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Britain doesn't even need the EU. We have the Commonwealth.





You had the Commonwealth, I doubt many of the member nations are going to be pleased at the bullshit that renegotiating trade deals is. But hey that is what Britain does best, not giving a fuck about anyone but itself.
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You had the Commonwealth, I doubt many of the member nations are going to be pleased at the bullshit that renegotiating trade deals is.


"Back of the queue" I believe is how Obama put it. This won't be pretty.
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S&P 500 futures drop -100 points or -5% post Brexit and go "limit down".



Woof.

Yeah.. All I'm going to say is thank god I'm a long way from considering retiring. I don't even want to think about my investments tomorrow.
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We're all fucked!
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"Back of the queue" I believe is how Obama put it. This won't be pretty.


Meh they will have earned it, they were warned repeatedly and quite explicitly no one would be in any rush to renegotiate trade deals with them if the leave side won. I for one will laugh heartily.
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"Back of the queue" I believe is how Obama put it. This won't be pretty.

Obama openly campaign in Britain to support the remain campaign. This backfired spectacularly as British voters perceived this as a US President messing in the UK's domestic affairs. So, in an ironic way this victory for the leave campaign is in part Obama's doing whether he likes it or not. Now he has to come to the table and negotiate new trading deals with the UK, that is unless he's really foolish enough to alienate of the USA's most important allies.
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LOL Everyone is blaming white people.


When in doubt, blame the white man.
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runec wrote:

"Back of the queue" I believe is how Obama put it. This won't be pretty.

Obama openly campaign in Britain to support the remain campaign. This backfired spectacularly as British voters perceived this as a US President messing in the UK's domestic affairs. So, in an ironic way this victory for the leave campaign is in part Obama's doing whether he likes it or not. Now he has to come to the table and negotiate new trading deals with the UK, that is unless he's really foolish enough to alienate of the USA's most important allies.


Mate the US can live without British trade, it might hurt a little but they will live. Britain meanwhile has basically alienated every single trading partner they have, a nation's economy does not handle that well just ask Greece and Venezuela.
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Obama openly campaign in Britain to support the remain campaign. This backfired spectacularly as British voters perceived this as a US President messing in the UK's domestic affairs. So, in an ironic way this victory for the leave campaign is in part Obama's doing whether he likes it or not. Now he has to come to the table and negotiate new trading deals with the UK, that is unless he's really foolish enough to alienate of the USA's most important allies.


Ah, right, you still have that psychic hive mind link with all of Britain.

The US doesn't have to do anything. Its the UK that needs to go crawling around trying to negotiate new trade deals with former partners who have to deal with the economic fallout of their behaviour. No ones going to be thrilled. The money's already moving into Asian markets instead.
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The US doesn't have to do anything. Its the UK that needs to go crawling around trying to negotiate new trade deals with former partners who have to deal with the economic fallout of their behaviour. No ones going to be thrilled. The money's already moving into Asian markets instead.

The US most certainly need to act and establish new trade agreements with Britain if it wants to maintain European security. Because now more then ever the EU is a failed project, unable to act as a counterbalance to a resurgent Russia under Vladimir Putin. This means that the US's best bet for maintain the balance of power is by backing the UK as it leaves the EU. Now is the time for Obama to concede that he made a mistake by supporting the remain campaign, as he acts for the sake of US foreign policy by supporting the UK in this new era.
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The pound sterling is crashing bad. Its at a 30 year low and falling.


In the words of Arthur Dawes Sr.:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6DGs3qjRwQ
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runec wrote:

The US doesn't have to do anything. Its the UK that needs to go crawling around trying to negotiate new trade deals with former partners who have to deal with the economic fallout of their behaviour. No ones going to be thrilled. The money's already moving into Asian markets instead.

The US most certainly need to act and establish new trade agreements with Britain if it wants to maintain European security. Because now more then ever the EU is a failed project, unable to act as a counterbalance to a resurgent Russia under Vladimir Putin. This means that the US's best for maintain the balance of power is by backing an UK as it leaves the EU. Now is the time for Obama to concede that he made a mistake by supporting the remain campaign, as he acts for the sake of US foreign policy by supporting the UK now.


My god you actually believe that trite nonsense. Mate the combined forces of the EU staggeringly outnumber the UK's forces and when backed up by American firepower it makes whatever the UK can muster merely academic. And honestly the UK is one to talk the last major war you lot fought on home soil was WWII and took a massive influx of foreign supplies to keep you in the fight, not to mention a few foreign soldiers and pilots.
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My god you actually believe that trite nonsense. Mate the combined forces of the EU staggeringly outnumber the UK's forces and when backed up by American firepower it makes whatever the UK can muster merely academic. And honestly the UK is one to talk the last major war you lot fought on home soil was WWII and took a massive influx of foreign supplies to keep you in the fight, not to mention a few foreign soldiers and pilots.

For all the US's vaunted military power the truth is that the American public has little stomach for a protracted conflict in continental Europe, especially after the recent fiascos in Afghanistan and Iraq. Cynical as it sounds, it's much more convenient for US Presidents to get the soldiers of foreign powers to fight in the US's stead, as no votes are lost when a non-American dies. This means that unless Obama (and his successors) want to risk further deeply unpopular conflicts the US will need to keep the UK as an ally. I expect those trade agreements will be signed before too long.
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Ranwolf wrote:

My god you actually believe that trite nonsense. Mate the combined forces of the EU staggeringly outnumber the UK's forces and when backed up by American firepower it makes whatever the UK can muster merely academic. And honestly the UK is one to talk the last major war you lot fought on home soil was WWII and took a massive influx of foreign supplies to keep you in the fight, not to mention a few foreign soldiers and pilots.

For all the US's vaunted military power the truth is that the American public has little stomach for a protracted conflict in continental Europe, especially after the recent fiascos in Afghanistan and Iraq. Cynical as it sounds, it's much more convenient for US Presidents to get the soldiers of foreign powers to fight in the US's stead, as no votes are lost when a non-American dies. This means that unless Obama (and his successors) want to risk further deeply unpopular conflicts the US will need to keep the UK as an ally. I expect those trade agreements will be signed before too long.


Mate it is a very simple numbers game, the EU has five times the amount of Regular forces troops then the UK, and nearly ten times the Primary Reserve troops then the UK. If I were the Americans I'd gladly support the EU over the UK by that sheer fact alone. Might as well support the foreign power that has most bodies in uniform if a land war in Europe broke out against the Russians. Not to mention the EU already has forces in place along the Russian border. The EU is more prepared for Russia then the UK will ever be.

Honestly mate the world is tired of the UK insisting it get it's own way. That is all this vote is, you Brits pretending you still rule the world, news flash your time has come and gone.
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