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Posted 6/9/16 , edited 6/16/16

MacabreLlama99 wrote:

I've decided not to vote, not out of lack of caring but due to our voting papers not having an abstain option. After looking at both sides I've found many positives and negatives and really can't decide on either one over the other, I just hope whatever decision is reached it ends up benefiting us instead of harming us.


The traditional method for resolving that is to go out and ask someone in the street what they'd vote for, and then vote against them.
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Posted 6/9/16
As much as it would effect someone like me (I'm I guess till quite young), I can't vote. So that sucks. I think I'd vote out if I could though, after all, the European Union is where countries that hate each other try and play nice anyway.
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I'm torn. I like the idea of a united Europe, but it means we Brits can't continue our age old hobby of invading and beating France.
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It's up to the people from the UK to decide if they want to stay or leave to EU. But personally I would be disappointed if the UK should decide to leave. It’s definitely clear that the EU has to change to become less bureaucratic, nobody can deny that. But deciding to leave altogether seems somewhat extreme to me. They are doing some positive things too, like lowering the roaming costs within the EU for instance.

It’s also somewhat contradicting. People blame the EU for instance that the immigrant crisis isn’t solved quickly enough and at the same time they want to hold back the EU because they are scared to lose their sovereignty. Well, what do they actually expect from the EU in the first place?


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Once we leave the EU we can never enter it again I think

I can hardly believe that. I'm positive that the EU would allow the UK to join again. But most likely the UK won't receive those current opt-outs any more like for the euro and free movement. So I don't think the people from the UK would rejoin soon anyway.
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Get out while you still can! Before Germany revokes the privilegia! After that you will just be the German Isles



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Get out while you still can! Before Germany revokes the privilegia! After that you will just be the German Isles



a bit racist don't you think??
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Posted 6/9/16

Razzalax wrote:


Rujikin wrote:

Get out while you still can! Before Germany revokes the privilegia! After that you will just be the German Isles



a bit racist don't you think??


But Germans are white. I can't be racist against whites!

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Posted 6/9/16

Rujikin wrote:


Razzalax wrote:


Rujikin wrote:

Get out while you still can! Before Germany revokes the privilegia! After that you will just be the German Isles



a bit racist don't you think??


But Germans are white. I can't be racist against whites!


ok ok ok xD
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I hope the Brits leave and with that the EU falls apart. I'd vote for Germany to leave too, but we ain't enough of a democracy to be allowed to vote for jack shit.
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UK will lose a lot financially if they leave, so will most of Europe since most EU states loses one of their biggest trade partners if they leave. Just like the UK losses their biggest trade partner other EU members

However leaving the EU seems to be the smart choice right now considering the fucks in the EU wants to make TTIP a thing, only germany and france are against it
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Posted 6/9/16

Razzalax wrote:


shugotenshi-atm wrote:


Razzalax wrote:


shugotenshi-atm wrote:

Isolationism has never been a policy of success. There is absolutely no guarantee that any of these other planned agreements will ever pan out and the costs grossly outweigh the benefits. All costs are real and understood, all benefits theoretical save a few.

Even if they did leave joining again would be inevitable and leave them in a weaker future position. Yes, immigrants and bureaucracy are great targets for popular action but seldom do they make a solid future plan.


Once we leave the EU we can never enter it again I think


That's just a bargaining chip. You don't seriously think a nation as important as the UK would be forever banned from their native alliance? Poppycock.

The important part about laws is you can't bind future lawmakers by previous laws. They can change laws that affect changing circumstances. Even if they did actually ban the UK , absolutely nothing stops them from changing that rule later.


Poppylock? Anyway right now we are under the laws of the EU , if we break off we will have our own laws


You know the UK still has their own laws, right? Just like every other member state
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I don't really have a dog in this fight, but I just thought I'd drop off an interesting blog post I found on the subject before I go on my merry way.

Yeah, I know its Tumblr, but the author seems to have an idea what she's talking about, so at the very least it might be a worth it as conversation piece.

http://vands88.tumblr.com/post/144819381831/dear-young-british-people
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TheOmegaForce70941 wrote:


Razzalax wrote:


shugotenshi-atm wrote:


Razzalax wrote:


shugotenshi-atm wrote:

Isolationism has never been a policy of success. There is absolutely no guarantee that any of these other planned agreements will ever pan out and the costs grossly outweigh the benefits. All costs are real and understood, all benefits theoretical save a few.

Even if they did leave joining again would be inevitable and leave them in a weaker future position. Yes, immigrants and bureaucracy are great targets for popular action but seldom do they make a solid future plan.


Once we leave the EU we can never enter it again I think


That's just a bargaining chip. You don't seriously think a nation as important as the UK would be forever banned from their native alliance? Poppycock.

The important part about laws is you can't bind future lawmakers by previous laws. They can change laws that affect changing circumstances. Even if they did actually ban the UK , absolutely nothing stops them from changing that rule later.


Poppylock? Anyway right now we are under the laws of the EU , if we break off we will have our own laws


You know the UK still has their own laws, right? Just like every other member state


Then why is the law for kettles to be less powerful coming in to all countries in the EU?
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Posted 6/9/16
https://m.reddit.com/r/polandball/comments/2onq4h/contest_thread_britain_pleays_stay/

Here's a whole page of reasons why the UK should stay in the EU.




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Posted 6/9/16
I'm casually on the side of "Out", but a fairly major reworking of the UK's place in the EU would probably accomplish similar goals (unfortunately, I don't think that is quite as likely)
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