk of gun violence,” he tells TIME.

That sense of social and civic responsibility is one of the reasons the Swiss have never allowed their guns to come under fire.



Was on my phone so i couldn't sadly had 1% battery left :(

But yeah that seems better then adding more guns to the mix.

Responsible gun owners is what is needed
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That gun free zone seems to be working out really good.
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Wasn't me.
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So if guns were not demonized, were a part of the lives of and a responsibility of everyone from a young age, and in general received positive support, there would be much fewer gun crimes?


Yeah, if you were a gun owner with children, and you started them out at a young age teaching them about guns, basic safety, not to touch without supervision, how to handle a gun safely then they are less likely to accidentally hurt someone with it and assuming you teach them the right morals to have about guns, they should have a respect and fear of what a gun can do.

To me personally, a gun is a tool the same as a band saw or grind wheel, or anything you would use in a shop. Yes it is dangerous, but if you teach someone to respect the tool, how to safely work with it, and when it would be appropriate to use it, then they are more likely to not hurt themselves or others with it.

Plus, as others have stated, you can't humanize an inanimate object, a gun is neither good nor evil. It does not choose to hurt or kill someone, it will not fire on its own. Its all about the person behind the gun and who they are.
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I can give a good example and a bad example.

Good: An instructor I had taught his kid from about the time he was 4 or 5 about basic gun safety. He taught him basic safety practices like never pointing a gun at a person or object you don't want to destroy, always assuming a gun is loaded until checked, keeping your finger off the trigger until you are ready to fire, etc.

One day the man's nephew was over and he was showing his guns to his nephew, because he was going to be staying with him for the summer and he wanted to make sure no incidents happened. The nephew picked up the gun while it was pointing at the man, his son who was now around 10, pushed the barrel to a safe direction and took the firearm from his cousin before the man could react. He had ingrained good safety practices into his son.

Bad: an old coworker from high school had a foreign exchange student stay with them. The father wanted to make sure there would be no incidents with the student so he took his gun out to teach them some safety. He handed the student the gun without checking it himself and the transfer student put a round through their brand new tv. The man clearly didn't have basic gun safety down, nor did he follow safety rules trying to teach about safety.
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I think we need address the gun obsessed culture.
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Chicago had 64 shootings over the 4th, only 4 fatal though.

Good Job Chicago!

Maybe Trump shouldn't stop at building a wall around Mexico...

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