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Let talk about Autonomous sensory meridian response (ASMR)
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What do you guys think about this? Still don't understand the purpose, if there is one. If we are talking about being at peace or mediation, then for me, listening to the ocean waves, brook, or river does me.

Do you like it or hate it? I have no opinion.

Do you think it sexual or not? The women and men in this selection had no effect.

Are you going to listen to more of it or no? No.

Did you knew about this or this is the first time you hear about it? I never knew about it until it was mention in another thread. This was my first time viewing ASMR video.

Which channels do you like and which you don't like? Like the massage video. I like to give massages and it provided some pointers. There were also two that were entertaining. The rest I did not like.

Is there anything surprising about this? Don't understand how Rick & George got on the playlist.

Should this be more popular or no? No.

How does this make you feel? No feelings.
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it doesn't give me tingles only makes me feel uncomfortable
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Well, having spotted this thread I just had a quick look at the literature available in regards to this 'ASMR' phenomenon. Suffice to say, there's very little in the way of any scientific studies to ascertain if ASMR is even real. At best, one theory proposes that ASMR is a form of synaesthesia, where the stimulation of one sense can result in sensory hallucinations elsewhere. Like how some people with rare neurological conditions claim that they can taste colours or see smells etc.

To that end, I must point out that these instances of synaesthesia are more or less unique to specific individuals, owing to the particular neurological structures of their brain. This means that any effort to artificially induce a form of synaesthesia amongst the general population could prove quite dangerous. When in effect you'd be trying to damage a perfectly healthy brain for the sake of achieving abnormal sensory inputs, akin to a stroke victim or epilepsy patient.

As such, I must offer word of caution to anyone seeking prolonged exposure to ASMR videos, with the intent of inducing synaesthesia upon themselves. These videos have not been prepared with any methodological understanding of how the brain works or with any consideration to what the long-term side effects could be. Perhaps ASMR is harmless, perhaps it isn't. At any rate, the lack of research on this subject for a practise that affects the brain on such a deep level should give people pause.
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What do you guys think about this?
Not sure how this became a thing.

Do you like it or hate it?
Dislike it.

Do you think it sexual or not?
Some of them certainly sound similar to the opening of a cheesy porn video.

Are you going to listen to more of it or no?
No.

Did you know about this or is this the first time you've heard about it?
Vaguely heard of it at some point.

Which channels do you like and which you don't like?
George Michael was by far the least unpleasant experience.
Heather Feather probably caused me to feel the least comfortable.

Is there anything surprising about this?
Rather than relaxing, I feel more like it's going to trigger an adrenal response. It sounds like someone I don't know is violating my personal space for a prolonged period and I can't see (no, the video doesn't count), smell, or feel them, etc.

Should this be more popular or no?
No.

How does this make you feel?
Uncomfortable, as I said. Most of my senses are telling me nobody is nearby, but it sounds like someone is very close and the discrepancy seems to make my fight-or-flight instincts have a mild freak out. It might work better if I were inebriated enough that my senses were all muddled to start with.
Posted 6/3/16

Kintor wrote:

Well, having spotted this thread I just had a quick look at the literature available in regards to this 'ASMR' phenomenon. Suffice to say, there's very little in the way of any scientific studies to ascertain if ASMR is even real. At best, one theory proposes that ASMR is a form of synaesthesia, where the stimulation of one sense can result in sensory hallucinations elsewhere. Like how some people with rare neurological conditions claim that they can taste colours or see smells etc.

To that end, I must point out that these instances of synaesthesia are more or less unique to specific individuals, owing to the particular neurological structures of their brain. This means that any effort to artificially induce a form of synaesthesia amongst the general population could prove quite dangerous. When in effect you'd be trying to damage a perfectly healthy brain for the sake of achieving abnormal sensory inputs, akin to a stroke victim or epilepsy patient.

As such, I must offer word of caution to anyone seeking prolonged exposure to ASMR videos, with the intent of inducing synaesthesia upon themselves. These videos have not been prepared with any methodological understanding of how the brain works or with any consideration to what the long-term side effects could be. Perhaps ASMR is harmless, perhaps it isn't. At any rate, the lack of research on this subject for a practise that affects the brain on such a deep level should give people pause.


I will find it hard to believe it will cause damage. Thought I seem scientists arguing over being good or bad. There one in the wiki link describing such scenario. Although one the videos cause me euphoria and make me feel like I was on the beach a night with strong winds.
Posted 6/3/16

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What do you guys think about this?
Not sure how this became a thing.

Do you like it or hate it?
Dislike it.

Do you think it sexual or not?
Some of them certainly sound similar to the opening of a cheesy porn video.

Are you going to listen to more of it or no?
No.

Did you know about this or is this the first time you've heard about it?
Vaguely heard of it at some point.

Which channels do you like and which you don't like?
George Michael was by far the least unpleasant experience.
Heather Feather probably caused me to feel the least comfortable.

Is there anything surprising about this?
Rather than relaxing, I feel more like it's going to trigger an adrenal response. It sounds like someone I don't know is violating my personal space for a prolonged period and I can't see (no, the video doesn't count), smell, or feel them, etc.

Should this be more popular or no?
No.

How does this make you feel?
Uncomfortable, as I said. Most of my senses are telling me nobody is nearby, but it sounds like someone is very close and the discrepancy seems to make my fight-or-flight instincts have a mild freak out. It might work better if I were inebriated enough that my senses were all muddled to start with.


I don't agree with your opinion but I do agree with somebody being close to me. The first few minutes feel uncomfortable yet I like it? This is weird to me.
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KarenAraragi wrote:

I will find it hard to believe it will cause damage. Thought I seem scientists arguing over being good or bad. There one in the wiki link describing such scenario. Although one the videos cause me euphoria and make me feel like I was on the beach a night with strong winds.

To elaborate on what I said before, watching one or two videos probably won't cause any harm... it's the long term exposure that’s concerning. Because you're essentially tricking yourself in very specific ways, overloading your brain with false sensory data, in order to create these hallucinations. Understand that the sensation of euphoria can itself be a hallucination, a way for the brain to protect the conscious mind from perceptions of harm when deep neurological damage occurs. This could be what's happening here with ASMR, the auditory equivalent of hitting yourself in the head with a hammer until the defence mechanisms of your brain masks the pain.
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KarenAraragi wrote:

I will find it hard to believe it will cause damage. Thought I seem scientists arguing over being good or bad. There one in the wiki link describing such scenario. Although one the videos cause me euphoria and make me feel like I was on the beach a night with strong winds.

To elaborate on what I said before, watching one or two videos probably won't cause any harm... it's the long term exposure that’s concerning. Because you're essentially tricking yourself in very specific ways, overloading your brain with false sensory data, in order to create these hallucinations. Understand that the sensation of euphoria can itself be a hallucination, a way for the brain to protect the conscious mind from perceptions of harm when deep neurological damage occurs. This could be what's happening here with ASMR, the auditory equivalent of hitting yourself in the head with a hammer until the defence mechanisms of your brain masks the pain.


What do you mean hallucinations? Because my hair did get up. Also, I did understand you the first time. Still need proof, though.
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If a woman is all up in my ear whispering in German I'm naturally going to have a sensory response, like



If she leaves, I'll be like "Nooooooo!" throw Nietzsche at her "READ IT!" I don't care what it says. I don't care about the dangers, baby. We don't need protection.
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Kintor wrote:
To elaborate on what I said before, watching one or two videos probably won't cause any harm... it's the long term exposure that’s concerning. Because you're essentially tricking yourself in very specific ways, overloading your brain with false sensory data, in order to create these hallucinations. Understand that the sensation of euphoria can itself be a hallucination, a way for the brain to protect the conscious mind from perceptions of harm when deep neurological damage occurs. This could be what's happening here with ASMR, the auditory equivalent of hitting yourself in the head with a hammer until the defence mechanisms of your brain masks the pain.


Wat.

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What do you mean hallucinations? Because my hair did get up. Also, I did understand you the first time. Still need proof, though.

I'm just talking about synaesthesia, where you imagine sensations that aren't actually physically possible. Like how ASMR can apparently make people think that they are being touched or that someone they can't see is whispering in their ear. None of this is actually happening but the sound of the recording (typically in conjunction with headphones) tricks parts of the brain into imagining these experiences. The brain doesn't understand the inputs it's receiving and tries to fill-in the gaps as best it can, resulting in these visceral hallucinations.
Posted 6/4/16

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KarenAraragi wrote:

What do you mean hallucinations? Because my hair did get up. Also, I did understand you the first time. Still need proof, though.

I'm just talking about synaesthesia, where you imagine sensations that aren't actually physically possible. Like how ASMR can apparently make people think that they are being touched or that someone they can't see is whispering in their ear. None of this is actually happening but the sound of the recording (typically in conjunction with headphones) tricks parts of the brain into imagining these experiences. The brain doesn't understand the inputs it's receiving and tries to fill-in the gaps as best it can, resulting in these visceral hallucinations.


Kind of like a sensory drug?
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Kintor wrote:
I'm just talking about synaesthesia, where you imagine sensations that aren't actually physically possible.


Synesthesia isn't an "imagined" sensation though. Its more like cross wired perception.

As for "tricking" the brain you could say that about virtually anything that involves headphones and/or immersion. The sensation that ASMR videos cause isn't unique to the videos. I find the videos relaxing in a similar way to a relaxation / guided meditation session. But they don't trigger an ASMR response for me. However, I recognize the description of the sensation and have experienced it from time to time before in response to relaxing situations.
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KarenAraragi wrote:

Kind of like a sensory drug?

I suppose calling ASMR a kind of drug is fair analogy. Although, there are still limits to the accuracy of that analogy compared to chemical drugs. I mean, not all drugs cause hallucinations like ASMR does. While on the other hand, it's decidedly unlikely that listening to lots of ASMR would suddenly cause you to drop dread. Still, that's not say ASMR is necessarily harmless in comparison; these sensory hallucinations can't be good for long term mental health.
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