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Last Week Tonight with John Oliver: Brexit (HBO)
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Posted 6/20/16

maxgale wrote:

John Oliver says to Remain, but himself came over to the U.S. rather than stay in the EU.



Hypocrite.


I can't tell whether or not this is a joke.
Posted 6/20/16

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maxgale wrote:

John Oliver says to Remain, but himself came over to the U.S. rather than stay in the EU.



Hypocrite.


I can't tell whether or not this is a joke.


Eh have you seen the comment section on Youtube? I can't tell who beeing serious and who joking. Am I haven't even taken a side yet. Brain hurts with this much stupid
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octorockandroll wrote:


I can't tell whether or not this is a joke.


Eh have you seen the comment section on Youtube? I can't tell who beeing serious and who joking. Am I haven't even taken a side yet. Brain hurts with this much stupid


Yeah, Im already having a hard day keeping up with stupid comments on the net so Ill take your word for that lol
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Kintor wrote:
Originally, you said I was trying to use the comments sections to gauge UK public opinion, I've already explained to you why that isn't the case. However, I simply observed that the negative reaction to John Oliver's video is an example that indicates that interest in the Brexit debate extends beyond the UK itself. Hardly a controversial observation when you think about it, even the existence of these Brexit thread on Crunchyroll further illustrates that the debate is drawing a lot of international attention in its final days before the vote.


First I said using Youtube comments to gauge anything of substance was foolhardy. Then I mentioned gauging the UK. Gauging, I might add, that you continue to do with no basis. Thus far you have claimed that he may have overextended his reach. Then that his appeal is condescending. Then that his input is lost in delivery. But then apparently found again as you claim this is going to push people towards the leave camp. Oh, and that his audience is limited ( despite the millions of viewers, more so than even the Daily Show, and millions of views. Nevermind universal acclaim. ).

You've done all of this with Youtube comments as the only point of reference you mentioned. Which I should point out there are 2.4 million views vs 21,000 comments vs 12,500 dislikes vs 67,000 likes.

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Screw the EU. EarthGov FTW!
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Screw the EU. EarthGov FTW!


EarthGov? Hahaha!

I think what you meant to say was...

The Canadian Empire!


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runec wrote:

You've done all of this with Youtube comments as the only point of reference you mentioned. Which I should point out there are 2.4 million views vs 21,000 comments vs 12,500 dislikes vs 67,000 likes.

Sheesh... you're really making a mountain out of a molehill here. The trend for international comments to get involved in the Brexit debate is quickly becoming a common sight on the internet, as this thread amply illustrates. I used John Oliver's video as touchstone, to keep things on topic, since this whole thread is meant to be about the video anyway.


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So you're saying that while appearing to oppose this 'Brexit' thing, he is in actuality helping people to decide that the UK breaking out of the EU is a good thing.

Pretty much, although perhaps not intentionally. Based on his past political stances, I believe that John Oliver is sincere in his desire to see the UK remain part of the EU. However, his video is so tone deaf and outright offensive to British voters that it's going to inadvertently help the leave cause.


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Well, if Oliver gets anywhere up to the point that Dennis Miller had with his non-stop illustrative pop-reference analogies on the late-80's SNL ("Yeah, listening to Dan Quayle explain politics is like listening to Mr. Speedy-Delivery explain the Inside-Fly rule...."), he's got a shot at Stewart's ballpark.

Point is, it's not simply the egotistic cult-of-character comedy of Stephen Colbert, like Stewart, he seems to have some genuine interest in breaking down the absurdity of the message and getting it across without preaching. (Which, frankly Stewart was more and more failing to do near the end of his run, when it just started becoming all about gay marriage and vets' hospitals, and anally fact-checking anything a Fox News reporter said on it five years ago.)
I judge a Stewart throne-pretender by whether he can make any active perception-shaping editorial on the news to compete with Stewart's breakdown of North Korea's military or George W. Bush's speech style, and Oliver's Wall and Brexit pieces already qualify for that honor.

I get where you're coming from, it's hard to find a replacement for Jon Stewart and we shouldn't expect John Oliver to copy the Daily Show's style, that would be boring. Yet at the end of the day I just don't find John Oliver anywhere near as funny as John Stewart was at his height. I mean, I didn't start out hating John Oliver's routines; some of his early stuff for Last Week Tonight was brilliant, with two of my favourites being his segments on Nuclear Weapons and Predatory Lending. These sketches where something new, something creative, it filled the gap left by the departure of Jon Stewart from the Daily Show.

It's just that eventually I stopped watching John Oliver, like I said earlier; all his routines tend to follow the same formula. If you've seen one John Oliver rant then you've seen them all, which is a shame because the guy is obviously quite passionate about the topics he covers. This latest video, focusing on the Brexit debate, is another example of the sort of comedy I’ve come to ignore from John Oliver. Starting with a mocking of the British people that borders on self-loathing (not an uncommon attitude for British people of John Oliver’s generation), only to be punctuated by fits of high-pitched shouting when he wants to bring a point home.


Posted 6/20/16

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mlchanges wrote:

Screw the EU. EarthGov FTW!


EarthGov? Hahaha!

I think what you meant to say was...

The Canadian Empire!




I rather let ISIS take over then.
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KarenAraragi wrote:


walker1455 wrote:


mlchanges wrote:

Screw the EU. EarthGov FTW!


EarthGov? Hahaha!

I think what you meant to say was...

The Canadian Empire!




I rather let ISIS take over then.


We'd be benevolent rulers. Subjects would only be required to say "eh" at the end of every third sentence, only every second nation will have to have their signs also written in Canadien French, and Saskatchewan will only require 100 virgin sacrifices as tribute from each vassal to insure a bountiful harvest.
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Posted 6/21/16 , edited 6/21/16

walker1455 wrote:


KarenAraragi wrote:


walker1455 wrote:

EarthGov? Hahaha!

I think what you meant to say was...

The Canadian Empire!




I rather let ISIS take over then.


We'd be benevolent rulers. Subjects would only be required to say "eh" at the end of every third sentence, only every second nation will have to have their signs also written in Canadien French, and Saskatchewan will only require 100 virgin sacrifices as tribute from each vassal to insure a bountiful harvest.


Saskatchewan needs to receive sacrifices now? What are you, Stephen Harper?
Posted 6/21/16


Nope. You basters gave birth to this.
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Nope. You basters gave birth to this.


No, fuck you. When he was in our country he was a dorky kid singing on youtube. It's america that turned him into what he is today, don't blame us for your fuckups.
Posted 6/21/16

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KarenAraragi wrote:



Nope. You basters gave birth to this.


No, fuck you. When he was in our country he was a dorky kid singing on youtube. It's america that turned him into what he is today, don't blame us for your fuckups.


His parents are Canadian. Thus Canada fuckups.
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KarenAraragi wrote:


octorockandroll wrote:


KarenAraragi wrote:



Nope. You basters gave birth to this.


No, fuck you. When he was in our country he was a dorky kid singing on youtube. It's america that turned him into what he is today, don't blame us for your fuckups.


His parents are Canadian. Thus Canada fuckups.



You guys took him away from his parents when he was like, what, thirteen? They don't hold responsibility for his bullshit
Posted 6/21/16


His parents allow that. Canada did nothing.
Also you allow this shit head to dress like this.

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