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Afro samurai

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Kenshin and Champloo
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Kenshin and Champloo


Kenshin yes, but i don't know about champloo hes still new.
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Rurouni Kenshin and Samurai X
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Rurouni Kenshin and Samurai X


i agree, samurai x iz a str8 up cold hearted killer
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I haven't found even found a DECENT anime samurai OR swordsman yet let alone a good one.

Why? Well none of them embody the life of a samurai. It's all about swordsmanship (which they all seem to fail in.)

As for swordsmanship, either they; 1. Swing the sword around like a baseball bat. 2. Have a ridiculously huge sword that no one can realistically wield. and/or 3. They dash around like those Hollywood ninja (which is also an incredibly inaccurate view as shinobi no mono were spies, not assassins or killers.)

So when I find a decent one I'll post it.

I see many people list Kenshin. First off, he's not a samurai so he doesn't belong here. Being a samurai means you were born or adopted into a samurai family. He wasn't even a ronin. He was a traveler (Rurouni) who happened to learn swordsmanship from some crazy drunk who lived in the mountains.

I personally hate Samurai X because he claims to know "Battojutsu" and yet he never uses it. He expounds incorrectly that battojutsu utilizes the speed of drawing the sword when speed and strength have nothing to do with a sword fight. Blech. They raped the image of Gensai Kawakami (who wasn't a samurai at all.)
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Ice_Blue_Eyes wrote:

I haven't found even found a DECENT anime samurai OR swordsman yet let alone a good one.

Why? Well none of them embody the life of a samurai. It's all about swordsmanship (which they all seem to fail in.)

As for swordsmanship, either they; 1. Swing the sword around like a baseball bat. 2. Have a ridiculously huge sword that no one can realistically wield. and/or 3. They dash around like those Hollywood ninja (which is also an incredibly inaccurate view as shinobi no mono were spies, not assassins or killers.)

So when I find a decent one I'll post it.

I see many people list Kenshin. First off, he's not a samurai so he doesn't belong here. Being a samurai means you were born or adopted into a samurai family. He wasn't even a ronin. He was a traveler (Rurouni) who happened to learn swordsmanship from some crazy drunk who lived in the mountains.

I personally hate Samurai X because he claims to know "Battojutsu" and yet he never uses it. He expounds incorrectly that battojutsu utilizes the speed of drawing the sword when speed and strength have nothing to do with a sword fight. Blech. They raped the image of Gensai Kawakami (who wasn't a samurai at all.)


your right about the them having ridiculously huge swords(zabuza,mugen,sanno,ichigo and etc...) I havn't seen a swordesmen/samurai swing their swords like baseball bats they do dash like hollywood ninja. But those are the things that make a swordsmen/samurai anime great. not everyone wants a decent anime swordsmen people dont want normal boring samurai.
people now uh days want action thats y bleach and those other shows r so popular. Kenshin does belong here, u dont have to be born or adopted in a samurai family to be a good samurai.
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To those who aren't as educated in real swordsmanship, no doubt they seem impressive. Though to someone who has been a member of the martial arts community for long, they are naturally more critical of such things. Then again that is just in a difference of opinion. As silly as I find it, I do enjoy the likes of Bleach and Samurai Champloo.

Impressiveness is in the eye of the beholder. I don't find real swordsmanship boring at all, but I certainly understand others might find it as such. More often than not the more flashy and impressive looking an art, the less effective it is in combat. Which is why the likes of Gung'Fu and Taekwondo aren't known to be very effective. However there are many reasons (fitness, health, internal, etc.) that one would take such things which is why they are more popular in an age where combat (atleast in war) is not dependent upon personal skill as much.

In a matter-of-fact, in the era in which Kenshin grew to be known (The Bakumatsu) you did have to be born or adopted into a bushi family to be bushi (of which samurai is a higher echelon) and Kenshin was never cited (not in manga nor anime) to be a samurai nor even a ronin. Kenshin was a traveler (Rurouni) who happened to be a skilled swordsman. In the era in which Kenshin existed in the original TV series, there are no samurai. Even those who once were samurai ceased to be. Such a thing is a verifiable fact.

So if this is a thread for swordsman, everything is in the clear. Though if it is about samurai themselves, the list is greatly narrowed. As Samurai were only about 10% of a Japanese army in the Sengoku-jidai, so are Samurai about 1% of swordsman in anime.
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Agree, you seem to know alot about this stuff, alot more then me glad your a member
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Haha I only know as much as I have learned. I've just asked a lot of questions, studied a lot, and listened well for a long time to accumulate knowledge. Anyone can do it. However the key is separating the bull from the truth. The easiest way to do this is asking people to cite sources. I like having discussions and friendly debates with people to accumulate greater knowledge from what they know and to pass down my own knowledge as well.

I love anime, but I equally love the historic side of things. I think both could be important (as I did here, relating anime to historic contexts) and could provide some interesting conversations here. After all, this is an anime group but it's also a swordsman group. To have both applied in an interlinking context as aforementioned, they could provide versatility in discussions and therefore provide a more open environment. Just an idea. I know some people want a group to be explicitly anime and you're the boss who would have to delegate on this matter. I haven't found any clear indication that this was strictly anime, so I assumed historic contexts would be allowed here.
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Ice_Blue_Eyes wrote:

I haven't found even found a DECENT anime samurai OR swordsman yet let alone a good one.

Why? Well none of them embody the life of a samurai. It's all about swordsmanship (which they all seem to fail in.)

As for swordsmanship, either they; 1. Swing the sword around like a baseball bat. 2. Have a ridiculously huge sword that no one can realistically wield. and/or 3. They dash around like those Hollywood ninja (which is also an incredibly inaccurate view as shinobi no mono were spies, not assassins or killers.)

So when I find a decent one I'll post it.

I see many people list Kenshin. First off, he's not a samurai so he doesn't belong here. Being a samurai means you were born or adopted into a samurai family. He wasn't even a ronin. He was a traveler (Rurouni) who happened to learn swordsmanship from some crazy drunk who lived in the mountains.

I personally hate Samurai X because he claims to know "Battojutsu" and yet he never uses it. He expounds incorrectly that battojutsu utilizes the speed of drawing the sword when speed and strength have nothing to do with a sword fight. Blech. They raped the image of Gensai Kawakami (who wasn't a samurai at all.)


kenshins still awesome
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It's an entertaining anime. I do like the character. However, the anime at the same time rapes my own art; "Iaijutsu (Which includes Kenjutsu and Battojutsu)" and for that I find it greatle disrespectful. Atleast none of the other anime claim a historic art and viciously misrepresent (and contradict) it.
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Ice_Blue_Eyes wrote:

It's an entertaining anime. I do like the character. However, the anime at the same time rapes my own art; "Iaijutsu (Which includes Kenjutsu and Battojutsu)" and for that I find it greatle disrespectful. Atleast none of the other anime claim a historic art and viciously misrepresent (and contradict) it.


guess your right
but kenshins still awesome
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