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Just a thought I noticed. It seems a fair number of people when it comes to Anime are mostly only interested in whatever the newest series to hit the market is and a fair amount of times people don't normally go back to watch older series unless they are caught up on the newer series.

Is there any particular reason?

I mean, only things I can think of off the top of my head is;

1. People want to be a part of the conversation about the series as it is happening. To feel included.

2. Since they are the newest series they are the ones being advertised the most and the ones new people are likely to start on.

3. They have caught up on all the older series they wanted to see.

Any other reasons then these 3 as to why people tend to focus more upon the newer series?




Also, as a side note... do people, once an Anime ends, drop the series all together? Even if there is still a source material to read and catch up on? It just seems that once a series is out of "New" status people never mention the series again, some people might make recommendations for the series from time to time but no new discussions ever seem to really pop up regarding the source, or people just don't seem too interested in talking about the series after they finished. Least what is what I noticed around where I live and from a few different forums I've been to.
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Because people are mainstream and listen to Nicki Minaj and Ariana Grande just because its new, despite older songs being better. Such people are trash and deserve death.
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There is only so much time in a day, and older shows with 2000 episodes can be a bit daunting.

As to 'source materials' and such nonsense, not everyone really has the time, money, or access to those things.
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There is only so much time in a day, and older shows with 2000 episodes can be a bit daunting.

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Not even just the ones with a million episodes, I've noticed it happens with the shorter ones too. Once they are no longer new a lot of fairly good series end up becoming forgotten over time and only the bigger names remain in peoples minds normally.

Though I can agree about the not enough time in the day. back when I had less free time I could only spare maybe 4 hours max before bed unless it was a day off. So a lot of my interests during that time became neglected. Which is a huge part of why I am not following the newer series myself all too much because I have so much catching up to do with older series and my other interests too.
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There are fewer newer shows than older shows and they have less episodes to catch up on. What I mean is, it's a lot easier to pick something to watch out of a new releases line up than to search around for whatever interests you in the older stuff.

Plus, there are less formed opinions about new stuff, versus old series with an established fanbase. Those can be much harder to get into.

It's a lot about time too, like, it takes a lot less time to catch up or stay caught up on newer stuff because you only have to watch one episode a week. Versus being caught up on a show with 50 episodes. Some people don't have time to watch or rewatch old shows, even ones with 30 or so episodes.
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gornotck wrote:

There is only so much time in a day, and older shows with 2000 episodes can be a bit daunting.

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Not even just the ones with a million episodes, I've noticed it happens with the shorter ones too. Once they are no longer new a lot of fairly good series end up becoming forgotten over time and only the bigger names remain in peoples minds normally.

Though I can agree about the not enough time in the day. back when I had less free time I could only spare maybe 4 hours max before bed unless it was a day off. So a lot of my interests during that time became neglected. Which is a huge part of why I am not following the newer series myself all too much because I have so much catching up to do with older series and my other interests too.


Indeed. Recently, I had to downgrade to a lesser quality internet service (it still claims to be 'broadband', but definitely is not), and it can take me several hours to watch even short videos because of buffering times. So it could be any number of thing spilling into one cup.

People forget what is not 'new' almost immediately. That's people. They move on to the next shiny object until that object is replaced by the next and so on. It has been suggested, and I believe there have been studies on this, that this is brought into an extreme by the sheer amount of information and entertainment available to everyone, encouraging them to go from one thing to the next through both peer pressure and whimsy.

Then there's the 'see it first' aspect. There is no glory in watching what your peer group considers old and "trash", a concept that bothers me. It's a misplaced competitive reflex that really should be directed into more productive purposes.
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Indeed. Recently, I had to downgrade to a lesser quality internet service (it still claims to be 'broadband', but definitely is not), and it can take me several hours to watch even short videos because of buffering times. So it could be any number of thing spilling into one cup.

People forget what is not 'new' almost immediately. That's people. They move on to the next shiny object until that object is replaced by the next and so on. It has been suggested, and I believe there have been studies on this, that this is brought into an extreme by the sheer amount of information and entertainment available to everyone, encouraging them to go from one thing to the next through both peer pressure and whimsy.

Then there's the 'see it first' aspect. There is no glory in watching what your peer group considers old and "trash", a concept that bothers me. It's a misplaced competitive reflex that really should be directed into more productive purposes
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Yeah, I hear ya on that downgrade, sounds like horrible internet. But ya need to do what you gotta do.

I only really add new things to my list of series once in a blue moon if something catches my eye. Which is maybe only 5-10 things per year at this point in time. But I end up switching between the series and shows I am into until they are finished or I get bored and move on to the next item on my list until all things are covered... eventually. Rather interesting about the study though, that would make a LOT of sense as to why people do end up doing that.

For me, with any series but mainly anime lately (Computer has been acting up so gaming is not working the way I want it to) I end up checking into everything about it. With the Anime, if I liked it/finished it and the anime didn't cover everything I will look for the source material and add it to my wishlist of things to get. Or with a game I will check into all the older games in a series if I liked the newest one, sometimes even going so far as to checking out an entire companies catalog of games. Hell, I am even trying to learn Japanese just so I can import some of my interests or to better understand them. (Though I keep getting distracted... so learning has been slow)
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Yeah, I hear ya on that downgrade, sounds like horrible internet. But ya need to do what you gotta do.

I only really add new things to my list of series once in a blue moon if something catches my eye. Which is maybe only 5-10 things per year at this point in time. But I end up switching between the series and shows I am into until they are finished or I get bored and move on to the next item on my list until all things are covered... eventually. Rather interesting about the study though, that would make a LOT of sense as to why people do end up doing that.

For me, with any series but mainly anime lately (Computer has been acting up so gaming is not working the way I want it to) I end up checking into everything about it. With the Anime, if I liked it/finished it and the anime didn't cover everything I will look for the source material and add it to my wishlist of things to get. Or with a game I will check into all the older games in a series if I liked the newest one, sometimes even going so far as to checking out an entire companies catalog of games. Hell, I am even trying to learn Japanese just so I can import some of my interests or to better understand them. (Though I keep getting distracted... so learning has been slow)


Yeah. I haven't maintained my Japanese studies either. Not to import interests, or even better understand them, but to expand them. There's more to Japanese media than anime, light novels, and manga, obviously.

How do you check out the older games? Read about them? Purchase them?
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SDtheElf wrote:
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Yeah, I hear ya on that downgrade, sounds like horrible internet. But ya need to do what you gotta do.

I only really add new things to my list of series once in a blue moon if something catches my eye. Which is maybe only 5-10 things per year at this point in time. But I end up switching between the series and shows I am into until they are finished or I get bored and move on to the next item on my list until all things are covered... eventually. Rather interesting about the study though, that would make a LOT of sense as to why people do end up doing that.

For me, with any series but mainly anime lately (Computer has been acting up so gaming is not working the way I want it to) I end up checking into everything about it. With the Anime, if I liked it/finished it and the anime didn't cover everything I will look for the source material and add it to my wishlist of things to get. Or with a game I will check into all the older games in a series if I liked the newest one, sometimes even going so far as to checking out an entire companies catalog of games. Hell, I am even trying to learn Japanese just so I can import some of my interests or to better understand them. (Though I keep getting distracted... so learning has been slow)


Yeah. I haven't maintained my Japanese studies either. Not to import interests, or even better understand them, but to expand them. There's more to Japanese media than anime, light novels, and manga, obviously.

How do you check out the older games? Read about them? Purchase them?


Yeah, there is a lot more to Japanese media then just what gets over here. I kinda want to one day be able to experience as many cultures as possible. Experiencing is the quickest way to understanding after all, and it helps sharpen the mind. If only more people were willing to try and learn about other cultures, the world would be a much nicer place over all. Least..., I think so.


As for games, all depends really. Some games if I can find for a reasonable price I will buy them, others the owner of the rights might put them up for free occasionally (This happened with TES1 and TES2. They even had it pre-loaded into a DOS emulator for you), and if the series is really hard to find or expensive then I might just look up the details online or through youtube videos. But a few I never give out on one day obtaining for myself.
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Hmm, never really thought about it.

I myself usually watch one or two older shows if a season is slow for me, but I do tend to be more interested in newer stuff and will catch up on new shows before I continue watching older ones.

One reason I started doing this was to avoid spoilers. I started prioritizing newer shows because headlines and new images would come out pretty much on the same day that the shows were airing.

Another reason was because most simulcasting services, like CR for example, tend to focus on newer shows. The catalog here, while full of shows I adore, isn't very expansive in the grand scheme of things.

Finally, newer shows are more "unknown". With older shows and catalog titles, you can read reviews and get a general feel for how much they'll appeal to you. With currently airing shows, you have to keep up with them just to find out if they are any good. Sometimes I even keep watching them even though I dislike them because i've invested too much time in them to drop them.

Thus, newer shows get prioritized and I put a lot of older stuff on hold while I catch up on them. But all this only applies to me personally. Don't know about everyone else.



As for your other question, I myself never continue a show by going to the source material. I judge a show based on how well it stands on its own, and that's one reason why my opinion of a show will drastically decrease if it doesn't have a proper ending (OR doesn't need one, as is the case with some SoL shows). I do that not because I'm just interested in new stuff, but more as a matter of principle.

But again, that's just me
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Huh, very interesting response. I love being able to get people to think about things they never gave any/much thought to before. Helps the brain out.

All the reasons you listed for gravitating towards the newer shows more does make a lot of sense over all I think. I personally never really read reviews of series, I just go into it based upon the description of it the websites normally have or if I am on the fence after reading the description I might wait for a clip to be released if FUNimation is doing it. Otherwise I would just load it up and give the first 2 episodes a try and see if it clicks.


As for the topic of source material, rather interesting way of looking at it. The only time I end up judging a series for the ending is if it was an anime orginal, but those normally end up being finished in a single season or gives it a good enough ending. For all the shows I watch to the end I normally end up falling in love with the plot or characters, normally the characters, so I end up wanting to see more. To see what other adventures they get themselves up to, and in a lot of cases to see how the story ends. Sure a lot of the series still end decently, but you can still tell there is more. So that is the main reason I get the source material or read it online from like CR.
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Huh, very interesting response. I love being able to get people to think about things they never gave any/much thought to before. Helps the brain out.

All the reasons you listed for gravitating towards the newer shows more does make a lot of sense over all I think. I personally never really read reviews of series, I just go into it based upon the description of it the websites normally have or if I am on the fence after reading the description I might wait for a clip to be released if FUNimation is doing it. Otherwise I would just load it up and give the first 2 episodes a try and see if it clicks.


As for the topic of source material, rather interesting way of looking at it. The only time I end up judging a series for the ending is if it was an anime orginal, but those normally end up being finished in a single season or gives it a good enough ending. For all the shows I watch to the end I normally end up falling in love with the plot or characters, normally the characters, so I end up wanting to see more. To see what other adventures they get themselves up to, and in a lot of cases to see how the story ends. Sure a lot of the series still end decently, but you can still tell there is more. So that is the main reason I get the source material or read it online from like CR.


It's an interesting topic because I never payed much mind i to whether I was watching new or old stuff. I just keep a list of all the stuff that interests me and organize it such that I spread out what i'm watching for the week. Thus, I end up watching older shows almost as though they were simulcasts.

I can more or less tell whether i'd like or dislike a show from the description as well, but my tastes are quite specific, so it leads to me ignoring quite a few shows. Reading reviews allows me to see if my gut reaction was likely correct, or if I may have been mistaken. If I feel that's the case, I may give it a try anyway. Ironically, I really only read reviews for shows that *don't* interest me

As for the endings thing, I just need closure in what i'm watching. I think I may be obsessive about that though. I don't even like music that doesn't have closure. For example songs that just "fade out" - can't stand those! Maybe I'm just crazy

You know, it's funny because since I don't read source material, i'm actually more likely to think positively of adaptations of ongoing material that have anime original endings. While manga readers are all in an uproar, my usual reaction is "I'm okay with this". I completely understand what you mean about wanting to see more of the characters though. I get that sensation as well, but like to leave it up to my imagination and make my own headcanon.

But sometimes it's painful to take the stance that I do.

'Sigh'

Still don't know what's in the basement.
Still don't know what happened to Clare and Raki.
Still don't know if Holo made it to Yoitsu

'Sigh'
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Don't get me wrong, I love old anime, but when it comes to new anime, nobody knows (assuming there's no manga) whether or not it's going to be good or not. When it comes to older anime, a quick MAL search will bring up reviews by anime critics on whether or not the anime is worth a watch. Which by the way, MAL is convenient af for finding good anime to watch lol.

Also it's exciting to see what they can do with the animation.
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