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I feel like with this kind of content matter it should be up to the person to choose as far as i can tell it should be a fairly adult crowd on Crunchyroll and i feel that placing maybe a parental guard on accounts could be a thing and just put both on and see how it goes. Personally with Berserk coming out (being my favorite) and having a lot of both gore and sexual content id like to sit back and watch it here and not have to out source. Just my opinion though.
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I really don't care. At the end of the day it isn't real life. The censorship of sexual content in the US is ridiculously stupid though. Why is it such a big deal in comparison to the blood, gore, and violence that's in pretty much every popular game lately? Oh well I don't care. It might mean less little kids who don't do anything but scream into the mic at least.
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Really? I dunno about the rest of the states in the states, but in Texas, you can view any kind of sex as long as it isn't real. So... Yeah, you could watch "child porn" if it's animated and not actual kids. It isn't the same for all states?


I don't think so. I'm up in Canada myself and when it comes to animated things the law is kinda vauge. It says that any fiction or non-fiction depicting sexual events/themes of anyone under the age of 18 is considered child porn, this includes artwork and writings. But then we have gotten soooooo many "Questionable" manga series (Monster Musume being one) approved for sale here and you can even find the infamous book "Lolita" for sale in bookstores, so I am legitimately not sure where my own law stands on the matter. And from my understanding of the states as a whole it is different from state to state and part of why the "Lolicon and Shortacon" topics and such have been going on for as long as they have because no one can agree.

A while ago when I was checking into the legality of stuff (Because I don't want to accidentally break the law and end up in trouble) I remember reading in the states there was several cases where people went to court for "Loli pictures" and some were convicted as pedophiles and others were not convicted and simply let go. All depending upon the judge they got and how that judge interpreted the law. Some said that "animated child porn" was one step away from the real thing and convicted them. Yet others said that they were drawings and so didn't count because they were not real.


Ah, that's where the trick of words it. "Including art and writings." Art is generally protected by the 1st amendment here, but obviously you can't have a picture of a child having intercourse. Some states having much more specific wording under "possession of child pornography" and I do believe if the art makes it clear that the age of the child is child age in that state, the law is in effect regardless. Loli is generally known to be child porn, so I can see certain states pulling forth with charges like that, especially if their written law says something that includes artwork.

Greetings from Texas, dude!
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Huh, that is a pretty interesting rule there about it being protected under the first amendment. I really should check more into my own laws in other aspects, might be some law somewhere that makes those questionable manga and book series legal to be sold. Or I might have just misunderstood the law originally haha.

Greetings from Canada myself, beautiful up here! And yeah, we are pretty cold. Warmest it gets where I am is like 25C (77F) and the coldest we can get is -20C(-4F).


Also side note about Japan's laws, their current Child Porn laws were actually forced in the early 2000s by the UN. Before the law was implemented IIRC people as young as 14 (Maybe younger) could be in porn and it was entirely legal. During making of the laws the Japanese law makers realized that making the law super strict would have meant having to take several popular series off the air, including kids shows. So they left the loophole in it so that Animated characters of any age could have sexually questionable themes in shows and be legal, the law only allows for up to "Softcore" porn for characters under the age of 18, once it crosses over into "Hardcore" is when the law becomes broken. Which of course a lot of controversial and questionable series have taken advantage of this law and is why there is so much sexual content involving characters under the age of 18 in a lot of Anime.

Funny side note as well about gore in Japan, for video games some of the American games which were brought over they actually had to tone down the gore in them to make it suitable for Japanese audiences. So much like America censors sexual themes from Japan games, Japan censors the gore from American games.
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It is, but to an extent. In Texas, it can't be an obscenity. What counts as an obscenity? Good question because it's almost entirely subjective with a hint of common sense! In a nutshell, the age can't be said or obvious for it to be excused as legal. If in the artwork or in the video if it does say the age to be a minor, you can't watch that. Also, the Texas Penal Code doesn't directly say "including art and writing," but I'm sure the other wordings, like obscenity, will still count if it ever went to court. It only really states that it can't depict the resemblance of an actual child, so Loli pics would make sense to count as child porn in Texas under the obscenity clause because she looks like a child, despite it being hand drawn or what have you. However, I'm sure you know that there are some anime with questionable artwork where teenage anime girls look slightly older due to the body figure and that would be harder to prove if the age isn't direct.

I bet it's cold! All up north and stuff! It's really hot here. And humid... Though it's always humid here.
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I don't particularly like either, but then I'm more of a sci-fi nut to begin with. Gimme my beautiful space vessels anytime over anything else.
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I'd rather have blood and gore than sexual content.
Which one would you rather have your mother walk in on?


Sexual content because it makes me look less crazy.
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It is, but to an extent. In Texas, it can't be an obscenity. What counts as an obscenity? Good question because it's almost entirely subjective with a hint of common sense! In a nutshell, the age can't be said or obvious for it to be excused as legal. If in the artwork or in the video if it does say the age to be a minor, you can't watch that. Also, the Texas Penal Code doesn't directly say "including art and writing," but I'm sure the other wordings, like obscenity, will still count if it ever went to court. It only really states that it can't depict the resemblance of an actual child, so Loli pics would make sense to count as child porn in Texas under the obscenity clause because she looks like a child, despite it being hand drawn or what have you. However, I'm sure you know that there are some anime with questionable artwork where teenage anime girls look slightly older due to the body figure and that would be harder to prove if the age isn't direct.

I bet it's cold! All up north and stuff! It's really hot here. And humid... Though it's always humid here.


As a fellow Texan while that is the law, people are rarely concerned with it. Texas is too busy worrying about Mexicans and the distributors of actual child pornography.
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As a fellow Texan while that is the law, people are rarely concerned with it. Texas is too busy worrying about Mexicans and the distributors of actual child pornography.


That and gun rights. Also allowing mixed drinks to be served at all bars. I just won't ever understand why people care more about things like that over education or making sure laws are written well. Our great new governor cut education funds last year, particularly in those who major in criminal justice, slashing a good 30% of potential students at my community college. I just don't get it... Anyways, that's a topic of its own. D:

Child porn no good! Sexual content provides little depth into story, but "sexiness" could be a part of a character's design/personality.
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Cero_of_Clouds wrote:


It is, but to an extent. In Texas, it can't be an obscenity. What counts as an obscenity? Good question because it's almost entirely subjective with a hint of common sense! In a nutshell, the age can't be said or obvious for it to be excused as legal. If in the artwork or in the video if it does say the age to be a minor, you can't watch that. Also, the Texas Penal Code doesn't directly say "including art and writing," but I'm sure the other wordings, like obscenity, will still count if it ever went to court. It only really states that it can't depict the resemblance of an actual child, so Loli pics would make sense to count as child porn in Texas under the obscenity clause because she looks like a child, despite it being hand drawn or what have you. However, I'm sure you know that there are some anime with questionable artwork where teenage anime girls look slightly older due to the body figure and that would be harder to prove if the age isn't direct.

I bet it's cold! All up north and stuff! It's really hot here. And humid... Though it's always humid here[


Huh, that is very very interesting how it all works down there. Here we have a vague import law which has made me worried about importing any anime series. I am going to have to look it up later to double check, but I am pretty sure the importing law for sexual content was also anything that could count as obscene. I know whatever word they used when I looked it up it meant "Morally wrong". Which has made me very very cautious of importing anything even if I know worse is allowed here. Mainly because bookstores have said, the law people have abused it to stop shipments of material they didn't like such as stories with Homosexual relations. Though in all reality most people handling the mail probably don't care all too much. But it has made me worried to be importing any series from Japan haha.

BTW, funny enough about Loli (Nothing I am into is Loli, just using this as the continuation of the other topic before the shipping one) everyone I have met personally who admitted they were into it (I know at least 4 people) all of them 100% condemn actual child porn and are mainly into Loli for the ascetics of it. ((Funny enough most people I know who said they were into Loli are actually women. I only know 1 male who was, he was from Texas but I never spoke to him in years.))
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Blood and Gore is the best because I love horror anime and horror movies!
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Both i'm a believer in artistic freedom.
Berserk is a prime example of why both work and why sexual content isn't always exploitation.
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Both i'm a believer in artistic freedom.
Berserk is a prime example of why both work and why sexual content isn't always exploitation.


On the point about Berserk, people keep talking about how good the series is and how they are loving it. But like, how is the series for someone who doesn't really like dark serious shows? The only serious Anime I could really get into were "Claymore" and "Psycho Pass" With Claymore I could get into it because it wasn't always dark or serious, it felt like just following a bounty hunter around doing their job of killing monsters. And Psycho Pass I could also get into because it also wasn't always dark and serious, it had quite a number of funny moments and it reminded me a lot of detective shows which aired on Western TV a lot. Other then that, I avoid dark and serious most times.

So like, how is Berserk in comparison?
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So like, how is Berserk in comparison?

It's fine until the 'eclipse' hits at the final episodes.
It's nothing too bad in my opinion but if you're squeamish about finger nails being ripped off (higurashi) or limbs being torn off (ninja scroll) and or easily offended by rape i would advise against it.
However it's just gore without a filter i advise going into it just to see what you can and can't handle.
Treat it as entry level for the horror genre i also advise the 1997 tv series but you could watch the cg movies.
There's also Parasyte which is one of the easier titles to get into if you're starting out on gore, it's quite the rarity however for anything too extreme to pop up even in the case of movies and ova's.

Blood C is one of those examples where it's just nothing but gore porn and completely disgusting Corpse Party is also the only horror i have seen that doesn't pull any punches but i would recommend giving both Parasyte and Berserk a go if you're curious.
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Got plenty of both in Game of Thrones
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