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Posted 6/4/16 , edited 6/4/16
Also the fact that war simulation programs have been used by the U.S. military as mental/reflex training for decades now...

Like seriously, this still has no merit for people?
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I don't play a lot of e-sport games, but to me, regular sports are better because it doesn't give reason to be lazy, your more healthy and fit, and athletes might lose their jobs if e-sports get supported enough at ESPN.
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I was on a top 10 SOCOM team back when no one gave any shits about esports. I haven't really played a game in a competitive and organized manner since. My specialty was always more strategy, positioning, and tactics over mechanics. I had a high accuracy but that's mostly because I engaged in fights from a flanking position allowing me to pick them off without having to avoid return fire.

If I had a game I cared about at the same level and some people to play it with I would be all in. As a spectator I'm not too interested.
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MonkeyPirate wrote:

I don't play a lot of e-sport games, but to me, regular sports are better because it doesn't give reason to be lazy, your more healthy and fit, and athletes might lose their jobs if e-sports get supported enough at ESPN.


You know, I was going to post something really mean, but then I realized that you are just a kid.

No one is going to lose their jobs because esports is growing. If it becomes too large, ESPN will just create yet another channel to accommodate them. In fact, jobs may be created in the entertainment industry.

Secondly, video games are not a reason to be lazy any more than reading or chess is a reason to be lazy, and those have been around for a very very long time. People who want to exercise will do so regardless of their hobbies.

ALSO, you realize people like both video games AND athletics....right?
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Games are made to be played not watched...
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Rujikin wrote:

Games are made to be played not watched...


Yeah cause everyone plays football and no one simply watches.....
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In my mind, a sport requires athleticism. Anything else is a game.
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Posted 6/5/16

Najja_Mallace wrote:


Rujikin wrote:

Games are made to be played not watched...


Yeah cause everyone plays football and no one simply watches.....


Everyone that likes it should play it. Why watch when you can do it.
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Rujikin wrote:
Everyone that likes it should play it. Why watch when you can do it.
yeah, how I feel to.
But still some is entertainment or enjoyable to watch sometimes?
Either it being throwing, running or doing it very good in a game.

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Funny thing is, CS:GO is one of the few eSports that has literally 0 luck, if we exclude the random quality of teammates in matchmaking or other clients. Bullet spray patterns are extremely regular and as long as you aren't jumping around with an AWP, CS:GO's right up with SC2 in terms of skill to luck ratio. 'Random' enemy encounters can be predicted and at a pro level one should always be ready for it. If you wanna talk about luck in eSports, welcome to HearthStone.
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Luna_TGaP wrote:
Funny thing is, CS:GO is one of the few eSports that has literally 0 luck
yeah right...
almost anything has some luck, some more then others.

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Take it with a pinch of salt bro, you get the idea. Ok, so maybe you jump, spin your mouse 360 with your eyes closed and click, and get a triple kill. That's luck. But if you look at the game on a pro level, there is such a tiny amount of luck involved there might as well be none. If you type 9.9 (reoccurring) into your calculator and press enter, it'll say 10.

I guess all I'm trying to say is the best eSports have 'no' luck and that we can appreciate them to be on the same level as athletic sports because of it, if you have an open mind.
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Luna_TGaP wrote:
I guess all I'm trying to say is the best eSports have 'no' luck and that we can appreciate them to be on the same level as athletic sports because of it, if you have an open mind. :)
well more skill then luck is one thing.
they aren't on the same level its called Esport "a different type of sport" like motorsport etc.
so it isn't on the same level as athletic sports.
They are quite the 2 different things, some being trained up in and such.
Where in a game everyone could "play" but again there is a difference between a rookie and pro level.
But its much faster or easier to become a pro in a videogame then training over years for an very good athletic body or no chance at all.
As videogames can/could give a wider range of people the opportunities.

but there are more issues with games like lagg, tearing, breaking something and so on (while on those events I would think they are quite good on such and have dealt with the most things that could go wrong)
and cheating in any sport is quite as bad.
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I personally don't care about esports one way or another but if you enjoy them then more power to you. We all like different things and there's really no point in debating what constitutes a reals sport. Anything can be a sport to someone. Just do what you like doing and support the things you like. It really doesn't matter what others think.
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Freddy96NO wrote:


maxgale wrote:
Chess? Not a sport.
so you would call dart (or involving throwing stuff at a target similar to bow and arrow) not a sport too?
Its an activity that is similar in how much you have to then thinking about how you are going to place/throw the next shot.
Or did that hit a nerve?
to some other activites that is more or less the same as chess in how much you really need to do.
Bowling could be the "same" as football in how to know the field and feel home at it something similar for baseball.
Knowing every corner, turn, bump and how to get around how fast etc.






Darts? Not a sport.


Bowling? Not a sport.




TRKitsune wrote:


maxgale wrote:

It seems insulting to athletes to call video games a sport.


Hunting/Shooting is also a sport.

Careful aim, fast reflexes, accounting for environmental change, sounds similar to me.




Different level of athletic ability required.


Both a house pet and a tiger can be cats, but they aren't equal.




HolyDrumstick wrote:


maxgale wrote:

It seems insulting to athletes to call video games a sport.


First, I do not understand exactly why it would be considered insulting.

First, I feel like you do not understand the amount of sacrifice, coaching, practice, determination, skill, and talent that goes into becoming a successful professional esport player.

Also, this is based off the assumption that physically demanding tasks are more valued than mentally demanding tasks.

Additionally, it is called esport as a way to categorize the type of competitive play in a single word, and very few would argue that it is a sport in the same way that athletics are a sport.

Still....why it is somehow superior to be a professional football player over a professional competitive game player is beyond me. Especially with athletes such as this:

http://www.rantsports.com/clubhouse/2013/09/30/15-dumbest-professional-athletes-of-all-time-2/





The level of training and demand required of an athlete for their sport is vastly different than someone sitting around playing video games.


Also, you assume there are no mental tasks required in physical sports.
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