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Catholic Bishop says religion "breeds contempt" for LGBT community
Posted 6/14/16

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co3444 wrote:


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co3444 wrote:

Which God? The Catholic God?


There's only one.


Accordng to whom?


Where are you going with this?


Where are you going with this?
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Which God? The Catholic God?


Well Catholics and Christians believe in Jesus right, and Jesus was Jewish. Jesus' god (father, whatever) is the Jewish god, which means the Jewish, Catholic, and Christian god are all the same.
Posted 6/14/16 , edited 6/14/16

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co3444

Which God? The Catholic God?


Well Catholics and Christians believe in Jesus right, and Jesus was Jewish. Jesus' god (father, whatever) is the Jewish god, which means the Jewish, Catholic, and Christian god are all the same.


Their interpretation of how you should live isn't. The Muslim God is the Abrahamic one, but isn't to the rest. Lots of these little hypocrisies. So yes and no to being the same.If the religion isn't the same then how can the God be the same? Does he have Multiple-God Disorder? In terms of wholesomeness, the Catholic Abrahamic God decided that Catholics were the one true Church, as did Allah and Islam, Jews don't believe in Christ as the Messiah, and Protestants don't believe in the Pope as Successor to St. Peter. A lot of confusion from the One True God. So which God is it?
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Couple of points.

The author states that assault weapons are weapons of mass destruction. This is incorrect, assault rifles are categorized as small arms. Nuclear arms are categorized as weapons of mass destruction.

The author is correct in stating that barring people based on faith is un-American. It's not just un-American, it's unconstitutional! However, the situation we're facing is difficult and there is no easy 'yes' or 'no' answer. But if it were up to me, I would simply cut off the head of the snake.

I am a Christian myself, and while I do not partake in homosexual acts (a forgivable sin just like theft or lying), they just killed more of my American brethren, which does not sit well with me.

I also want to add that going to extreme in any direction, Christian or Muslim, is dangerous.


This is great. Well said.
Edit: I did not read the 3rd and 4th sentences of the 2nd paragraph. I don't know about that stuff.
Posted 6/14/16 , edited 6/14/16

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XxNaruTheNarcissistxX wrote:

Couple of points.

The author states that assault weapons are weapons of mass destruction. This is incorrect, assault rifles are categorized as small arms. Nuclear arms are categorized as weapons of mass destruction.

The author is correct in stating that barring people based on faith is un-American. It's not just un-American, it's unconstitutional! However, the situation we're facing is difficult and there is no easy 'yes' or 'no' answer. But if it were up to me, I would simply cut off the head of the snake.

I am a Christian myself, and while I do not partake in homosexual acts (a forgivable sin just like theft or lying), they just killed more of my American brethren, which does not sit well with me.

I also want to add that going to extreme in any direction, Christian or Muslim, is dangerous.


This is great. Well said.


According to whom? How do we know he doesn't partake in homosexual acts? We didn't know about the Catholic Sex Abuse Scandal either until people came out about it. And who says Christianity isn't extreme by nature? Christians? What's wrong with extreme? Is it wrong to live rigorously?
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co3444 A lot of confusion from the One True God. So which God is it?


Well given my limited knowledge of religions, no real idea. Difference in man, passed on beliefs, and reforms to churches probably help account for the differences in view points between the Jewish, Catholic and Christian's version of god.

However, religious scholars have been having debates about this stuff to no end for years, and if they can't answer it, then I doubt I can.
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Posted 6/14/16

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co3444

Which God? The Catholic God?


Well Catholics and Christians believe in Jesus right, and Jesus was Jewish. Jesus' god (father, whatever) is the Jewish god, which means the Jewish, Catholic, and Christian god are all the same.


The Islamic God is also the same. They're called Abrahamic religions.
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co3444 wrote:


jtjumper wrote:


XxNaruTheNarcissistxX wrote:

Couple of points.

The author states that assault weapons are weapons of mass destruction. This is incorrect, assault rifles are categorized as small arms. Nuclear arms are categorized as weapons of mass destruction.

The author is correct in stating that barring people based on faith is un-American. It's not just un-American, it's unconstitutional! However, the situation we're facing is difficult and there is no easy 'yes' or 'no' answer. But if it were up to me, I would simply cut off the head of the snake.

I am a Christian myself, and while I do not partake in homosexual acts (a forgivable sin just like theft or lying), they just killed more of my American brethren, which does not sit well with me.

I also want to add that going to extreme in any direction, Christian or Muslim, is dangerous.


This is great. Well said.


According to whom? How do we know he doesn't partake in homosexual acts? We didn't know about the Catholic Sex Abuse Scandal either until people came out about it. And who says Christianity isn't extreme by nature? Christians? What's wrong with extreme? Is it wrong to live rigorously?


Oops, I did not read the 3rd and 4th sentences of the 2nd paragraph. I don't know about that stuff. To the point, I was responding what XxNaruTheNarcissistxX was saying.

"According to whom?" Well, me, I guess. I was just applauing Naru's words (most of them, now).
"How do we know he doesn't partake in homosexual acts?" I don't think Naru does. As for the priest, I know nothing about that. With no evidence, I'd say being slow to judge is best.
"We didn't know about the Catholic Sex Abuse Scandal either until people came out about it. " True.
"And who says Christianity isn't extreme by nature?" Some parts can be. That's what devotion and repentance is about.
" What's wrong with extreme? " Generically speaking, nothing intrinsically. It really depends on the situation.
" Is it wrong to live rigorously?" We should, of course.
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Of course it does. Religions state that it is wrong and the people who are gay should be punished.
Not every religions follower believes it though. Some are rational human beings and can make the choice on there own.

But i do think that if religion was not involved then this would not be nearly the problem it seems to be.
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God's word is not religion. It's The Way. So technically, he's right about that.. I don't understand his motivation behind this.
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This is correct that they are small arms but do to poor regulation they are far to easy to get. A nucular weapon is a weapon of mass destruction but is pretty hard to come by.

I also agree that banning a religious group from entering the nation would be unconstitutional. America is a secular state and that is what makes it pretty special. No religion is to be given better treatment then any other one.

Any religion taken to the extreme can certainly be devastating.

I was raised as a Christian but became an atheist so these conversations are always interesting to me.
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Posted 6/14/16

co3444 wrote:


jtjumper wrote:


XxNaruTheNarcissistxX wrote:

Couple of points.

The author states that assault weapons are weapons of mass destruction. This is incorrect, assault rifles are categorized as small arms. Nuclear arms are categorized as weapons of mass destruction.

The author is correct in stating that barring people based on faith is un-American. It's not just un-American, it's unconstitutional! However, the situation we're facing is difficult and there is no easy 'yes' or 'no' answer. But if it were up to me, I would simply cut off the head of the snake.

I am a Christian myself, and while I do not partake in homosexual acts (a forgivable sin just like theft or lying), they just killed more of my American brethren, which does not sit well with me.

I also want to add that going to extreme in any direction, Christian or Muslim, is dangerous.


This is great. Well said.


According to whom? How do we know he doesn't partake in homosexual acts? We didn't know about the Catholic Sex Abuse Scandal either until people came out about it. And who says Christianity isn't extreme by nature? Christians? What's wrong with extreme? Is it wrong to live rigorously?


This is good, this is very good. You have good points, lets talk about this.

According to whom?

What according to whom?

How do we know he doesn't partake in homosexual acts?

When you say "He", are you talking about the Bishop, the gunman or the guy who quoted me. But regardless of who you're talking about, I simply stated that I do not partake in homosexual acts. I am placing no judgment or accusations on anyone.

Catholic Sex Abuse Scandal

This is filth at the highest levels

And who says Christianity isn't extreme by nature?

You make a good point. Extreme can be defined as a point furthest from the center.
So lets set the baseline at the average joe who goes to church on Sundays and has a nice respectful family.
That makes people like Westboro Baptist Church a little more extreme (who pickets a funeral? really people?) and the crusades even more extreme. Which brings me to my next point.

What's wrong with extreme?

The extreme spectrum of being warm is burning to death, the extreme spectrum of cool is freezing to death.
The extreme spectrum of Christianity results in the Crusades where people invade other countries and force their ideology.
These extreme spectrum of Islam is what we just saw in Orlando, Brussels and San Bernadino to name a few.
And Hitlers hatred for the Jews lead to deaths of millions of people was pretty extreme in my opinion.
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Hi there,

I'm closing this thread for the following reasons;
First, the numerous reports against it, secondly the TS just dumping a link without engaging in the discussion themselves, thirdly the stirring of the pot by immediately attacking religion by someone nuking their account shortly after leaving nothing but fuel for a flamewar.

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