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Posted 6/9/16
So basically if you didn't know everyone in Britain is voting on the June 23th to either stay "In" or "Out" the EU. (if you don't know what the EU is heres an article to tell you about it- http://www.bbc.co.uk/guides/zgjwtyc) Me and my family are voting for "Out" so i just wanted to know if you guys are voting or you thoughts about this topic
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Out.
Dont like the way it is organized.
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Well I'm not to deep into british politics but I don't really get why Out would be good. Wouldn't it just make it harder to trade with other european countries whitch would give a negative impact on the econnomy in the near future?
Then again I don't know to much about british poitics.
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CatLazer wrote:

Well I'm not to deep into british politics but I don't really get why Out would be good. Wouldn't it just make it harder to trade with other european countries whitch would give a negative impact on the econnomy in the near future?
Then again I don't know to much about british poitics.


Leaving the EU would result in an immediate cost saving, as the country would no longer contribute to the EU budget. Last year, Britain paid in £13bn, but it also received £4.5bn worth of spending. Also Britain will move outside the EU’s single market and instead join “Bosnia, Serbia, Albania and Ukraine” in a European free-trade zone if voters choose Brexit in June’s referendum.

The pro-Brexit justice secretary for the first time confirmed that the Leave camp did not want Britain to remain part of the EU’s tariff-free bloc of 500m consumers in which British-based banks can trade under a “passport” scheme. He insisted the UK’s financial services sector would “thrive” in this new environment. He said Britain would forge its own deal with the EU, but said that a continent-wide free-trade area — embracing a wide range of bilateral deals — would “be the core of our new arrangement”.
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Isolationism has never been a policy of success. There is absolutely no guarantee that any of these other planned agreements will ever pan out and the costs grossly outweigh the benefits. All costs are real and understood, all benefits theoretical save a few.

Even if they did leave joining again would be inevitable and leave them in a weaker future position. Yes, immigrants and bureaucracy are great targets for popular action but seldom do they make a solid future plan.
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Voting for out would result in a 2-3 year discussion about the trades and other things, then after that you will be out. But the funny side is, you will never be free from Europe anyway. There is a reason why most buisnesses are promoting pro-EU, you can not hold your own alone in the market, European products will always be cheaper and our technical finess always better for the world to aquire. If you love your land, you should defintly vote pro-EU else it will be a shock for the future generations that have to deal with your stupidity.
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The answer lies within a question ironically. That is, "Would Britain join the EU as it is today?" It might've been good back in the mid 1900s, but things change over time, also what kind of path is it taking and how will Britain be affected is another question. The answers to those should be the primary decision making factor for whether in or out is better for the citizens of Great Britain.
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Posted 6/9/16

shugotenshi-atm wrote:

Isolationism has never been a policy of success. There is absolutely no guarantee that any of these other planned agreements will ever pan out and the costs grossly outweigh the benefits. All costs are real and understood, all benefits theoretical save a few.

Even if they did leave joining again would be inevitable and leave them in a weaker future position. Yes, immigrants and bureaucracy are great targets for popular action but seldom do they make a solid future plan.


Once we leave the EU we can never enter it again I think
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I don't have a horse in this dog and cat show, but some of the responses so far can be said to be concerning and act as overwhelming evidence that the UK should break off with the EU.
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shugotenshi-atm wrote:

Isolationism has never been a policy of success. There is absolutely no guarantee that any of these other planned agreements will ever pan out and the costs grossly outweigh the benefits. All costs are real and understood, all benefits theoretical save a few.

Even if they did leave joining again would be inevitable and leave them in a weaker future position. Yes, immigrants and bureaucracy are great targets for popular action but seldom do they make a solid future plan.


Once we leave the EU we can never enter it again I think


That's just a bargaining chip. You don't seriously think a nation as important as the UK would be forever banned from their native alliance? Poppycock.

The important part about laws is you can't bind future lawmakers by previous laws. They can change laws that affect changing circumstances. Even if they did actually ban the UK , absolutely nothing stops them from changing that rule later.
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Posted 6/9/16

shugotenshi-atm wrote:


Razzalax wrote:


shugotenshi-atm wrote:

Isolationism has never been a policy of success. There is absolutely no guarantee that any of these other planned agreements will ever pan out and the costs grossly outweigh the benefits. All costs are real and understood, all benefits theoretical save a few.

Even if they did leave joining again would be inevitable and leave them in a weaker future position. Yes, immigrants and bureaucracy are great targets for popular action but seldom do they make a solid future plan.


Once we leave the EU we can never enter it again I think


That's just a bargaining chip. You don't seriously think a nation as important as the UK would be forever banned from their native alliance? Poppycock.

The important part about laws is you can't bind future lawmakers by previous laws. They can change laws that affect changing circumstances. Even if they did actually ban the UK , absolutely nothing stops them from changing that rule later.


Poppylock? Anyway right now we are under the laws of the EU , if we break off we will have our own laws
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Laws which can be changed. Also EU laws are more limited in scope. You always have your own laws even if in the EU.
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Posted 6/9/16 , edited 6/10/16
Leave the EU and join NAFTA! 2/3 of us were your former colonies and we already come to each others aid without being in a useless little union. All we want is your trade monies!
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Posted 6/9/16 , edited 6/9/16
Meh, doesn't matter how hard I try I just can't force myself to care about it. I don't live in Britain but I live in the EU. I know I should care at least a little bit but I don't.
Will it be hard for both, the EU and Britain if people vote for out? Yes.
Will the EU fall apart? Will Britain be completely ruined? Will people starve to death because of it? Will there be a war between Britain and the EU? No.

It's a democratic country. The decision will be made by the people living in it. If they want to stay, fine. If they want to leave, goodbye and good luck.

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Posted 6/9/16
I've decided not to vote, not out of lack of caring but due to our voting papers not having an abstain option. After looking at both sides I've found many positives and negatives and really can't decide on either one over the other, I just hope whatever decision is reached it ends up benefiting us instead of harming us.
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