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Parents of black girl with horrific rope burns to her neck 'inflicted by white classmates on purpose' sue their private $7,000-a-year school for $3 million

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Girl was on a school trip when rope swing got caught around her neck
12-year-old believes three white boys tied it around her neck on purpose
Her mother claims the attack was racially motivated and is suing for $3m
School did not tell the mother her daughter was injured until after the trip
Officials said family lawyers were exploiting the girl's race to make money
Girl is one of just four black children at the predominantly white school

The parents of a 12-year-old black girl who came back from a school trip with severe rope burns around her neck on an overnight school trip are suing the school for $3 million in a lawsuit filed this week.

The lawsuit was filed in Travis County against Live Oak Classical School and Lawrence Germer, the owner of the ranch where the sixth-graders went on a school trip.

Sandy Rougely, the girl's mother, has claimed her daughter was racially attacked and her daughter thinks that three white boys tied the rope around her neck on purpose.


Ms Rougely told the Dallas Morning News that her daughter's severe bruising made it look like someone 'ripped her neck apart and stitched it back together'.

But her classmates say it was a simple accident when a rope swing got caught around her neck.

The class were playing with the swing, which worked by a child sitting in the seat while the other children pulled a rope to create a pendulum-like motion.

The 12-year-old had stopped to watch when she suddenly felt the rope going around her neck from behind, before it pulled against her and dragged across the ground.


The girl - who is one of just four black children at the $7,000-a-year private school - said the boys had hold of the rope but it fell to the ground when they let go of it.

'That's why I think it was on purpose,' the girl said. 'I think someone tried to tie it around my neck.'


She asked the boys whether they did it on purpose but they denied doing so.

The school's attorney, David Deaconson, said that the school will 'stand behind the facts' and that the girl's injuries were an 'unfortunate accident,' not the result of bullying.

'We all know anybody can allege anything in a lawsuit. That doesn't make it true,' Deaconson said to the Dallas Morning News.

'We also need to keep in mind we've got 12-year-old kids involved, and adults need to react in a way that doesn't put the 12-year-olds' safety at risk, which many of them already have.'

The lawsuit seeks more than $3 million in damages to 'not only compensate the victims in this case, but to deter this type of egregious conduct from others in the future, and to serve as an example to all educational institutions that this type of behavior is unacceptable with regard to both the treatment of children and their parents,' court records show.

A statement from the school reads: 'The lawyer claimed that the student's injuries were racially motivated, intentional attack. Live Oak takes this accusation seriously. The school interviewed all student eyewitnesses and teachers who were present and each independently established that the accusation made by the attorney is absolutely false. The injuries were caused accidentally while the students were playing with the swing and attached pull rope.'

The mother said her daughter has been bullied by children at the school for months, with students pushing, kicking and making fun of her on a regular basis.


She said the first thing she knew about her daughter being hurt was when she returned from the camp-out with the ligature mark around her neck.

Ms Rougely added that none of the teachers or parents who were on the class trip saw the incident.

A doctor who was on the trip because she is one of the children's mothers gave the girl ibuprofen and rubbed Vaseline on her neck.

The school did not comment on why it did not call Ms Rougely.

The school's dean Allison Buras emailed Ms Rougely the day after the trip ended to check on how the girl was doing.

'Did you take her to the doctor? How is she? We were glad to have a doctor on our trip who could check her out or we also might have felt a need to take her in. I remember getting rope burns as a child and they are not fun! I hope she is doing OK,' the email said.

Ms Rougely said her daughter's injuries did not come from a rope burn.

She took her to hospital the night she came home from the class trip, where doctors scanned the girl's spine because of pain she was experiencing in her neck and shoulders.

The girl was prescribed more ibuprofen, antibiotics and an inhaler.

Police officers took photos of the injuries but no one has been accused of breaking the law.

'I think there was prejudice at the root of all of this. I didn't want to say it at first. I didn't want to see it like this, in this way,' Ms Rougely said.

'But as I go back and think about the different things that were going on and occurring in the school year, that's all I can see. And nobody did anything about it.'

Lawyer Levi McCathern, who also represents the Dallas Cowboys, blasted the school for its 'tone-deaf approach'.

'For Live Oak to bury their head in the sand and chalk this incident up to 'kids being kids' is irresponsible but, unfortunately, all too common,' he said.

Fellow attorney T. J. Jones said: 'I don't know how you can look at her neck, at the pictures and think this was anything but intentional.'

The school accused the attorneys of exploiting the 100th anniversary of the lynching of Jesse Washington in Waco and said the lawyers were only interested in making a fast buck.

Washington was beaten, castrated, had his fingers chopped off and was strung up by a chain before being burned alive in 1916 after being convicted in a kangaroo court of murdering and raping the wife of his white employer.

A school spokesman said: 'The lawyer claimed that the student's injuries were [from a] racially motivated, intentional attack. Live Oak takes this accusation seriously.

'The school interviewed all student witnesses and teachers who were present and each independently established that the accusation made by the attorney is absolutely false. The injuries were caused accidentally while the students were playing with the swing and attached pull rope.

'The attorney was advised of the results of the interviews.'


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3646015/Parents-black-girl-horrific-rope-burns-neck-inflicted-white-boys-bus-sue-private-school-3-million.html

I think the School being sued is justified. They neglected to report the accident when it actually happened.

What I don't agree with is the mom pulling the race card right off the bat. There's no evidence of an attack on the girl, let alone it being racially motivated.
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Can someone explain to me how exactly would there be evidence of a race crime?
even if i do say "he i'm attacking you because i don't like your race" but were the only two people in the room how can you prove that as the reason? i mean unless you recorded me.
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Shouldn't have swung that neck so hard.
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too much to read, can somebody give me the short version?
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I agree that the mom shouldn't be pulling out the racism card just yet, but I won't judge her for it. Her daughter was just the victim of an absolutely horrible and violent crime soon after that whole Orlando shooting. I would probably make the same assumption if I were in her shoes.
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too much to read, can somebody give me the short version?


Black girl gets hurt while at a camp on a rope swing. Three white boys present. Camp staff treat her and figure all is well and good since it's hardly life threatening. Girl comes home and mother seems rope burn marks that haven't gone away yet. Mother immediately dues school for 3 millions claiming that it was a race hate crime by the white students because she was black and that it's both to pay for he injury (her minor injury that she was able to get home with just fine) as well a to deter any more hate crimes.

Additionally there is no proof of it injury being intentional nor that any racial hate was going on.



So to put it even more simply the mother is either a greedy pig who is trying to use her daughters injury to milk money from the school or is one of those idiots who think everythign against them is a racial hate crime.

When it's a white person and a black person you aren't allowed to dislike them as a person or be a prick in general. It's always because they are black and never anything else and it's so fucking stupid I wish I could slap this woman.

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TheOmegaForce70941 wrote:

too much to read, can somebody give me the short version?


Black girl gets hurt while at a camp on a rope swing. Three white boys present. Camp staff treat her and figure all is well and good since it's hardly life threatening. Girl comes home and mother seems rope burn marks that haven't gone away yet. Mother immediately dues school for 3 millions claiming that it was a race hate crime by the white students because she was black and that it's both to pay for he injury (her minor injury that she was able to get home with just fine) as well a to deter any more hate crimes.

Additionally there is no proof of it injury being intentional nor that any racial hate was going on.



So to put it even more simply the mother is either a greedy pig who is trying to use her daughters injury to milk money from the school or is one of those idiots who think everythign against them is a racial hate crime.

When it's a white person and a black person you aren't allowed to dislike them as a person or be a prick in general. It's always because they are black and never anything else and it's so fucking stupid I wish I could slap this woman.



This girl had a significant history of being bullied at this school, and then this highly unlikely supposed accident happens to her? Uh yeah, of course people are gonna start thinking this was intentional. I'm not saying that it necessarily was intentional or racially motivated, but to just up and dismiss the likely possibility that it was the result of bullying is fucking stupid. At least when the mom made wild allegations she has the excuse of suddenly finding out that her daughter was painfully injured in an alleged act of bullying way too long after the fact, so of course she's going to start assuming the worst case scenario. If you're going to assault a woman for making unsupported allegations, then I assume you also won't mind someone doing the same to you seeing as you have no issue with leaping to conclusions either.
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Metazoxan wrote:


TheOmegaForce70941 wrote:

too much to read, can somebody give me the short version?


Black girl gets hurt while at a camp on a rope swing. Three white boys present. Camp staff treat her and figure all is well and good since it's hardly life threatening. Girl comes home and mother seems rope burn marks that haven't gone away yet. Mother immediately dues school for 3 millions claiming that it was a race hate crime by the white students because she was black and that it's both to pay for he injury (her minor injury that she was able to get home with just fine) as well a to deter any more hate crimes.

Additionally there is no proof of it injury being intentional nor that any racial hate was going on.



So to put it even more simply the mother is either a greedy pig who is trying to use her daughters injury to milk money from the school or is one of those idiots who think everythign against them is a racial hate crime.

When it's a white person and a black person you aren't allowed to dislike them as a person or be a prick in general. It's always because they are black and never anything else and it's so fucking stupid I wish I could slap this woman.



Wow, fuck you asshole.

This girl had a significant history of being bullied at this school, and then this highly unlikely supposed accident happens to her? Uh yeah, of course people are gonna start thinking this was intentional. I'm not saying that it necessarily was intentional or racially motivated, but to just up and dismiss the likely possibility that it was the result of bullying is fucking stupid. At least when the mom made wild allegations she has the excuse of suddenly finding out that her daughter was painfully injured in an alleged act of bullying way too long after the fact, so of course she's going to start assuming the worst case scenario. If you're going to assault a woman for making unsupported allegations, then I assume you also won't mind someone doing the same to you seeing as you have no issue with leaping to conclusions either.


Her mom saying that she was bullied is not significant.
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Wow, fuck you asshole.

This girl had a significant history of being bullied at this school, and then this highly unlikely supposed accident happens to her? Uh yeah, of course people are gonna start thinking this was intentional. I'm not saying that it necessarily was intentional or racially motivated, but to just up and dismiss the likely possibility that it was the result of bullying is fucking stupid. At least when the mom made wild allegations she has the excuse of suddenly finding out that her daughter was painfully injured in an alleged act of bullying way too long after the fact, so of course she's going to start assuming the worst case scenario. If you're going to assault a woman for making unsupported allegations, then I assume you also won't mind someone doing the same to you seeing as you have no issue with leaping to conclusions either.


Her mom saying that she was bullied is not significant.


Actually that is very significant. Like, extremely so. If there is a precedent for this girl being bullied, especially if it's by these kids that allegedly comitted the supposed attack, then that would suggest pretty damn strongly that this was indeed an intentional act of bullying. Now of course the allegation that it was racially motivated is still unsupported, but if what the mom says about the bullying history is true then that would point very strongly towards the possibility that the children were indeed bullying the girl.
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Wow, fuck you asshole.

This girl had a significant history of being bullied at this school, and then this highly unlikely supposed accident happens to her? Uh yeah, of course people are gonna start thinking this was intentional. I'm not saying that it necessarily was intentional or racially motivated, but to just up and dismiss the likely possibility that it was the result of bullying is fucking stupid. At least when the mom made wild allegations she has the excuse of suddenly finding out that her daughter was painfully injured in an alleged act of bullying way too long after the fact, so of course she's going to start assuming the worst case scenario. If you're going to assault a woman for making unsupported allegations, then I assume you also won't mind someone doing the same to you seeing as you have no issue with leaping to conclusions either.


Her mom saying that she was bullied is not significant.


Actually that is very significant. Like, extremely so. If there is a precedent for this girl being bullied, especially if it's by these kids that allegedly comitted the supposed attack, then that would suggest pretty damn strongly that this was indeed an intentional act of bullying. Now of course the allegation that it was racially motivated is still unsupported, but if what the mom says about the bullying history is true then that would point very strongly towards the possibility that the children were indeed bullying the girl.


If she was really being bullied the mom should have filled out some complaints against the school, there would be records of it. If there is no proof, it's just her word.

If my daughter was being bullied at a school I'd make complaints and make sure she didn't keep going to that school. I wouldn't keep her there.
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octorockandroll wrote:

This girl had a significant history of being bullied at this school, and then this highly unlikely supposed accident happens to her? Uh yeah, of course people are gonna start thinking this was intentional. I'm not saying that it necessarily was intentional or racially motivated, but to just up and dismiss the likely possibility that it was the result of bullying is fucking stupid. At least when the mom made wild allegations she has the excuse of suddenly finding out that her daughter was painfully injured in an alleged act of bullying way too long after the fact, so of course she's going to start assuming the worst case scenario. If you're going to assault a woman for making unsupported allegations, then I assume you also won't mind someone doing the same to you seeing as you have no issue with leaping to conclusions either.


Her mom saying that she was bullied is not significant.


Actually that is very significant. Like, extremely so. If there is a precedent for this girl being bullied, especially if it's by these kids that allegedly comitted the supposed attack, then that would suggest pretty damn strongly that this was indeed an intentional act of bullying. Now of course the allegation that it was racially motivated is still unsupported, but if what the mom says about the bullying history is true then that would point very strongly towards the possibility that the children were indeed bullying the girl.


It's the fact she's bringing race into this that I primarily have a problem with it. It's like she's saying "there is no other reason my daughter would be picked on except that she's black" as if she's somehow special. I was picked on as a kid and I'm white. Kids can just be dicks regardnless of race and trying to milk 3 million from this by pulling the race card is just disgusting IMO.

Even if she is a victim of bullying that doesn't make every incident intentional and even if it was intentional she doesn't need 3 freaking million as payment. Kids gets bullied all the time. It sucks but it's just a thing that will never really change because that is just how youth and even people in general are. What makes this case so "special" that she deserves 3 million? Where is my 3 million? What about all the other kids bullied? Schools aren't just made of money even private ones. So IMO this woman has a lot of nerve asking for that kind of money for a relatively minor injury.

if the girl was crippled or something then I could understand but besides some burn marks she's fine. Again it happens and while the bullies should indeed be punished there is still no need to pull the race card or ask for that much money. ESPECIALLY since there is still no real proof it was intentional.

Even if the chances it was intentional are high you can't sue someone for something "might have happened" you need at least some kind of proof besides words.
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octorockandroll wrote:


D4nc3Style wrote:

Her mom saying that she was bullied is not significant.


Actually that is very significant. Like, extremely so. If there is a precedent for this girl being bullied, especially if it's by these kids that allegedly comitted the supposed attack, then that would suggest pretty damn strongly that this was indeed an intentional act of bullying. Now of course the allegation that it was racially motivated is still unsupported, but if what the mom says about the bullying history is true then that would point very strongly towards the possibility that the children were indeed bullying the girl.


If she was really being bullied the mom should have filled out some complaints against the school, there would be records of it. If there is no proof, it's just her word.

If my daughter was being bullied at a school I'd make complaints and make sure she didn't keep going to that school. I wouldn't keep her there.


Well first of all no, the mother would not necessarily need to fill out complaints about the bullying issue and even if she did we do not know that she didn't. Nothing about what you're saying justifies assuming completely that the alleged attack was an accident. And it certainly doesn't justify assaulting the mom
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It's the fact she's bringing race into this that I primarily have a problem with it. It's like she's saying "there is no other reason my daughter would be picked on except that she's black" as if she's somehow special. I was picked on as a kid and I'm white. Kids can just be dicks regardnless of race and trying to milk 3 million from this by pulling the race card is just disgusting IMO.

Even if she is a victim of bullying that doesn't make every incident intentional and even if it was intentional she doesn't need 3 freaking million as payment.


Oh I totally agree. Unless there are some giant issues woth the school that we don't know about yet (which I find possible but not remotely likely) there is no way she should be getting 3 mil. I'm totally okay with the school being sued because not telling the mom what happened to her daughter is ridiculously irresponsible. It would be irresponsible for a babysitter, let alone a 7k a year provate school. But yeah she shoudl not get 3 million off of this.
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The one time Black Lives Matter and Al Sharpton could be useful, they are nowhere to be found. Aint this some shit.
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