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Posted 7/1/16 , edited 7/1/16
I used to use bit defender antivirus and firewall as they are one of the best.

Now I'm on Linux and just enable my firewall, its free and works better than any windows firewall. All incoming requests are blocked except for a few exceptions I put in so nothing gets in without me requesting it. I have clamav, free as well, so I can scan USB drives and prevent accidentally giving a windows user a virus; however, its unlike windows anti viruses in the sense that it doesn't run in the background, no need to, and is only ran on demand. None of my stuff slows down my PC and since its Linux viruses need permission + executable access to even run so even if I downloaded a virus it won't activate without me activating it.

I don't feel safe browsing Google on windows anymore since I started using Linux. Its so hard for hackers or viruses to attack Linux that most people don't even bother writing viruses for it and when an exploit is found it gets fixed quickly instead of a year later with windows.
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I used to use bit defender antivirus and firewall as they are one of the best.

Now I'm on Linux and just enable my firewall, its free and works better than any windows firewall. All incoming requests are blocked except for a few exceptions I put in so nothing gets in without me requesting it. I have clamav, free as well, so I can scan USB drives and prevent accidentally giving a windows user a virus; however, its unlike windows anti viruses in the sense that it doesn't run in the background, no need to, and is only ran on demand. None of my stuff slows down my PC and since its Linux viruses need permission + executable access to even run so even if I downloaded a virus it won't activate without me activating it.

I don't feel safe browsing Google on windows anymore since I started using Linux. Its so hard for hackers or viruses to attack Linux that most people don't even bother writing viruses for it and when an exploit is found it gets fixed quickly instead of a year later with windows.


Install Gentoo?
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Posted 7/2/16

Radraymond01 wrote:


Rujikin wrote:

I used to use bit defender antivirus and firewall as they are one of the best.

Now I'm on Linux and just enable my firewall, its free and works better than any windows firewall. All incoming requests are blocked except for a few exceptions I put in so nothing gets in without me requesting it. I have clamav, free as well, so I can scan USB drives and prevent accidentally giving a windows user a virus; however, its unlike windows anti viruses in the sense that it doesn't run in the background, no need to, and is only ran on demand. None of my stuff slows down my PC and since its Linux viruses need permission + executable access to even run so even if I downloaded a virus it won't activate without me activating it.

I don't feel safe browsing Google on windows anymore since I started using Linux. Its so hard for hackers or viruses to attack Linux that most people don't even bother writing viruses for it and when an exploit is found it gets fixed quickly instead of a year later with windows.


Install Gentoo?


Why? I got mint.
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I use Vipre Internet Security. Don't rely on Windows freeware (i.e. windows defender and firewall) They detect and block little if anything. And it doesn't matter where you go on the internet. If you are online your device is constantly being pinged by opportunistic malware.
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Avast Internet Security & Advanced System Care Pro.
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Mcafee. Only 50 bucks a year.
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I use a chromebook as my primary computer; all that anti-virus/malware software is built into Chrome OS and automatically updates. Nice, no nonsense little device.
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Posted 7/2/16

Rujikin wrote:


Radraymond01 wrote:


Rujikin wrote:

I used to use bit defender antivirus and firewall as they are one of the best.

Now I'm on Linux and just enable my firewall, its free and works better than any windows firewall. All incoming requests are blocked except for a few exceptions I put in so nothing gets in without me requesting it. I have clamav, free as well, so I can scan USB drives and prevent accidentally giving a windows user a virus; however, its unlike windows anti viruses in the sense that it doesn't run in the background, no need to, and is only ran on demand. None of my stuff slows down my PC and since its Linux viruses need permission + executable access to even run so even if I downloaded a virus it won't activate without me activating it.

I don't feel safe browsing Google on windows anymore since I started using Linux. Its so hard for hackers or viruses to attack Linux that most people don't even bother writing viruses for it and when an exploit is found it gets fixed quickly instead of a year later with windows.


Install Gentoo?


Why? I got mint.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjGSMUep6_4
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Posted 7/2/16

Radraymond01 wrote:


Rujikin wrote:


Radraymond01 wrote:


Rujikin wrote:

I used to use bit defender antivirus and firewall as they are one of the best.

Now I'm on Linux and just enable my firewall, its free and works better than any windows firewall. All incoming requests are blocked except for a few exceptions I put in so nothing gets in without me requesting it. I have clamav, free as well, so I can scan USB drives and prevent accidentally giving a windows user a virus; however, its unlike windows anti viruses in the sense that it doesn't run in the background, no need to, and is only ran on demand. None of my stuff slows down my PC and since its Linux viruses need permission + executable access to even run so even if I downloaded a virus it won't activate without me activating it.

I don't feel safe browsing Google on windows anymore since I started using Linux. Its so hard for hackers or viruses to attack Linux that most people don't even bother writing viruses for it and when an exploit is found it gets fixed quickly instead of a year later with windows.


Install Gentoo?


Why? I got mint.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjGSMUep6_4


So gen too will teach me how to dance? Fascinating.
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I use AVG and CCleaner.
To be honest people here brag about knowing what there doing but.. Everyone's PC has spyware and shit on it its just minimizing how much you get.

AVG takes care of all my virus needs quickly and fluidly and CCleaner cleans everything else up a bit.
I do use spoybot search and destroy here and there just for meh
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Advanced system care a year for 3 computers is only like 20$
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Used to use Norton then AVG, they never picked up any virus's over the years so I just use the integrated Windows scanner what ever it's called now. I found the newer (trial) versions of Norton just too intrusive and attention seeking and resource hungry.
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Posted 7/3/16 , edited 7/3/16
Wow. Seriously. Wow.

People still use on-access virus scanners.

Why not use fifty at the same time? Without installing any of them?

Go get process explorer from microsoft.
https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/processexplorer.aspx

Go into the options menu.
Go into the Virustotal.com menu.
Checkmark "Check Virustotal.com".
A dialog will pop up the first time, asking you to accept virustotal's terms of service.
It will redirect your browser to their terms of service page. Read it or don't, then close the tab, and go back to process explorer.
Go back to the virustotal.com menu, and checkmark 'Submit unknown executables'.

How does this work? Process Explorer will take a SHA1 hash of the running .exe, and submit that hash to virustotal, and return the count of virus scanners that processed the file, and how many didn't like the file.

Checkmarking 'submit unknown executables' will, as the description says, submit an executable if virustotal reports that it has never been scanned before.

JUST BECAUSE VIRUSTOTAL HAS *A* VIRUS SCANNER OR TWO THAT THINKS A FILE IS 'SUSPICIOUS' DOES NOT MEAN IT IS DANGEROUS.

http://puu.sh/pOMRM/7bcb1dd048.png

You can see here that virustotal thinks steam.exe is suspicious, with 1/55 . If you click that, you'll be taken to the virustotal page on that file.

https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/8f63147eed8ccd5ce076491c78559ecb1a3953769f56b3191167e6c549ce8129/analysis/

You can see that none of the virus scanners declared it suspicious, but some random jerk user voted it 'malicious'.

Here is an example of a submission that has no doubt of being malicious (The "Locky" cryptolocker ransomware):
https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/17c3d74e3c0645edb4b5145335b342d2929c92dff856cca1a5e79fa5d935fec2/analysis/

On the other hand, this is a harmless keygenerator tool's report:
https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/f54d1cfc816e1a78d2c4edfe85a2d14064dfb796a3f7e67f8420a7b29219a3e3/analysis/


Tip #2:
Get rid of your old junky .zip program! (Unless you *PAID* for winrar... or you know what a solid archive is and what 5% recovery data means)

Go get 7-zip!
http://www.7-zip.org/
Once you have it installed, to create the file associations, open the start menu, find it, right click it, 'run as administrator'.
Edit menu, Options. Press the right hand + button to have 7zip take over for all the types of compressed files it can handle.
http://puu.sh/pONjT/a3bf803d7f.png


It opens up and extracts almost every kind of archive there is, including compressed .EXE files...
http://puu.sh/pONFA/4a4bc3550f.png

And self extracting EXEs...

But the biggest help?
http://puu.sh/pONrC/05624ac2c5.png

If you look inside an .exe, you should find a "CERTIFICATE" entry, if it has been signed by someone.

The biggest source of malware? Some twerp wrapping a safe .exe with a malware dropping wrapper.
You double click it, you get the scary yellow box:
http://puu.sh/pONfU/7e93c43505.png

instead of the box you should normally be expecting (when a program runs as an admin user)
http://puu.sh/pONhT/75af5ba7e1.png


Tip #3: Cleaning up old windows patches...
Go get patchcleaner, and have it move all the orphaned windows update patches (lots of old MSoffice gunk builds up!) out to some other folder. Sometimes 20-30GB worth if your PC's been running for a couple years.
http://www.homedev.com.au/free/patchcleaner

Havn't gotten updates in a while? Got problems getting windows updates?
Windows update says you haven't gotten a patch since 2014 or 2015?
Computer's really slow, svchost.exe uses lots of CPU in task manager?
http://superuser.com/a/997067/288614
Follow the instructions here to manually kick windowsupdate in the groin and get it working again.

Google chrome is honestly my personal choice for a browser, mainly due to the auto-update mechanism, and the extensions I have.
Adblocker: UBlock Origin: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/ublock-origin/cjpalhdlnbpafiamejdnhcphjbkeiagm?hl=en
Connection Blocker (Warning, hard to configure!) UMatrix: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/umatrix/ogfcmafjalglgifnmanfmnieipoejdcf?hl=en
Social Network Widget Blocker: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/disconnect/jeoacafpbcihiomhlakheieifhpjdfeo?hl=en
Cookie Control/Blocker: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/privacy-badger/pkehgijcmpdhfbdbbnkijodmdjhbjlgp?hl=en

*DO NOT ALLOW ADVERTISEMENTS ON YOUR SYSTEM.*

Even the big advertising networks like Yahoo screw up and allow malicious ads to be served to innocent users from time to time.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/08/27/malvertising_feature/

That cryptolocker I mentioned earlier in the virustotal stuff?
http://arstechnica.com/security/2016/03/big-name-sites-hit-by-rash-of-malicious-ads-spreading-crypto-ransomware/
Spread through ad banners from visiting New york times, BBC, AOL, MSN.

And this isn't new, it's been happening for years, and only been getting publicity more recently.
http://www.wired.com/insights/2014/11/malvertising-is-cybercriminals-latest-sweet-spot/

It doesn't matter who begs you, yells at you, threatens you, or claims they'll sue you.

DO NOT TURN OFF YOUR ADVERTISEMENT BLOCKER FOR *ANY* SITE.

You own your computer. It is your property. You and you alone are responsible for making decisions on what executes on your processor, consuming your electricity and your internet/cellular bandwidth.

Some sites will allow you to compensate them some other way, like crunchyroll's premium.
Do them a favor and pay for the bandwidth you consume.

If you actually use today's development tools to measure some 'average' webpages, you'll find that the advertising content ends up to be somewhere between one and ten megabytes, while the actual text you wanted to read in the page is only 4-5 kilobytes, with another 40KB of CSS, half megabyte of jquery and javascript code to make the menu dance, and a megabyte or two of site images (which your browser will cache and reuse if given half a chance).

Server bandwidth costs money, and those advertising companies need to recoup the costs of serving you those ads.
But here's the thing... Just like anything, in bulk, it's cheap.

If you colocate a server computer at hurricane electric's data center in california, you can easily get an 'unmetered' 1 gigabit ethernet connection right to a backbone switch on the heart of the internet for only a few hundred dollars a month. That's 9.82 TiB/day!
Way different than your average comcast consumer with a 250GB limit (If it's even enforced in your area) per month, or a verizon 4G customer with 6GB/mo! You could be paying the same price for a high performance server as you would a heavily abused smartphone plan.

As someone who hosts websites myself; I much prefer incoming 'donations' via microtransactions to accepting dirty advertising revenue.
(Also, click-fraud on advertisements means y'don't even really make much money at all for an impression... Google 'alladvantage.com' if you want to have a laugh at how far we've come.)

Good luck out there. Stay safe. Stay frosty.

And if all else fails... Boot linux from USB!
https://github.com/kamilion/kamikazi-core
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Posted 7/3/16 , edited 7/3/16
I download the free trial of Kaspersky if I think something is awry. It never is.
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Nothing, i know where I should be and what is potentially dangerous. Not all anti-virus do their jobs well, and they're a hassle.
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