First  Prev  1  2  3  4  5  6  7  Next  Last
Post Reply Should women have to register for the draft?
35035 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
F
Offline
Posted 6/15/16 , edited 6/15/16

shugotenshi-atm wrote:

The draft is absolutely still needed. You will never have enough volunteers for a major war.

Women should sign up but should also have to pass the same physical tests needed to go into active duty.


I have no strong feelings for eliminating draft registration, but barring a pan-global conflict like the second world war breaking out again it doesn't seem like it would be necessary. The US has managed with an all-volunteer force for decades now, even in protracted wars like the ones in Afghanistan and Iraq.

Is it simply a matter of precaution for you? Can't be too careful and all that? I can understand that perspective, and honestly draft registration presently amounts to a fairly minimal burden.
502 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
M
Offline
Posted 6/15/16
A lot can change in a year. I doubt any nuclear powers will go to war but a lot of the world can be flipped on its head very quickly. It's easiest to keep the system we have than to scrap it and rebuild it later.
1197 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
24 / M / New Jersey
Offline
Posted 6/15/16

1stladyent wrote:

Didn't read, but with the question, I'd think so, since it would equate to equality...


That's what I thought too when I saw this.
Posted 6/15/16 , edited 6/15/16
I personally don't have problem with women being drafted. My spec sergeant was female, and she was awesome. I remember we had four women in our platoon at basic, and they all performed better than most of the guys. They also whined less than the guys.

We don't have the type of barracks you see in American movies, where everyone basically sleeps in one big hangar. Instead we live in something that looks more like a student complex, with several bedrooms (4 bunks per bedroom) tied to a common area. Women have their own bedrooms, and their own showers. As for in the field, women sleep in the same tents as the guys.

I was the only guy who had a fling with one of the girls at basic. She approached me on my second day there, and she had a habit of using me as either a chair, or a mattress, on our time off I mean. We eventually made out in my bunk under the sheets, in the darkest corners of the halls, and behind buildings when no one was looking. She sent me nude photos from the shower once, asking me to join her, but I chose to appear as if I didn't get the memo, because spite how much I wanted to, I was in the military and I'm of the type to always see the worst case scenario. Even though it was a private bathroom/shower that we could lock, I just know that something-- anything that could happen-- would happen.

There was one incident while we were in the field, in one of the tents, where one of the guys was reported for being improper with one of the girls. I think a word closely related to the word "tampering" was used. Whether or not he did it was irrelevant, and frankly doesn't concern me. He, or they, were separated and reprimanded accordingly. I personally think he was a good guy, a bit strange, but as all men with long hair are. I just wouldn't jump to conclusion, because I can't possibly have any of the facts. And I also wouldn't look it past him just because I thought he was ok. You know what I mean? Case in point, they he/they were separated and reprimanded.

That girl I made out with, and I, we were both being unprofessional. We already went too far by making out on camp, but we would've severely crossed the line if we were to have sex on camp. So, I'm not the one to talk, but all I'm saying is you can't stop it from happening when it happens naturally, and it's the military's job to inform, not of what you can't do, but of what you can do instead. One thing they can inform the people of, is that if they want to make out and have sex, they just absolutely cannot do it on camp, or in uniform, they're going to have to plan to take a bus, or a train, or plane home together, and be together at home over the weekend. So long as you're not on camp, or in uniform, it's ok, but only then. That's two consenting adults on their free time. On camp, that's like being at your work place.

---------------------------------------------------------


DazaiShinju wrote:

That said, I don't think that a draft is a good idea.

Why, though?

TL;DR. The point I'm looking for is that the whole experience is usually very positive for people, psychologically, you can postpone it, and you won't be shipped off to war unless you sign a contract specifically for it. So, what then is left for it to not be a good idea?


BlueOni wrote:

I have no strong feelings for eliminating draft registration, but barring a pan-global conflict like the second world war breaking out again it doesn't seem like it would be necessary. The US has managed with an all-volunteer force for decades now, even in protracted wars like the ones in Afghanistan and Iraq.

Please read what I wrote to DazaiShinju above (not the part about women being drafted). You won't, in fact, you can't be shipped off to war unless you sign a contract specifically for it. That contract is unrelated to the draft. It's a separate contract, that you can sign, if you want to, after you've been through basic.
145751 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
26 / F / Overlord's Castle
Offline
Posted 6/15/16

Rujikin wrote:

Yes they wanted equal right an they got it. Part of equal rights is an equal opportunity to die in some piss ant country no one gives a fuck about just like males can.


well that would be stupid..who the hell is going to stay at home and reproduce? I don't see men giving birth anytime soon.
15259 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
23 / M / UK
Offline
Posted 6/15/16

Kira0309 wrote:


Rujikin wrote:

Yes they wanted equal right an they got it. Part of equal rights is an equal opportunity to die in some piss ant country no one gives a fuck about just like males can.


well that would be stupid..who the hell is going to stay at home and reproduce? I don't see men giving birth anytime soon.


It takes two to tango...
2654 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
27 / F / England
Offline
Posted 6/15/16 , edited 6/15/16

Hrafna wrote:


DazaiShinju wrote:

That said, I don't think that a draft is a good idea.

Why, though?
If you offer a valid reason such as education or job, you can always postpone the draft.


I just don't think that anyone should be obligated to fight wars they might not agree with on a fundamental level.
Gender doesn't even come into it.



Posted 6/15/16 , edited 6/15/16

DazaiShinju wrote:


Hrafna wrote:


DazaiShinju wrote:

That said, I don't think that a draft is a good idea.

Why, though?
If you offer a valid reason such as education or job, you can always postpone the draft.


I just don't think that anyone should be obligated to fight wars they might not agree with on a fundamental level.
Gender doesn't even come into it.


But, I mentioned that. You're not obligated to fight any war. That's not what drafting entails. So, it's not what you think it is. Drafting isn't what most people think drafting is.
16009 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
22 / M
Offline
Posted 6/15/16
Yes they cry about want equal rights that includes all not just the ones they want lol
13141 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
24 / M
Offline
Posted 6/15/16 , edited 6/15/16

Hrafna wrote:
But, I mentioned that. You're not obligated to fight any war. That's not what drafting entails. So, it's not what you think it is. Drafting isn't what most people think drafting is.


Care to elaborate? While you can become exempt if you post a reason that is determined to be valid, being morally opposed isn't a valid reason (from what I can tell). Isn't that basically forcing you to fight (if that is what you are assigned to do)?
11783 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
26 / F
Online
Posted 6/15/16
So, if I say I don't want to fight in a war because I think it's wrong then I don't have to doesn't matter what?
48 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
26 / M / stationed in texa...
Offline
Posted 6/15/16
I completely agree there shouldn't be a time when a draft takes place. However as part of a country we do have an obligation to register for a draft should that time come. A military draft should be inacted if the country is in danger of losing itself. Should that time come that the country we live in is on the brink of destruction a draft should be set in place. If that were to happen then i do believe women should be involved in the draft. Women exercise the same rights as everyone else. they were given the right to vote with the 19th amendment. We don't live in a world anymore where it's acceptable to be sexist in any way shape or form.
16789 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
Hoosierville
Offline
Posted 6/15/16

Kira0309 wrote:


Rujikin wrote:

Yes they wanted equal right an they got it. Part of equal rights is an equal opportunity to die in some piss ant country no one gives a fuck about just like males can.


well that would be stupid..who the hell is going to stay at home and reproduce? I don't see men giving birth anytime soon.


That's all the more incentive to not die in a war or go to war.
One Punch Mod
85923 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
F / Boston-ish
Offline
Posted 6/15/16

BlueOni wrote:

In principle, yes. In practice, it's not really currently strategically necessary for the US military to draft anyone. It's probably better if registration were just done away with. But if not, then yes. Women should register, too.


Of course BlueOni has once again said almost exactly what I was thinking.
Fadaar 
9509 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
30 / M / Georgia
Offline
Posted 6/15/16 , edited 6/15/16
I served voluntarily (4 years active duty in the AF), but I still say yes. Equal rights means equal in all areas, no being selective about it. The draft is one of those things that hopefully never has to be used, and today's military has been downsized so much that meeting recruitment quotas isn't hard.
First  Prev  1  2  3  4  5  6  7  Next  Last
You must be logged in to post.