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However, change the premise of the IQ test ever so slightly and suddenly the application will never be able to solve it. IQ implies the possibility to self-alter your thinking.
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nanikore2 wrote:

However, intelligence does not equal consciousness. There isn't, and never going to be, artificial consciousness. I can elaborate on it but that would be off topic.



If you think of humanity far in the future, or something like advanced civilizations from other planets; if you think in terms of 'sci-fi meets reality', maybe beings can create AIs with consciousness, maybe it is possible...it is just that humans, as we are today, are so far from such a thing and don't know how to accomplish that with science and technology.

Just thinking outside the box, I guess.
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Dubnoman wrote:


nanikore2 wrote:

However, intelligence does not equal consciousness. There isn't, and never going to be, artificial consciousness. I can elaborate on it but that would be off topic.



If you think of humanity far in the future, or something like advanced civilizations from other planets; if you think in terms of 'sci-fi meets reality', maybe beings can create AIs with consciousness, maybe it is possible...it is just that humans, as we are today, are so far from such a thing and don't know how to accomplish that with science and technology.

Just thinking outside the box, I guess.


don't even start she/he is stuck with their opinion and even if flaws are pointed out it won't matter.

just accept their opinion and move on save yourself the headache
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WhyattThrash wrote:

However, change the premise of the IQ test ever so slightly and suddenly the application will never be able to solve it. IQ implies the possibility to self-alter your thinking.


exactly. IQ is related to your ability to come up with a solution not the ability to remember a set formula to instantly solve it for you.

Remember those little IQ peg games they have at some family restaurants? Their IQ score only counts if you actually figure out the solution going in blind. If your friend told you a trick to solving them then even if you solve it perfectly it says nothing about your IQ.


So for a computer to have an IQ it would have to be so complex that it had the ability to self evolve and come up with new solutions outside of what it already knows. But whether that is even possible isn't known as all we've been able to do is just make them run through calculations and programs faster and faster. But no matter how fast they get they can still only do what we tell them and nothing else.
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idk about iq, but computer has advanced to the point they can now defeat any human in chess and go.
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nanikore2 wrote:

Intelligence is measured ability to solve various problems.

We have artificial intelligence that could exceed natural intelligence at various tasks, simply because machines can use brute processing speed (brute force) to outrun human problem solving.

However, intelligence does not equal consciousness. There isn't, and never going to be, artificial consciousness. I can elaborate on it but that would be off topic.


I wouldn't say never. I mean, they said we'd never use 1GB of storage or RAM in our PCs and we're using multiples of TB nowadays for storage and the average PC has 16GB of RAM.
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Laura_Bodewig wrote:


nanikore2 wrote:

Intelligence is measured ability to solve various problems.

We have artificial intelligence that could exceed natural intelligence at various tasks, simply because machines can use brute processing speed (brute force) to outrun human problem solving.

However, intelligence does not equal consciousness. There isn't, and never going to be, artificial consciousness. I can elaborate on it but that would be off topic.


I wouldn't say never. I mean, they said we'd never use 1GB of storage or RAM in our PCs and we're using multiples of TB nowadays for storage and the average PC has 16GB of RAM.


Don't even enter this argument i have warned you just because he is supposedly an engineer he knows 100% that it's impossible.

Just shake your head and move on for your own sake!
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Obviously zero. Think of a computer as a human brain with a set amount of memory working at an incredible speed. Much like even animals can be taught to do something they don't understand through repetition, computers simply regurgitate knowledge, knowing nothing themselves. Just try getting into computer science to learn how lacking in intelligence computers are. I find AI's make a mockery of real intelligence. If an IQ test is simply testing your ability to repeat knowledge, then I guess computers are smart.
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0, they do exactly what they are told and nothing more.
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GotenLoooovesCorn wrote:

Obviously zero. Think of a computer as a human brain with a set amount of memory working at an incredible speed. Much like even animals can be taught to do something they don't understand through repetition, computers simply regurgitate knowledge, knowing nothing themselves. Just try getting into computer science to learn how lacking in intelligence computers are. I find AI's make a mockery of real intelligence. If an IQ test is simply testing your ability to repeat knowledge, then I guess computers are smart.


This makes the most sense. Okay, I think I get it now.
Posted 6/8/16
Most people would say 0. How some of these computers and printers act, you have to wonder if their just playing ignorant.
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Higher than my own IQ
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Ryulightorb wrote:


Dubnoman wrote:


nanikore2 wrote:

However, intelligence does not equal consciousness. There isn't, and never going to be, artificial consciousness. I can elaborate on it but that would be off topic.



If you think of humanity far in the future, or something like advanced civilizations from other planets; if you think in terms of 'sci-fi meets reality', maybe beings can create AIs with consciousness, maybe it is possible...it is just that humans, as we are today, are so far from such a thing and don't know how to accomplish that with science and technology.

Just thinking outside the box, I guess.


don't even start she/he is stuck with their opinion and even if flaws are pointed out it won't matter.

just accept their opinion and move on save yourself the headache


...If only all philosophical debates and logical proofs can be turned away with a simple "she/he is stuck with their opinion".

Proofs have nothing to do with opinion.

"Entitled to opinion" Logical fallacy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I%27m_entitled_to_my_opinion

As I've said, if people actually want me to elaborate on the issue I can do so in another thread.
Posted 6/8/16

Jackalope82 wrote:

Most people would say 0. How some of these computers and printers act, you have to wonder if their just playing ignorant.


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