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I've been having this debate with my friends for the last little bit now, talking about the Wii U's failure and such and at what point do people consider buying a system and why at that point?


For me for instance I feel the system has to have at least 10 games I am interested in before I consider it a good money investment. This came about after I got my 3DS for Pokemon X and only put maybe 20 hours total in, I never even finished the game just got warped up in the hype and couldn't get into the story. And why 10 games Minimum? Because I feel at that point if I play through all 10 games to completion I will have put in a good few months worth of having played around with the system.

One of my friends feels that you need to be able to spend at least twice as much money on games for the system then what you bought the system at, so he would be looking at 20+ games at least on a system.



What about the rest of you, what are some requirements for why you would buy one system over another and what makes you interested in said systems to start with?
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When it surpasses the old console.

Sony and Nintendo usually do a good job of this.

Microsoft.... well microsoft took their sweet time to make the xb1 a worthwhile purchase.
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Well in the case of Nintendo I always keep an eye on their home consoles, it's the area where they try to innovate the most. The Wii U was never a bad console, it's quite good, but the marketing killed it. I've been planning to buy a Wii U when the price is lowered so I can play Bayonetta 2 and Mario Maker. The reason why I got a PS4 instead of the Wii U is the amount of games. The Wii U survives only with first party games, and some of them aren't that good or don't interest me at all like Captain Toad, while the PS4 obviously will have most of the games that everybody will play on Xbox or PC as well, with some awesome exclusives like Bloodborne and the Uncharted series. It all comes down as to what games are on the system.

I don't care at all about Xbox or PC Master Race fanboys, I play with Nintendo and Sony because they're the ones who introduced me to videogames, so I stay loyal to their brands. I know I would feel the same way if I had grown up with an Xbox or a PC.
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Well in the case of Nintendo I always keep an eye on their home consoles, it's the area where they try to innovate the most. The Wii U was never a bad console, it's quite good, but the marketing killed it. I've been planning to buy a Wii U when the price is lowered so I can play Bayonetta 2 and Mario Maker. The reason why I got a PS4 instead of the Wii U is the amount of games. The Wii U survives only with first party games, and some of them aren't that good or don't interest me at all like Captain Toad, while the PS4 obviously will have most of the games that everybody will play on Xbox or PC as well, with some awesome exclusives like Bloodborne and the Uncharted series. It all comes down as to what games are on the system.

I don't care at all about Xbox or PC Master Race fanboys, I play with Nintendo and Sony because they're the ones who introduced me to videogames, so I stay loyal to their brands. I know I would feel the same way if I had grown up with an Xbox or a PC.

I grew up with ps2 and xbox; went to 360; loved it, but was bored by selection; and then was disappointed at xbox one.
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JosephJoestar01 wrote:

Well in the case of Nintendo I always keep an eye on their home consoles, it's the area where they try to innovate the most. The Wii U was never a bad console, it's quite good, but the marketing killed it. I've been planning to buy a Wii U when the price is lowered so I can play Bayonetta 2 and Mario Maker. The reason why I got a PS4 instead of the Wii U is the amount of games. The Wii U survives only with first party games, and some of them aren't that good or don't interest me at all like Captain Toad, while the PS4 obviously will have most of the games that everybody will play on Xbox or PC as well, with some awesome exclusives like Bloodborne and the Uncharted series. It all comes down as to what games are on the system.

I don't care at all about Xbox or PC Master Race fanboys, I play with Nintendo and Sony because they're the ones who introduced me to videogames, so I stay loyal to their brands. I know I would feel the same way if I had grown up with an Xbox or a PC.

I grew up with ps2 and xbox; went to 360; loved it, but was bored by selection; and then was disappointed at xbox one.


I'll admit that the Xbox One wasn't all that great. The new Xbox One S should have been the original product instead of what we got. But I love the idea of playing your Xbox games on PC, I think that's a step in the right direction. But it's not like I don't play anything on PC, I'm always looking for traditional RPG's on Steam. Here I'm just hoping the NX is able to save Nintendo from doom.
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JosephJoestar01 wrote:

Well in the case of Nintendo I always keep an eye on their home consoles, it's the area where they try to innovate the most. The Wii U was never a bad console, it's quite good, but the marketing killed it. I've been planning to buy a Wii U when the price is lowered so I can play Bayonetta 2 and Mario Maker. The reason why I got a PS4 instead of the Wii U is the amount of games. The Wii U survives only with first party games, and some of them aren't that good or don't interest me at all like Captain Toad, while the PS4 obviously will have most of the games that everybody will play on Xbox or PC as well, with some awesome exclusives like Bloodborne and the Uncharted series. It all comes down as to what games are on the system.

I don't care at all about Xbox or PC Master Race fanboys, I play with Nintendo and Sony because they're the ones who introduced me to videogames, so I stay loyal to their brands. I know I would feel the same way if I had grown up with an Xbox or a PC.


For me that has been the biggest issue with this generation of console systems. There isn't enough exclusives that look interesting. I'm one of the few people who have yet to get a PS4, Xbox One, or Wii U. The newest system I have is either my 3DS I got when Pokemon X came out, or my Vita.

Like, if I am to get any of the current Gen consoles it is going to end up being the PS4 or the Wii U. Maybe both if I ever get the money. I grew up playing Nintendo and Playstation as well myself but that isn't the reason why I would want to get a system from those companies. It is coming down to what games are exclusive on them if it interests me. Like, it has only been recently with the release of Ultradimension Neptunia V-II for the PS4 that has made me even contemplate buying it because there haven't been enough games that interest me. (Not interested in Bloodborne or Uncharted.). Aside from that one game only really Disgaea 5, Kingdom Hearts 3 and I think there was maybe 2 other games are interesting me on the PS4 right now. And with a lot of JRPG companies bringing games over to Steam lately as well as PS4 it is making it look less and less appealing to me. If the PS4 had backwards compatibility with the PS3s library of games though I would buy it in a heartbeat as I never had a PS3 and there are still a good number of exclusives on it.

As for the Wii U, it is the only way I will be able to play Nintendo titles and quite a number look interesting enough to try out. Especially with the announcement of Zelda recently.



At the point I am at my mindset has been, "If all the games I want are also available on either my computer or a handheld system I have, why should I go out and buy the console when it is cheaper to just do it this way". But companies have realized that they can make more money by putting their games on every system, which is leading to there being less and less of a reason to really buy a console system.

Edit: Just to add as well, I do not have a HD TV, or a Wide Screen TV. The TV sitting in my living room right now is one of those big square TVs with the Red, Yellow and White plugs. So that would be another expense on top of the new console as my understanding of most games now a days are made with one of those wide screen TVs in mind. Especially if the trend continued from the end of the Xbox 360s life cycle. I remember getting Assassin Creed 3 and Darksiders 2 on the 360 and I could barely play them because the text was so tiny I had to sit practically right up against my TV to see it.
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Discounting Disgaea and Kingdom Hearts, I see that the games you're interested in are for a very specific target audience, especially Neptunia. I honestly never cared for Neptunia at all. Bloodborne and Uncharted are amazing and I really recommend to check them out, but they're not the only exclusives (I'm very hyped for the new Spider-Man exclusive as well). But you can find very cheap PS3 models now, and there are a lot of collections that include many games on one disc. There is a Neptunia collection in PS3 that has 3 of the games, you can check that out. But it's your decision, after all if you're really interested in Neptunia then the PS3 is an excellent choice because it has a lot of great JRPG's that never came out on PC or Xbox. I suggest waiting to see what the consoles will have available in the future, then you can decide if getting a PC is the better option.
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Discounting Disgaea and Kingdom Hearts, I see that the games you're interested in are for a very specific target audience, especially Neptunia. I honestly never cared for Neptunia at all. Bloodborne and Uncharted are amazing and I really recommend to check them out, but they're not the only exclusives (I'm very hyped for the new Spider-Man exclusive as well). But you can find very cheap PS3 models now, and there are a lot of collections that include many games on one disc. There is a Neptunia collection in PS3 that has 3 of the games, you can check that out. But it's your decision, after all if you're really interested in Neptunia then the PS3 is an excellent choice because it has a lot of great JRPG's that never came out on PC or Xbox. I suggest waiting to see what the consoles will have available in the future, then you can decide if getting a PC is the better option.


Thank you for the tips and stuff for finding a cheap PS3, and to wait a while to see what else comes out.


I will also admit a lot of my tastes in games are meant for a specific audience. I love JRPGs and some smaller indie games. A lot of the bigger AAA titles have not interested me lately, the general focus in gaming lately has been big super dark and serious story lines mixed in with super challenging gameplay, or gameplay which has been simplified. Which generally is not what I look for.

At this point in time the last AAA game I played and kinda enjoyed was Skyrim. Haven't touched many of the other games to come out lately. Far Cry 3 I got bored with after maybe an hour (Though I loved Blood Dragon and Far Cry 2.), Never was interested in Batman, Avoided Dark Souls because of its reputation and the fact you have to find the story, Never played any of the GTA games which have come out over the years and just yeah. Never even greatly enjoyed Undertale, like it was a nice game and all but in no way was it the fantastic game the fans wanted you to think.

If I had to list my fave games in recent years I would say the Hyperdimension Neptunia games (Played Re;Birth 1-3 and the spin off titles, all were fantastic), Mount & Blade:Warband, Samurai Warriors 4 4-2 and empires, The Disgaea series of games and some older titles which are on my list of faves are: Dragon Age Origins, The Secret World, and I think there was one more game I loved but I can not remember it.

For the most part I've been leaning more towards JRPGs and other such games because of their unique flairs and normally not being too serious. I want the games I am playing to make me smile and laugh. ... it just so happens a fair number of the games also have a decent amount of fan service and sexual humor.


Same as my taste in Anime, I want shows which can make me smile and laugh. So I am rarely watching the more dark and serious ones everyone else is obsessed over.
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For me I like a system that has exclusives that look interesting to play and that the system also has strong 3rd party support. I'm glad to have a PS4, PC and a Wii U even though the Wii U has close to no 3rd party support but the systems right now that appeal to me more right now are my PS4 and PC since the PS4 is finally getting some more exclusives and also that all the Xbox One exclusives are going to be on PC now. I also love my 3DS so much that I had to sacrifice my Vita for more important things and I didn't play it as much as I thought I would
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For me I like a system that has exclusives that look interesting to play and that the system also has strong 3rd party support. I'm glad to have a PS4, PC and a Wii U even though the Wii U has close to no 3rd party support but the systems right now that appeal to me more right now are my PS4 and PC since the PS4 is finally getting some more exclusives and also that all the Xbox One exclusives are going to be on PC now. I also love my 3DS so much that I had to sacrifice my Vita for more important things and I didn't play it as much as I thought I would


With the 3DS and Vita the opposite happened with me. I got my 3DS almost 3 years ago now back when Pokemon X came out. I got a few titles for it. My Vita I got about a year ago. The 3DS I actually never liked most of the games I had picked up for it, aside from the design being too big for me to carry around in my pocket the games just never clicked. The game I got it for, Pokemon X I couldn't get into the plot of it and eventually I stopped playing it all together after the 4th Gym Badge because I could not take the main villains seriously like I could in past games. I also had Kingdom Hearts 3D dream Drop Distance, which was a kinda Meh kingdom hearts game that I put down. I also had Monster Hunter on the 3DS as well, first time I ever played it, I enjoyed it till I finished making the base camp at which point the first mission I spent 3 hours trying to find some stupid plant before finally giving up. Never touched the 3DS until recently when I got Fire Emblem Fates, but I ended up not enjoying it as much as I thought I was going to, the first few missions failed to pull me in like past Fire emblem titles (Older as in before the 3DS titles) did.

With my vita I ahve had it for less then a year and have finished or almost finished around 20 games so far and have probably put close to 1K hours into the system if not more.
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ah0tp0tat0 wrote:

For me I like a system that has exclusives that look interesting to play and that the system also has strong 3rd party support. I'm glad to have a PS4, PC and a Wii U even though the Wii U has close to no 3rd party support but the systems right now that appeal to me more right now are my PS4 and PC since the PS4 is finally getting some more exclusives and also that all the Xbox One exclusives are going to be on PC now. I also love my 3DS so much that I had to sacrifice my Vita for more important things and I didn't play it as much as I thought I would


With the 3DS and Vita the opposite happened with me. I got my 3DS almost 3 years ago now back when Pokemon X came out. I got a few titles for it. My Vita I got about a year ago. The 3DS I actually never liked most of the games I had picked up for it, aside from the design being too big for me to carry around in my pocket the games just never clicked. The game I got it for, Pokemon X I couldn't get into the plot of it and eventually I stopped playing it all together after the 4th Gym Badge because I could not take the main villains seriously like I could in past games. I also had Kingdom Hearts 3D dream Drop Distance, which was a kinda Meh kingdom hearts game that I put down. I also had Monster Hunter on the 3DS as well, first time I ever played it, I enjoyed it till I finished making the base camp at which point the first mission I spent 3 hours trying to find some stupid plant before finally giving up. Never touched the 3DS until recently when I got Fire Emblem Fates, but I ended up not enjoying it as much as I thought I was going to, the first few missions failed to pull me in like past Fire emblem titles (Older as in before the 3DS titles) did.

With my vita I ahve had it for less then a year and have finished or almost finished around 20 games so far and have probably put close to 1K hours into the system if not more.


I think the Vita has a great game selection it's just I think the 3DS has a better lineup of games and I find that I play it more than the vita I used to have. I might think about getting a Playstation TV to stream my PS4 games and play Vita games again since it is a very cheap alternative to getting another Vita. I like that the Vita has a lot of fighting games to play on the go (Injustice, DOA5, Ultimate MVC3, Mortal Kombat) which is what appealed to me the most however I was really enjoying Persona 4 Golden when I had it so it was a tough loss for me but I'd be glad to possibly give some Vita rpgs a try (even though I suck at rpgs) if I ever do get it.
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SDtheElf wrote:


ah0tp0tat0 wrote:

For me I like a system that has exclusives that look interesting to play and that the system also has strong 3rd party support. I'm glad to have a PS4, PC and a Wii U even though the Wii U has close to no 3rd party support but the systems right now that appeal to me more right now are my PS4 and PC since the PS4 is finally getting some more exclusives and also that all the Xbox One exclusives are going to be on PC now. I also love my 3DS so much that I had to sacrifice my Vita for more important things and I didn't play it as much as I thought I would


With the 3DS and Vita the opposite happened with me. I got my 3DS almost 3 years ago now back when Pokemon X came out. I got a few titles for it. My Vita I got about a year ago. The 3DS I actually never liked most of the games I had picked up for it, aside from the design being too big for me to carry around in my pocket the games just never clicked. The game I got it for, Pokemon X I couldn't get into the plot of it and eventually I stopped playing it all together after the 4th Gym Badge because I could not take the main villains seriously like I could in past games. I also had Kingdom Hearts 3D dream Drop Distance, which was a kinda Meh kingdom hearts game that I put down. I also had Monster Hunter on the 3DS as well, first time I ever played it, I enjoyed it till I finished making the base camp at which point the first mission I spent 3 hours trying to find some stupid plant before finally giving up. Never touched the 3DS until recently when I got Fire Emblem Fates, but I ended up not enjoying it as much as I thought I was going to, the first few missions failed to pull me in like past Fire emblem titles (Older as in before the 3DS titles) did.

With my vita I ahve had it for less then a year and have finished or almost finished around 20 games so far and have probably put close to 1K hours into the system if not more.


I think the Vita has a great game selection it's just I think the 3DS has a better lineup of games and I find that I play it more than the vita I used to have. I might think about getting a Playstation TV to stream my PS4 games and play Vita games again since it is a very cheap alternative to getting another Vita. I like that the Vita has a lot of fighting games to play on the go (Injustice, DOA5, Ultimate MVC3, Mortal Kombat) which is what appealed to me the most however I was really enjoying Persona 4 Golden when I had it so it was a tough loss for me but I'd be glad to possibly give some Vita rpgs a try (even though I suck at rpgs) if I ever do get it.



Yeah, the RPGs are really one of the main features for the Vita in my opinion. Plus playing games like Samruai Warriors on the go is also great too. Funny enough most of the titles I have on the Vita are RPGs or SRPGs, also some older games from the PSP era and a few from the PS1 era too. If only I could have gotten Spyro and Crash Bandicoot on my Vita it would have been perfect. (Damn licensing agreements.). The Hyperdimension Neptunia, Disgaea, Final Fantasy, Samurai Warriors, Dynasty Warriors, Corpse Party, Atelier, Castlevannia, The Sly Cooper games, Conception 2, Persona 3, Persona 4, Breath of Fire, Deception 4: The Nightmare Princess, Operation Abyss, Demon Gaze, and Phantom Brave are the main game series I been playing on the Vita.


What are some good games on the 3DS that you are liking? I noticed a few which caught my eye last time I looked but not many that made me think "I want this now!" Senran Kagura, Rune Factory, Bravely Default, Ace Attorney and I think there is 2 more games I am forgetting about which caught my eye last time I looked around the E-Shop.
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Right now I'm playing through Project X Zone 2 on my 3DS which is a great fun easy crossover RPG with a lot of awesome characters that are in it from Namco, Sega, Capcom and even Nintendo. My 3DS games I like are Mario Kart 7, Super Smash Bros, DragonBall Z Extreme Butoden, Metal Gear Solid 3D, Super Street Fighter 4, Super Mario 3D land, and Resident Evil Revelations. I have more I could list but those are from the top of my head.
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There needs to be some games that really draw my atention.

Even if there are only two or three now, as long as I know that three more will be released within a year I'll try to get the console if I can aford it.
Because of this I'm thinking of buying a ps4 since starocean is being relesad in a week or two and it already has darksouls3 and some other interesting titles.

Another point for when to get a new game system is when it becomes really hard to find games for the systems/system you have.
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I dont. But i every so often will upgrade my PC when i cannot play the latest games on ultra settings and a game that i've been looking forward to and excited up is about to come out.

Back in the day i would buy new consoles very shortly after they were released because i used to play games on consoles alot and i had the money to just buy one whenever they came out back then.
I would buy Sega and Nintendo or Xbox and Playstation for a time there for the exclusive releases.

I have not bought a console since Xbox 360 but i so still want to get a PS3 one day for all the JRPG's that came out on there but i just play PC now.
When i upgrade my PC i try and do a decent upgrade so i wont have to upgrade it again for like 2-5 years.


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