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Posted 6/28/16

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Are you red-headed half brother of PerpheralVisionary (PV)? :p


What?



Its a simple question, Yes or No?


Eh No?
Posted 6/28/16
i think he is this guys brother Ryulightorb
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Posted 6/28/16

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i think he is this guys brother Ryulightorb


What? I dont understand all this brother love thingy you talk about.
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Jophar_Vorin wrote:


L7D wrote:

i think he is this guys brother Ryulightorb


What? I dont understand all this brother love thingy you talk about.


JOPHY.
I worry about you. Ignore the meanies. Please go speak to someone proper about this, and continue to be my harem spokesperson!

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DazaiShinju wrote:


Jophar_Vorin wrote:


L7D wrote:

i think he is this guys brother Ryulightorb


What? I dont understand all this brother love thingy you talk about.


JOPHY.
I worry about you. Ignore the meanies. Please go speak to someone proper about this, and continue to be my harem spokesperson!



But my doctor wont give me the pills i need. He says talking helps, but it really doesnt.
The pills are the reason i have ben functional. Atleast he lets me keep my Sertraline, but still i need the others...

And i cant switch doctors... The system wont allow me.
So "go see a pro" wont help me as i am with a pro. But he says that i will grow out of it..
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Posted 6/28/16
And here I was thinking my obsessive compulsion to exercise was bad.
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Posted 6/28/16

Jophar_Vorin wrote:


DazaiShinju wrote:


Jophar_Vorin wrote:


L7D wrote:

i think he is this guys brother Ryulightorb


What? I dont understand all this brother love thingy you talk about.


JOPHY.
I worry about you. Ignore the meanies. Please go speak to someone proper about this, and continue to be my harem spokesperson!



But my doctor wont give me the pills i need. He says talking helps, but it really doesnt.
The pills are the reason i have ben functional. Atleast he lets me keep my Sertraline, but still i need the others...

And i cant switch doctors... The system wont allow me.
So "go see a pro" wont help me as i am with a pro. But he says that i will grow out of it..
fHaK


CBT?
I dunno Jophy. I have issues with depression and anxiety but for me pills are a no-go so we're opposites here. I can't imagine my doctor/therapist forcing me to take them. I guess psychosis is significantly different to my everyday drama but... shouldn't they listen to you? I feel like that's important.

You should certainly be able to change therapist if you're unhappy with the one you have...? I'm so confused by this.
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Posted 6/28/16

DazaiShinju wrote:


Jophar_Vorin wrote:


DazaiShinju wrote:


Jophar_Vorin wrote:


L7D wrote:

i think he is this guys brother Ryulightorb


What? I dont understand all this brother love thingy you talk about.


JOPHY.
I worry about you. Ignore the meanies. Please go speak to someone proper about this, and continue to be my harem spokesperson!



But my doctor wont give me the pills i need. He says talking helps, but it really doesnt.
The pills are the reason i have ben functional. Atleast he lets me keep my Sertraline, but still i need the others...

And i cant switch doctors... The system wont allow me.
So "go see a pro" wont help me as i am with a pro. But he says that i will grow out of it..
fHaK


CBT?
I dunno Jophy. I have issues with depression and anxiety but for me pills are a no-go so we're opposites here. I can't imagine my doctor/therapist forcing me to take them. I guess psychosis is significantly different to my everyday drama but... shouldn't they listen to you? I feel like that's important.

You should certainly be able to change therapist if you're unhappy with the one you have...? I'm so confused by this.


CBT is make-believe. The pills gave back my ability to feel happy, and the other pills also help me sleep.. I cant because the system is only CBT. They want to phase out pills. But how come the pills have not helped you :P?
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Posted 6/28/16

Jophar_Vorin wrote:


DazaiShinju wrote:


Jophar_Vorin wrote:


DazaiShinju wrote:


Jophar_Vorin wrote:


L7D wrote:

i think he is this guys brother Ryulightorb


What? I dont understand all this brother love thingy you talk about.


JOPHY.
I worry about you. Ignore the meanies. Please go speak to someone proper about this, and continue to be my harem spokesperson!



But my doctor wont give me the pills i need. He says talking helps, but it really doesnt.
The pills are the reason i have ben functional. Atleast he lets me keep my Sertraline, but still i need the others...

And i cant switch doctors... The system wont allow me.
So "go see a pro" wont help me as i am with a pro. But he says that i will grow out of it..
fHaK


CBT?
I dunno Jophy. I have issues with depression and anxiety but for me pills are a no-go so we're opposites here. I can't imagine my doctor/therapist forcing me to take them. I guess psychosis is significantly different to my everyday drama but... shouldn't they listen to you? I feel like that's important.

You should certainly be able to change therapist if you're unhappy with the one you have...? I'm so confused by this.


CBT is make-believe. The pills gave back my ability to feel happy, and the other pills also help me sleep.. I cant because the system is only CBT. They want to phase out pills. But how come the pills have not helped you :P?


I'm trying CBT right now. I refuse to take pills. I don't feel like they'll solve my problem, which is me.
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Jesus mate if a soldier like me who was diagnosed with PTSD can live a normal life without pills you can to. Only the weak think meds make their life better.
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Jesus mate if a soldier like me who was diagnosed with PTSD can live a normal life without pills you can to. Only the weak think meds make their life better.

I'm pretty stringently against using medication unless it's absolutely necessary myself. I just wanted to note that some people cannot lead a happy life without medication. There are people neurologically wired wrong (not psychologically troubled). I'm not saying all neurological conditions need medication either as it depends on severity. I'm not saying all psychological conditions need not have medication for temporary support as well.

Sometimes the consequences of not taking medication exceeds the consequences of doing so. People should strive to go without, but in the cases it's required...

It depends. It really does. I'd always suggest trying everything else first before resorting to medication. Medication doesn't fix problems, but it does help some live with them. They're not weak for doing so.

People are only mentally weak when they have not adequately attempted their better options.

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PrinceJudar wrote:


Ranwolf wrote:

Jesus mate if a soldier like me who was diagnosed with PTSD can live a normal life without pills you can to. Only the weak think meds make their life better.

I'm pretty stringently against using medication unless it's absolutely necessary myself. I just wanted to note that some people cannot lead a happy life without medication. There are people neurologically wired wrong (not psychologically troubled). I'm not saying all neurological conditions need medication either as it depends on severity. I'm not saying all psychological conditions need not have medication for temporary support as well.

Sometimes the consequences of not taking medication exceeds the consequences of doing so. People should strive to go without, but in the cases it's required...

It depends. It really does. I'd always suggest trying everything else first before resorting to medication. Medication doesn't fix problems, but it does help some live with them. They're not weak for doing so.

People are only mentally weak when they have not adequately attempted their better options.



All fair enough points but to me it seems the OP is refusing to even entertain the idea of a better option. He wants the short and easy road and I am expected to respect that. No I am sorry if that makes me a horrible person but I think it rather weak of him.
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All fair enough points but to me it seems the OP is refusing to even entertain the idea of a better option. He wants the short and easy road and I am expected to respect that. No I am sorry if that makes me a horrible person but I think it rather weak of him.


Touche. I don't disagree he's jumping to medication rather quickly. I'd try other things first. If talking doesn't help, what about exercise? Sleeping more?

Drugs should be near the bottom and only in such case it cannot be coped with otherwise.



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Touche. I don't disagree he's jumping to medication rather quickly. I'd try other things first. If talking doesn't help, what about exercise? Sleeping more?

Drugs should be near the bottom and only in such case it cannot be coped with otherwise.





And to boot the OP has openly admitted his doctor does not think he needs the meds. In a society where a doctor will write a prescription for a cough that should tell you a lot. Obviously the problem is no near as bad as the OP is painting it to be by the very admission of his own words.
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