Post Reply Isn't this a bit odd?
Posted 6/3/16
I could just study science on Wikipedia and technically be called a scientist and I can draw stickmen all day as a hobby and be called an artist because it fits in with the definition of scientist and artist.

Scientist: A person who is studying or has expert knowledge of one or more of the natural or physical sciences.
Artist: A person who produces paintings or drawings as a profession or hobby.

You can tell hilarious jokes and make people laugh all day but if it's not as a job you can't call yourself a comedian or an entertainer.
Comedian: An entertainer whose act is designed to make an audience laugh.
Entertainer: A person, such as a singer, dancer, or comedian, whose job is to entertain others.

You'd think the one having to do with comedy would be less strict and the one that can deal with astrophysics
and quantum physics would be a little more strict. It's easy to become an artist but being a comedian actually takes requirements.

Does anyone else find this a tad bit odd.
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are you trying to tell me that I'm a technician just because I own a phone and know how to use computers?
Posted 6/3/16

LubbockNR wrote:

are you trying to tell me that I'm a technician just because I own a phone and know how to use computers?


No. A technician is someone employed to look after technical equipment or do practical work in a laboratory.
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Posted 6/3/16 , edited 6/3/16
This is why talent, experience, and expertise exist as measurements and qualifiers. You are correct in your assumptions. However without any of what I have listed you are not a professional, but rather and amateur.

Unless you are Randal Munroe .
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Posted 6/3/16 , edited 6/3/16

ZavinRoyalheart wrote:


LubbockNR wrote:

are you trying to tell me that I'm a technician just because I own a phone and know how to use computers?


No. A technician is someone employed to look after technical equipment or do practical work in a laboratory.


Well then I guess I'll be a technition then if all I have to do is stare at technology
Posted 6/3/16

Somewhat_Insane_Monkey wrote:


ZavinRoyalheart wrote:


LubbockNR wrote:

are you trying to tell me that I'm a technician just because I own a phone and know how to use computers?


No. A technician is someone employed to look after technical equipment or do practical work in a laboratory.


Well then I guess I'll be a technition then if all I have to do is stare at technology


Well the point is that you have to be employed to do so. If you're employed to than you most certainly are a technician.
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Posted 6/3/16

ZavinRoyalheart wrote:

I could just study science on Wikipedia and technically be called a scientist and I can draw stickmen all day as a hobby and be called an artist because it fits in with the definition of scientist and artist.

Scientist: A person who is studying or has expert knowledge of one or more of the natural or physical sciences.
Artist: A person who produces paintings or drawings as a profession or hobby.

You can tell hilarious jokes and make people laugh all day but if it's not as a job you can't call yourself a comedian or an entertainer.
Comedian: An entertainer whose act is designed to make an audience laugh.
Entertainer: A person, such as a singer, dancer, or comedian, whose job is to entertain others.

You'd think the one having to do with comedy would be less strict and the one that can deal with astrophysics
and quantum physics would be a little more strict. It's easy to become an artist but being a comedian actually takes requirements.

Does anyone else find this a tad bit odd.


Where'd you get those definitions from? I'm confident there are definitions of "Artist" that aren't limited to producing paintings or drawings. The most odd thing is that you're trying to base your comparison on very limited definitions that aren't fully descriptive of the range of meaning those words actually have.
Posted 6/3/16

lorreen wrote:


ZavinRoyalheart wrote:

I could just study science on Wikipedia and technically be called a scientist and I can draw stickmen all day as a hobby and be called an artist because it fits in with the definition of scientist and artist.

Scientist: A person who is studying or has expert knowledge of one or more of the natural or physical sciences.
Artist: A person who produces paintings or drawings as a profession or hobby.

You can tell hilarious jokes and make people laugh all day but if it's not as a job you can't call yourself a comedian or an entertainer.
Comedian: An entertainer whose act is designed to make an audience laugh.
Entertainer: A person, such as a singer, dancer, or comedian, whose job is to entertain others.

You'd think the one having to do with comedy would be less strict and the one that can deal with astrophysics
and quantum physics would be a little more strict. It's easy to become an artist but being a comedian actually takes requirements.

Does anyone else find this a tad bit odd.


Where'd you get those definitions from? I'm confident there are definitions of "Artist" that aren't limited to producing paintings or drawings. The most odd thing is that you're trying to base your comparison on very limited definitions that aren't fully descriptive of the range of meaning those words actually have.


It's just the standard definition that pops up on Google. Apparently they want to mislead me because you're right that is a very limited definition.
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Posted 6/3/16
Yeah, those definitions are a bit too loose. Anyone calling themselves an artist that isn't making money from their art won't be taken too seriously, and anyone calling themselves a scientist while citing wiki articles risks getting laughed out of a room.
Posted 6/3/16

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Yeah, those definitions are a bit too loose. Anyone calling themselves an artist that isn't making money from their art won't be taken too seriously, and anyone calling themselves a scientist while citing wiki articles risks getting laughed out of a room.


That's weird because that's the oxford dictionary definition.


I think I like webster's definitions for these better. Artist covers all types of art and scientist only applies to a job. Wow Oxford definitions suck because webster's definition of comedian can just be a funny person who makes people laugh.

Also I'm going to have to disagree with you on artists and money. Plenty of great artists out there don't make money for their art.
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Posted 6/3/16 , edited 6/3/16

ZavinRoyalheart wrote:

Also I'm going to have to disagree with you on artists and money. Plenty of great artists out there don't make money for their art.


There are certainty plenty of talented artists around who do so as a hobby, but I don't consider them professional unless they do so at in part for a living.
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