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Journalists complaining about lack of female characters is CENSORSHIP in the eyes of Minecraft creator
Posted 6/23/16 , edited 6/23/16
Journalists complaining about lack of female characters is CENSORSHIP in the eyes of Minecraft creator
So what you guys think? I think he right.

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Posted 6/23/16 , edited 6/23/16
Criticizing is no more censorship than him criticizing them. There's nothing wrong with asking, but demanding is a whole different beast, and assuming everyone who wants a female character are demanding it is to demonize the entire front. Since when is complaining censorship?
Posted 6/23/16
When listing video game names did that guy just call The Legend of Zelda, Link :'(
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Posted 6/23/16

PeripheralVisionary wrote:

Criticizing is no more censorship than him criticizing them. There's nothing wrong with asking, but demanding is a whole different beast, and assuming everyone who wants a female character are demanding it is to demonize the entire front. Since when is complaining censorship?


Since they are trying to force him, or others, to have certain things due to seeing the lack of it as being politically unacceptable or harmful to society.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/censor
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/censorship
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Posted 6/23/16
It's a bit of a stretch to call it censorship when people are saying your work should have included _____. I do agree with the guy though. Unless you're producing someone's product, it's not your place to say someone's idea should be changed to better suit you.
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Posted 6/23/16
I don't care. Video games can be fun for either gender. Why does being male or female in a game matter? It's not like half of anyone is gonna use their real gender anyways. Think about RPGs with their G.I.R.Ls. Guys In Real Life.
Point is WHY ARE YOU MAKING GENDER SOMETHING IMPORTANT IN A FICTIONAL WORLD?
Only the BEST predicaments for us gamers, huh?
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Posted 6/23/16
I wouldn't even say if you're producing. Developers who let producers push them around make bad product.
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Posted 6/23/16

gornotck wrote:


PeripheralVisionary wrote:

Criticizing is no more censorship than him criticizing them. There's nothing wrong with asking, but demanding is a whole different beast, and assuming everyone who wants a female character are demanding it is to demonize the entire front. Since when is complaining censorship?


Since they are trying to force him, or others, to have certain things due to seeing the lack of it as being politically unacceptable or harmful to society.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/censor
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/censorship


I don't see where the question ties this in to his answer, but while I do "agree" that their is a lot of bending the the game and harming creative freedom, a suggestion never hurts. Though forcing does fall under censorship in my opinion, but again, the questions only mentions criticizing.
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Posted 6/23/16 , edited 6/23/16

PeripheralVisionary wrote:


I don't see where the question ties this in to his answer, but while I do "agree" that their is a lot of bending the the game and harming creative freedom, a suggestion never hurts. Though forcing does fall under censorship in my opinion, but again, the questions only mentions criticizing.


Criticizing, complaining, by journalists and, perhaps to a lesser degree, gamers creates a feeling of pressure on people like development teams and more importantly producers who control the paychecks. This apparently creates situations where a producer says to the development team that if they don't include <x>, in this case women player characters, they're going to probably cut off the cash, even if the project does not have room for a player character woman. If the development team doesn't have the stones to say that it can't be done, the product is made less than it could be because of misplaced resources. Gamers and journalists then complain about that, and the development team has a more difficult time with the next project.

That is my understanding, at least.
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Posted 6/23/16

gornotck wrote:


PeripheralVisionary wrote:


I don't see where the question ties this in to his answer, but while I do "agree" that their is a lot of bending the the game and harming creative freedom, a suggestion never hurts. Though forcing does fall under censorship in my opinion, but again, the questions only mentions criticizing.


Criticizing, complaining, by journalists and, perhaps to a lesser degree, gamers creates a feeling of pressure on people like development teams and more importantly producers who control the paychecks. This apparently creates situations where a producer says to the development team that if they don't include <x>, in this case women player characters, they're going to probably cut off the cash, even if the project does not have room for a player character woman. If the development team doesn't have the stones to say that it can't be done, the product is made less than it could be because of misplaced resources. Gamers and journalists then complain about that, and the development team has a more difficult time with the next project.

That is my understanding, at least.


I understand now, but what can you do? You can't discard a tool like public pressure. In the end, it's just someone's opinion along with someone else's opinion. I think we can agree on a number of things.
Posted 6/23/16

PeripheralVisionary wrote:

Criticizing is no more censorship than him criticizing them. There's nothing wrong with asking, but demanding is a whole different beast, and assuming everyone who wants a female character are demanding it is to demonize the entire front. Since when is complaining censorship?


You are going to give me aneurysm.
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Posted 6/23/16 , edited 6/23/16

KarenAraragi wrote:


PeripheralVisionary wrote:

Criticizing is no more censorship than him criticizing them. There's nothing wrong with asking, but demanding is a whole different beast, and assuming everyone who wants a female character are demanding it is to demonize the entire front. Since when is complaining censorship?


You are going to give me aneurysm.


I'm not entirely disagreeing, hence my demanding comment. Gotornck is right though, merely criticizng can lead to undue pubic pressure, but in the end, its the developers and creators who have control.

I don't see why we are so sensitive to criticism. I'm learning to control my anger though.
Posted 6/23/16

PeripheralVisionary wrote:


KarenAraragi wrote:


PeripheralVisionary wrote:

Criticizing is no more censorship than him criticizing them. There's nothing wrong with asking, but demanding is a whole different beast, and assuming everyone who wants a female character are demanding it is to demonize the entire front. Since when is complaining censorship?


You are going to give me aneurysm.


I'm not entirely disagreeing, hence my demanding comment. Gotornck is right though, merely criticizng can lead to undue pubic pressure, but in the end, its the developers and creators who have control.


Is their fucking reasoning that pisses me off. When they try to force Nintendo to make Link a girl.
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Posted 6/23/16 , edited 6/23/16
I see his point if you consider larger context than just the one three-line post (which is something you realyl should do). Because yes, a lot of journalists and 'gamers' (Not really gamers per se,for the most part) do actually demand genuine censorship, related to "gender and sexism issues' in games.
Posted 6/23/16

potentsativa wrote:

When listing video game names did that guy just call The Legend of Zelda, Link :'(


Link is a guy. Zelda is the princess.
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