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Post Reply Rape victim's baby is stolen from her arms 51 hours after birth by DHR
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Sounds suspiciously pro-lifey. Ebil government steals miracle rape baby and hero mother in retaliation for Facebook posts?

I can't find any reliable source for the story. To quote WBRC Fox 6:


Based on information we have gathered this does not warrant a story at this point.


As for the whole "no reason" thing. She's 14 and its protective services. Its literally illegal for them to publicly provide information about the case. I seriously question even posting the pic/video of a 14 year old rape victim.


The first thing I thought was 'Why on earth is her photograph included?'.

As has been said, I'd be shocked if the story is as transparent as this. Not that anyone should be trying to learn the details - the girl is 14.


English speech laws are vastly different from the U.S.


I know that - but if anything I think we're more lax here. It has always seemed to me that laws regarding minors are stricter, and more strictly enforced in the USA - that could simply be my perception though.
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One of the first things I found when looking up this website was a snopes article saying that a previous story that they ran, similar to this one, was blown way out of proportion and missing a lot of the facts. The second thing that I found was that their parent website is anti-vaccine and supportive of "alternative health"...

"The foundation for anyone’s health is their belief system. The modern-day agricultural industry and medical industry is the result of more than 2 generations of Darwinian-dominated biology and science in our educational institutes. Anything referencing the spirit world or the non-physical aspects of life are either ignored or denied"
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Make no mistake, minors are protected in most laws and in the courts, especially things like criminal acts. Most of the time, U.S. courts typically only refer to a child victim in anonymous terms, so that when the transcripts, or details are given to the public the name of the victim is not revealed.

However, there isn't a legal restriction on publishing the name of victims if it was discovered through legal means. Even though it is a immoral and unethical thing to do. The U.S. Supreme court has struck down laws that limited the press's freedom to publish names if they were acquired through legal channels.

Right now it has only been a matter of professional courtesy to not publish the identity of rape victims, regardless of age.
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too much bad has been going on lately. this is horrible
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Posted 6/17/16 , edited 6/17/16

KarenAraragi wrote:
Stop right there. I will no read that wall of text. I stand by what I say.


Easy to stand by what you say when you refuse to read anything to the contrary. =p

3 paragraphs is hardly a wall of text.




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I know that - but if anything I think we're more lax here. It has always seemed to me that laws regarding minors are stricter, and more strictly enforced in the USA - that could simply be my perception though.


Well, that's the crux of my problem with this. Legally, her identity and confidentiality are protected from release when it comes to protective services, the police and the courts. But her family is the one airing it out and this dubious website is assisting in drawing attention to it by trying to make it go viral.

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can anyone say?
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Hypocrisy.

immoral and unethical thing to do

This is better.

regardless of age.
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The title made me sad already
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redokami wrote:
can anyone say?
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Wat
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runec wrote:


redokami wrote:
can anyone say?
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Wat


some of the characters in the books are stolen as infants from the hospital and expirmented on, to sum it up
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snopes says they updated the article to mention that the 14 year old mother and her twin brother were also taken into protective custody a short time later. This says to me that they are removing all the minors from the custody of the mother's parents, not removing the infant from the mother's custody. It would certainly be in the grandparents' best interest to paint this in a different light.
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I think this is it. My limit. Here it is.
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I'm not familiar with child protective services procedures, but I find it strange how they're doing all of this claiming to be following procedures but refusing to point out which procedures they're following. Then there's this part that makes it worse:


Though the DHR social worker promised that the twins would not be separated, they were taken away in different vehicles.
Mrs. Prince asked for the social worker’s name, but she refused to give her full name.


Not only are they refusing to explain their actions to the family, the social worker is also refusing to tell them who she is? I'm sure there's got to be a lot more to this story, but assuming the details we have so far aren't false, something's wrong with this picture. What kind of social worker says "I'm taking these kids away and you're not allowed to know who I am"?

I really hope this story is fake. Otherwise there's something really shady going on in this department.
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Something stinks here. That's all I can come away with.
Besides, all of the names being dropped in the "story" tells me that there's an agenda at work.
My heart's with the girl and her son, but, this girl just got thrown from childhood into motherhood and someone's spinning it into a viral campaign. No thanks.

It's also interesting that the OP basically dropped this on us, ran, and hasn't commented since...


*edit; one too many "heres" there...
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It was up late at night when i posted I've been sleeping and I've been busy doing homework , also to add my two cents . Something is wrong with the picture , things don't add up ,people are saying it's not worth of reporting but no one else is stepping up to explain the situation and I will be completely honest my opinion is biased as what you know as DHR is known as DHS here in Australia , I don't like DHS as they attacked my family and tried to destroy it. Yes we where finally let go but I feel they do more harm than good as they are too busy attacking innocent people and family's instead of dealing with cases that really need help , I've had friends and seen many horrible things happen to people I care about and they turn there back on them. So yeah I wanted to see what others thought and my heart goes out to that girl and her family
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