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Well I think that the easiest way to learn the kore/kono etc is by knowing that "Kono" goes right before a noun... and "kore" means "This thing"

Kore wa nan desu ka?
This is what?

Kono hon wa nani?
this book is what?
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Posted 2/20/08

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sunwooz wrote:

ahh, so you don't understand korean? It's a lot easier to teach you this concept through korean.

the difference between kore/kono are/ano is that there is no difference in meaning!

The only difference is that Kono/ano/sono is used WITH nouns.
Kono baka
kono neko
ano inu
ano CD
kono/ano/sono + noun

Kore/sore/are is used on every other situation

kore wa neko desu
this is a cat
sore wa inu desu
that is a dog
are wa nan desu ka?
what is that?

Please ask more questions This is how you learn!


You should make things more simple
Used everytime except when kore/sore/are go right before the noun
This- Kore
That - Sore
That over there- Are
This is my cat
THIS is not right before the noun cat
That is my soda
THAT is not right before the noun soda
Is that your book over there?
THAT OVER THERE is not right before the noun book
Kono- This
Sono- That
Ano- That over there
Used when kore/sore/are go right before the noun
This Cat
That Dog
That tv over there





doomo arigatou gozaimasu!!!this is much easier to understand!!!!!ganbatte!

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sunwooz wrote:

Well I think that the easiest way to learn the kore/kono etc is by knowing that "Kono" goes right before a noun... and "kore" means "This thing"

Kore wa nan desu ka?
This is what?

Kono hon wa nani?
this book is what?


kore wa nan desu ka?
what is this?

kono hon wa nani?
what is this book?

in english the pattern in writting the sentence is this:

I like bread.
S V O

but in japanese:

Watashi wa Pan ga suki desu. (i'm not sure with the articles ga and wa)


watashi wa= S
Pan= O
suki=V

im not sure with my japanese translation of " i like bread". im only showing what is the pattern of writing a sentence in japanese.
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the problem with writing down a pattern for japanese is that it's not always the same.
And it's hard to produce a guide that everyone would understand without having to throw grammar their way so i'm veering away from standard guides and making this guide compatible for (many who are under 15) the masses.
Posted 2/20/08

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sunwooz wrote:

Well I think that the easiest way to learn the kore/kono etc is by knowing that "Kono" goes right before a noun... and "kore" means "This thing"

Kore wa nan desu ka?
This is what?

Kono hon wa nani?
this book is what?


kore wa nan desu ka?
what is this?

kono hon wa nani?
what is this book?

in english the pattern in writting the sentence is this:

I like bread.
S V O

but in japanese:

Watashi wa Pan ga suki desu. (i'm not sure with the articles ga and wa)


watashi wa= S
Pan= O
suki=V

im not sure with my japanese translation of " i like bread". im only showing what is the pattern of writing a sentence in japanese.


It's more like STPOV
Subject
Time
Place
Object
Verb.
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Posted 2/21/08
yeah! you're right!
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Posted 2/22/08
kinda cool...
but i still don't understand it
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what don't you understand? you have to put out specifics so i can help you.
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LOL I remember these XD

Kono = this over here, close to me
Sono = that over there, close to you
Ano = that over there, far from both of us
Dono = which

eg. Kono inu wa watashino inu desu (this dog is my dog)
Sono " "
Ano " "

And for 're' just take off the 'no' and put re there

Kore
Sore
Are
Dore

eg. Watashino inu wa kore desu (my dog is here)
" " sore " "
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lol StargazerBlue's last post making me blur.. but i understand what sunwooz trying to teach so will u teach more about how n when to use "-shimasu" "-kimasu" etc something like that (not so sure) mostly at the end of a sentence.. just confused
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miLLuefillE wrote:

lol StargazerBlue's last post making me blur.. but i understand what sunwooz trying to teach so will u teach more about how n when to use "-shimasu" "-kimasu" etc something like that (not so sure) mostly at the end of a sentence.. just confused


xD I'm sawwie, it was 3am my time when I posted that :D

I could try explain what you're asking, but you better get the mod to post another answer because I am very possibly wrong coz my Jap sucks :D.

-masu form is used when you are doing an action in present tense.

Ex 1

Nani wo shimasu ka? (What are you doing?)
Terebi wo mite imasu (I am watching TV)

Instead of using shimasu, which basically translates to 'doing', you put an action (blue, in this case, 'watching') and put imasu after the action.

To change it into past tense, simply change the masu into mashita

Ex 2

Nani wo shimashita ka? (What did you do?)
Terebi wo mite imashita (I watched TV)

To change it to group form, change masu into mashou


Ex 3

Nani wo shimashou ka? (What are we doing?)
Terebi wo mite imashou (Let's watch TV)

This is where I get confused, because theres another way of writing it. The question remains the same, but the answers change into

1) Terebi wo mimasu (I watch TV)
2) Terebi wo mimashita (I watched TV)
3) Terebi wo mimashou (We're watching TV)


The imasu is removed, and instead the verb changes forms, dropping the 'te' and adding on 'masu', 'mashita', and 'mashou'. I'm not sure what the difference is between them, and if they're even right, or whre to use them so if someone could clear this up I'd be grateful :D
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Posted 2/24/08
excellent post! I might use that as a template if you don't mind.
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sunwooz wrote:

excellent post! I might use that as a template if you don't mind.


Ne? Mine?

You have a lot of cleaning up to do for that one but if you're willing be my guest :D. There are parts I'm not sure about in there though ><
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한국어 쓰는게 쫌 어렵네

The Korean language it writes to ccom it is difficult
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lol more translating websites
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