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Post Reply The Existence of Good and Evil
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No, I don't believe in the concept of good and evil.
Morality is felxible and often not guided by logic. It's just something we like because we feel better when we think that what we're doing is morally right.
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Is it nonsensical? Yes, but that doesn't mean it's not a practical/useful tool that we created, but it's only useful to an extent. The world isn't some cut and clear dichotomy with a static nature it's a multifaceted dynamic process. I'm pretty sure good and evil exists only in our head in our imagination. I would say that that type of thinking is usually reserved for children still learning about how to navigate through the world and is best suited for children. For there to be actual definite good and bad there would need to be an omnipotent external authority that decides that for us, but i doubt that's the case. If you don't believe there is an external authority source there would have to be a beginning and an end to the totality that is everything, which again I doubt.

Read this story as an example of what I mean


As for your other question if we want to play that game then yes, Good and Evil depend on one another to exist having just one without anything to contrast it would render it absolutely meaningless, it's like having left without right, or up without down, if you wanna play that game you can't have one without the other.

Ultimately I think we as a collective and yourself as an individual decide what morality is cause again it is a tool and construct that we created. However I do think there is an intrinsic internal wisdom inside of us that tells us what we should and shouldn't do absent of moral thought, but that's something that I think is hindered and ignored for the most part since we all tend to sub-serve ourselves to the constructs an expectations of other people, religion, media, parents,etc. Some more than others but in the end it still gets in the way of that intrinsic wisdom we all have in favor of ideas that aren't really based in actually experience or reality but imagination.
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The kill one to save a few is a trope that is often used in stories, often it is because a group a is threatened by group b who have hostages and and group b offer this type of proposal. Its not to say that killing the one would be evil, but it would be redundant, how can it be guaranteed that the sacrifice of said life will gurantee that the hostages go free. The evil here is not in the decision to sacrifice the individuals life but in the scenario that led to the initial proposal.

Alternatively it is used in ghost/ horror stories where the death of an individual is supposed to satiate a demon of sorts, and again I find this arguement redundant in this case as ghosts do not exist.
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Nar, it's all human and perception/opinion.
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yup. We need it for balance

holy shit, such a short response, slacker!
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Posted 6/13/16
good and evil? its depends of the HEART of human
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Morality is like probability even though it's all computed inside your head you can still be wrong. There are several ways that someone can be wrong by their own standards. They can be wrong on a point of amoral fact, their model of morality can be based on false generalities, or on metaphysical errors, such as passing the buck to the natural order, the majority or a god.

Aliens or AI could have an analogous concept, and learn what morality is by studying human brains. Humans have to be careful about that approach because it can lead to circular logic and contradictions.

The morality or rather metamorality would be a computation inside our heads, but not really about us.
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Posted 6/19/16
Yes because it depends on the person's morals. It also depends on what's universally right and wrong.
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Crazy_Monster wrote:

Yes because it depends on the person's morals. It also depends on what's universally right and wrong.


What is universally right and wrong?
Posted 6/19/16
Beware of the screamers calling everyone edgy for having a basic understanding of human psychology.
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Good and evil are defined in terms of altruism and selfishness. The more selfless and altruistic an action is, the more "good" it is. The more self-interested and selfish an action is, the more "evil" it is. So, a serial killer who treats his victims as nothing but objects designed for his personal pleasure, who denies their unique humanity, is utterly evil. Privileged families that are determined to always seek their advantage at the expense of other families are evil. Bankers who care only about the size of their bonuses and nothing for other people are evil. Politicians who serve themselves (and the lobbyists who pay them so lucratively) are evil. Greedy bosses who exploit their workers are evil. Those who gratuitously harm others are evil. Those who do unto others as they would never wish done unto them are evil. Evil - in the form of greed, selfishness and self-interest - is all around us. We are saturated with it. Our world drips with evil. True goodness, on the other hand, is rarer than the most precious gold in this fallen world of ours.
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Posted 6/19/16
Good and evil is a point of view.
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Relativism is nothing but BS. Morality is not dependent upon our own beliefs. Which means its not subjective either. People acknowledge that things are universally wrong, which implies an objective moral framework exists. Which leads us to the question, "who/what made this universal framework". I say God, but such a claim is not accepted entirely.

However, I came to this conclusion because if "God" or such a deity didn't exist, then objectivity doesn't exist, which means subjectivity reigns and morality virtually means nothing. Which means there is no such thing as sin and right or wrong.

Truly, I would rather believe that God exists and everything has a purpose, than believing in a universe where everything is subjective and the world truly has no value.

Even so, I have realized that the truth is not relative to our beliefs.
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Is there something wrong about people giving their own lives value instead of some sky magician deciding it for them? Also why does it matter if "sin" isn't a thing?
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Posted 6/19/16
I don't believe good and evil exist as separate entities inasmuch as they a product of human norms where, in the grossest sense and omitting all important nuances, morality roughly boils down to "if it harms someone, it's probably bad."
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