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This is the first "real" lesson in grammar!

The Japanese(and korean) have a strange way of communicating what is "this, that".

The easy one is "This"

This dog
Kono Inu
This cat
Kono neko

Kono is used in conjunction with a noun to say,"This dog or, this cat"

When it is not used in conjunction with a noun, you use, "Kore"

What is this?
Kore wa nan desu ka? (nan/nani means "what") (ka implies a question)
This is a cat!
Kore wa neko desu!


The harder one is "That"

There are two types of "That" in Japanese. (Are/Ano, Sore/Sono)

Situation One

You're sitting in a room with a friend. You look out the window and spot a furry little cat. You poke your friend, and shout,

Look at that cat (azumanga daioh fever)
Ano neko wo mite!

Again, "ano" is used right before a noun, so you use the "that" version that ends with an "o"
but when you don't use it with a noun.

What is that?!
Are wa nani?!

Verdict: You use Are/Ano when the person you are conversing with is realtively close to you, and the object/person/cat you're pointing out happens to be relatively far away.

Situation Two

You're sitting in a room with a friend. You are sitting on the bed, and your friend is sitting in a chair relatively far from you. You spot a cat that walks in and sits itself down on your friend's lap. You are very excited, and you point out the obvious to your friend.

Look at that cat!
sono neko wo mite!

Again, "sono" is used right before a noun, so you use the "that" version that ends with an "o"
but when you don't use it with a noun.

What is that?!
Sore wa nani?!

Verdict: You use Sore/Sono when the person you are conversing with is relatively far away from you, but the object/person/cat you're pointing out is close to the person you are conversing with.


SUMMARY
The only difference is that Kono/ano/sono is used WITH nouns.
Kono baka
kono neko
ano inu
ano CD
kono/ano/sono + noun

Kore/sore/are is rougly translated into "This thing".

kore wa neko desu
this(thing) is a cat
sore wa inu desu
that(thing) is a dog
are wa nan desu ka?
what is that(thing)?
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I don't understand what the difference between sore and sono is
and the difference between are and ano?
where do you use each one in a sentence?

anywayy! this was helpful! please continue!
LOL! I'm an english-speaking korean who feels like they should be born into a japanese family~
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ahh, so you don't understand korean? It's a lot easier to teach you this concept through korean.

the difference between kore/kono are/ano is that there is no difference in meaning!

The only difference is that Kono/ano/sono is used WITH nouns.
Kono baka
kono neko
ano inu
ano CD
kono/ano/sono + noun

Kore/sore/are is used on every other situation

kore wa neko desu
this is a cat
sore wa inu desu
that is a dog
are wa nan desu ka?
what is that?

Please ask more questions This is how you learn!
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yea, I pretty much know korean.
I can read everything and understand most of the words (except a few)
my parents told me japanese was similar to korean, but...

I think I just need help with the kanji stuff and like otherr stuff, I guess.

OH, and I get the kono/ano/sono thingg :D
THANKSS! anyway, I pretty much don't know where to start in japanese!

I would be greatly appreciated if you could just throw anything that you think is useful out there! :D
PLEASE AND THANKSS!
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I am writing new lessons as we speak!
Try and imagine korean as you try to learn japanese. (it's exactly the same)

kono kuruma wa aoi desu
파랍니다

i think i spelled blue wrong D:
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한국어 쓰는게 쫌 어렵네
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I understand!! the "o" @ the end is used when its right before a noun and the "e" is used other wise!

Great lessons. They are easy to understand :D

アリガト、先生。
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WOW! the korean version is a lot easier to understand! ^^
LOL!!! I think I should start by getting more familiar with the
katakana and hiragana alphabett! :D

also! One question! ummm, do you know where I can find a picture or something that helps to show which letter on the keyboard is what letter in the hiragana/katakana alphabet?

Kinda like those korean/english keyboards when the korean letters are like kinda in the corner :D

ps: You're korean is really GOOD!
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For the keyboard question:
Everything is exactly the same as the english keyboard

to create the letter "ka" just type K and A

I'll be glad to teach you privately in korean if you want. It becomes very easy that way.
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ohh, the keyboard thing sounds really easy! thankss BUNCHES~! :D

and if you CAN teach my in korean... THAT WOULD BE AWSOMEE! :D
thank you x google! *sends ALL THE APPRECIATION IN THE WORLD*
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thanks for posting all of this
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i dont understand the difference between ano and sono
and are and sore
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a very weird concept for english speakers indeed!
Are/Ano is used when the subject matter who is far away from both you and the person you are speaking with.

Sore/sono is used when the subject matter is very close to the person you are speaking with, but is far away from you.
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ah i see thanks
Posted 2/19/08

sunwooz wrote:

ahh, so you don't understand korean? It's a lot easier to teach you this concept through korean.

the difference between kore/kono are/ano is that there is no difference in meaning!

The only difference is that Kono/ano/sono is used WITH nouns.
Kono baka
kono neko
ano inu
ano CD
kono/ano/sono + noun

Kore/sore/are is used on every other situation

kore wa neko desu
this is a cat
sore wa inu desu
that is a dog
are wa nan desu ka?
what is that?

Please ask more questions This is how you learn!


You should make things more simple
Used everytime except when kore/sore/are go right before the noun
This- Kore
That - Sore
That over there- Are
This is my cat
THIS is not right before the noun cat
That is my soda
THAT is not right before the noun soda
Is that your book over there?
THAT OVER THERE is not right before the noun book
Kono- This
Sono- That
Ano- That over there
Used when kore/sore/are go right before the noun
This Cat
That Dog
That tv over there



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