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I think e-sports have their place but they won't gain the popularity that current mainstream sports have. I also agree with some posters in this thread that say a sport should require an athletic ability. Maybe that's why they are categorized as e-sports and not just lumped into the sports category as a whole. I don't mind watching twitch sometimes but there are times when you can tell that the streamer is only interested in making money and that is when it starts to become a turn off to me. Obviously NBA players wouldn't be there without a paycheck but at the same time you don't see them asking for donations on the court either.
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I read this as Escorts first and was like, "Ohhhh.....'
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Nogara-san wrote:

I read this as Escorts first and was like, "Ohhhh.....'
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Ok time for sports 101 for most people who forget what is what when discussing (e-)sports

Remember what is considered a sport


This puts many things under the umbrella, Bowling, Darts, B-Ball, Soccer etc all the obvious and not so obvious choices.

Now this is where things get interesting


Whether people become competitive that's when dimensions begin to change, but not entirely. Most sports can become competitive in any capacity, casual or what not.

Now the final piece that is sometimes forgotten or actually lumped together with everything else


Whether which sports have professionals is rather tricky for the lesser popular sports, as the more mainstream sports are obvious since those guys are being paid in terms with the big millions. Rule of thumb if you're not sure look at people who are playing, if they're getting paid in some form and they consecutively play and get paid, they are a professional. These are the 3 things that most people lump together to create 'sports' in their head, they think physical competitive people getting paid to perform.

Now we take a look at esports


Are there professionals? Check
Are they competitive? Check
Is it a sport?

Well if we look back at what a sport is, it fills the criteria (in a loose way). Not sure if anyone has seen any competitive Starcraft 2 tournaments but those guys more often times than not are sweating bullets at how much exertion they have to put forth to keep up with their high APM. No doubt there's a lot of exertion going on, but it's not all wholly Physical as much as most other sports like Football or Tennis. If anyone didn't know either, the high competitive players in SC2 from what I last recalled had to have a physical regime. They had to keep in shape in order to be healthy and perform at a high level. This is just a tiny example though and it changes from game to game, though if you wanted to stick to the definition in pure, it only full fills half the sport criteria (considering there could be little physical exertion with exceptions) while capturing the competitive and professional portions perfectly.

People are getting paid to play at a really high caliber against another person or team to win money, they practice all the time and try to perfect strategies or perfect their ability to improvise their strategies if things go south. So now here is the criteria for 'e-sports'

Video game? check
Competitive? check
Professionals present? check

This is an e-sport, it's a new age sub genre of the traditional sports we know but it's just as legitimate as people are playing, practicing and getting paid to perform at a high level like they do in traditional sports. How much they are paid, how physical/mental doesn't matter entirely since different sports require different levels when you look at all the sports in general. Ok now you know have a nice day!!!!!!






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The level of training and demand required of an athlete for their sport is vastly different than someone sitting around playing video games.


Also, you assume there are no mental tasks required in physical sports.

Pretty much this is my opinion. A sport requires effort, not predetermined stats that you have memorized with a twitchy finger unlike a physical sport...sure you might know his throw speed or weight, but that guy can also predict you in turn to counter it. In most games its just hitpoints, damage, and who drops the fastest so its easy to just up your hitpoints and carry a big gun with decent armor or just avoid being shot (if its a tactical game, you pretty much planned ahead how you where going play it through)

tl;dr - Video games have to many predictable stats and patterns, humans themselves are unpredictable with known stats but its the human vs human element that makes physical sports more demanding. That and something about sitting in a chair insulting other people cause they don't perform at the same level makes me laugh, desk chair athletes are not exactly trying very hard by memorizing stats they know how to abuse and bump up their game stats easily to please the ego. Your good at a game, so are bed ridden fat people that weigh 2-3 times the average male with a remote control for the television could have the same reflex speed in channel changing
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Freddy96NO wrote:


Rujikin wrote:
Everyone that likes it should play it. Why watch when you can do it.
yeah, how I feel to.
But still some is entertainment or enjoyable to watch sometimes?
Either it being throwing, running or doing it very good in a game.



I can't stand it. Why watch others do stuff when I can do it myself. The only exception I have ever found is Mass Effect because the thing plays like a movie.
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Pretty much this is my opinion. A sport requires effort, not predetermined stats that you have memorized with a twitchy finger unlike a physical sport...sure you might know his throw speed or weight, but that guy can also predict you in turn to counter it. In most games its just hitpoints, damage, and who drops the fastest so its easy to just up your hitpoints and carry a big gun with decent armor or just avoid being shot (if its a tactical game, you pretty much planned ahead how you where going play it through)

tl;dr - Video games have to many predictable stats and patterns, humans themselves are unpredictable with known stats but its the human vs human element that makes physical sports more demanding. That and something about sitting in a chair insulting other people cause they don't perform at the same level makes me laugh, desk chair athletes are not exactly trying very hard by memorizing stats they know how to abuse and bump up their game stats easily to please the ego. Your good at a game, so are bed ridden fat people that weigh 2-3 times the average male with a remote control for the television could have the same reflex speed in channel changing


Lmfao. Someone hasn't seen Korea.



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Why do people watch sports instead of play them? Anyone can get good at sports with practice.

Please check out Jeremy Lin, professional NBA player and E-Sports enthusiast.

My game of choice is DotA. Playing Pudge and watching Dendi play Pudge are on whole different levels. I do not watch a lot of the professional matches, mainly just the international, but I do buy the compendiums every year to support the E-Sports idea.

Watch the free movie, "Free to Play"(available for free with a free Steam download if you can't find it anywhere else). Professional E-Sports teams in Korea give pep talks to the professional sports teams, as the E-Sports are more popular.

I believe E-Sports is legit, as professional League of Legends players can get the special professional athlete passports now. LoL is more popular (maybe the most popular?) than most other games.

I do not believe E-Sports will eclipse Sports, at least in the US, because there are too many people that still believe playing video games (and watching anime) is only for kids. Other countries are more forward thinking and will make the change before the US does. It will be a LONG time before something like RocketJump's VGHS comes to pass.
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Onbusy wrote:
Anyone can get good at sports with practice.


this... is so not true
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Sogno- wrote:
this... is so not true
*finds the lasagna*

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Nogara-san wrote:


Freddy96NO wrote:


Nogara-san wrote:

I read this as Escorts first and was like, "Ohhhh.....'
Male escort?



"Escort service is ready for deployment!"


You offering?


With you girl! Those guys are hot! Where do I sign up?
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With you girl! Those guys are hot! Where do I sign up?
damn it.. I think this will go to another sport then esport...

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