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Posted 6/14/16


So, Crunchy:


Recently a member of the anime industry gave his opinion as to the differences in the creative process between men and women.


The media, refusing to even acknowledge such differences exist, instantly labeled his remarks as "sexist."


What is surprising is that Crunchy Roll joined in on this media circus and labeled the remarks "sexist" as well:



http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2016/06/14-1/former-ghibli-producer-apologizes-for-sexist-comments-made-during-interview



Is it "sexist" to simply acknowledge men and women have different expectations, understandings, and needs for fiction?


Is it "sexist" to say shounen appeals mostly to boys, and shoujo to girls?


Is it "sexist" to say that outsider of a few exceptions to the rule, that it is hard for men to write for women and women to write for men?



What do you think, Crunchy?
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Women do write and think differently. Look at Twilight one of the worst pieces of literature known to man yet women love it for some reason.
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This is a pretty complex issue.
For simplicity, no, no, and no. But there are subtle issues at work
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From what I've read, he said nothing wrong. Everything he said was 100% reasonable...

This whole thing is just Women=/=Men, therefore outrage.
Posted 6/14/16
Is it "sexist" to simply acknowledge men and women have different expectations, understandings, and needs for fiction?

Is it "sexist" to say shounen appeals mostly to boys, and shoujo to girls?

Is it "sexist" to say that outsider of a few exceptions to the rule, that it is hard for men to write for women and women to write for men?


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Posted 6/14/16
No. None of that is sexist.
Posted 6/14/16

maxgale wrote:



So, Crunchy:


Recently a member of the anime industry gave his opinion as to the differences in the creative process between men and women.


The media, refusing to even acknowledge such differences exist, instantly labeled his remarks as "sexist."


What is surprising is that Crunchy Roll joined in on this media circus and labeled the remarks "sexist" as well:



http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2016/06/14-1/former-ghibli-producer-apologizes-for-sexist-comments-made-during-interview



Is it "sexist" to simply acknowledge men and women have different expectations, understandings, and needs for fiction?


Is it "sexist" to say shounen appeals mostly to boys, and shoujo to girls?


Is it "sexist" to say that outsider of a few exceptions to the rule, that it is hard for men to write for women and women to write for men?



What do you think, Crunchy?


They are different expectations, understandings, and needs for fiction between the sexes, otherwise so many women over men wouldn't like to read and watch yaoi.

It isn't sexist to say shounen appeals mostly to boys, it does. But since its all CR has to offer a lot of girls must get into it in order to relate to the boys, for reasons of attraction, to both the fans and the male protagonists, as it is in Shounen-ai. An interesting thought.
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Yes, yes, and yes. By right of my creed.

"Everything is sexist; everything is racist; everything is homophobic, and you have to point it all out."
Posted 6/14/16
SJWs whining about SJWs. So, what else is new?
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Western television is garbage. They are just jealous of Japan.
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maxgale wrote:


Is it "sexist" to simply acknowledge men and women have different expectations, understandings, and needs for fiction?




Is it "sexist" to say that outsider of a few exceptions to the rule, that it is hard for men to write for women and women to write for men?



I certainly never notice these differences. What are they?
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Posted 6/14/16
If there's a media war against anime this is the first time I've heard of it
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Just so we actually know wtf we're talking about here. This is the comment when asked about having a female director for a film:


“It depends on what kind of a film it would be. Unlike live action, with animation we have to simplify the real world. Women tend to be more realistic and manage day-to-day lives very well. Men on the other hand tend to be more idealistic – and fantasy films need that idealistic approach. I don’t think it’s a coincidence men are picked.”


So no, he didn't say men and women have differing creative processes, needs, exceptions, etc of fiction. He straight up said women are too "realistic" to make animation while men are idealistic.

Which is made all the more ironic since the stereotype is more the other way around in western culture.

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Is it "sexist" to simply acknowledge men and women have different expectations, understandings, and needs for fiction?
This is different than promoting the idea that men and women cannot cross those boundaries of expectations, understandings and needs - and I think this is what happened in the Studio Ghibli case.

Is it "sexist" to say shounen appeals mostly to boys, and shoujo to girls?
This is different than suggesting or expecting one sex or the other be restricted to the genres that society assigns them to - and I think this happens a lot.

Is it "sexist" to say that outsider of a few exceptions to the rule, that it is hard for men to write for women and women to write for men?
And this is different than not acknowledging that those few exceptions could actually be closer to the norm than you think.
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Well, if he made comments towards women being animation directors, and assuming he said that it would be a man's prerogative to better fit that title. Yeah probably sexist, but lets be real here.

How many women are actually animation directors? I don't Fucking know lol, but I can tell you not enough, not more than men.

Is it sexist to say that? Well show me what a women can produce in terms of being a animation director, show me examples.

Don't just start throwing out these obvious bullshit triggers, I want to know the real question.

Like you are seriously up in arms about this settle down chief.
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