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Post Reply Jesse Williams Speech and Justin Timberlake's Response: What is Cultural Appropriation?
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Posted 6/27/16 , edited 6/27/16



^Rest of Williams Speech.


We’ve been floating this country on credit for centuries, and we’re done watching and waiting while this invention called whiteness uses and abuses us, burying black people out of sight and out of mind, while extracting our culture, our dollars, our entertainment like oil, black gold. Ghettoising and demeaning our creations then stealing them, gentrifying our genius and then trying us on like costumes before discarding our bodies like rinds of strange fruit. The thing is, just because we’re magic, doesn’t mean we’re not real.”


Timberlake responded, and some felt his response of being inspired by it was a bit of hypocrisy, seeing as he apparently used things inspired by black culture in his music.


So TL;DR Williams lambastes the entertainment industry for using elements from Black culture without due respect towards said culture, painting a picture of a field that pushes up success stories with things originated from black culture while denying said successes to black men and women all the same.

Justin Timberlake supports him in tweet, but faces backlash due to his own "cultural appropriation".


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Red=William's segment about cultural appropriation.

While I like to think said ideas of cultural appropriation are not fully unjustified, it makes me uneasy to say "You can't use it unless you're black or Japanese."

What do you think Crunchy?

Posted 6/27/16
I think it's idiots talking about non-problems for the sake of holding/creating their image as some kind of activist that fights for something.
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At this point, outcry of "cultural appropriation" is largely an expression of possessiveness, of people jealously guarding various aspects of their culture, whether or not said aspects are actually unique any one culture. The antithesis of multiculturalism. It's shifted from reasonable complaints to extremism. It is used as a weapon in cultural feuds.
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Among white singers, Sinead O'Connor could make being a narcissistic paranoid attention-seeking singer-activist-at-large into her own problem, and hit the skids.

In black-rap culture, being a pretentious paranoid free-complaining nutcase who snubs awards to make a "war" out of anything he made up that morning is What You Do. Kanye West just made it look cool.
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Posted 6/27/16
Justin Timberlake is still relevant?

He ruined Janet Jackson's career. He should apologize for that alone.
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Posted 6/27/16
Flowery words from Williams, but they don't make much sense. When aspects of a culture become popular, of course they're going to be used and imitated. Grilling Timberlake over it is just dumb.
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Fucking Social Justice Warriors trying to subvert and divide us. We are AMERICANS! Black culture IS AMERICAN CULTURE!

These SJW's are trying to bring back racism and separation of colors/races/cultures instead of letting us naturally share and borrow from one another.
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Rujikin wrote:

Fucking Social Justice Warriors trying to subvert and divide us. We are AMERICANS! Black culture IS AMERICAN CULTURE!

These SJW's are trying to bring back racism and separation of colors/races/cultures instead of letting us naturally share and borrow from one another.


I think you make the most sense, even though I disagree with you on a variety of issues.
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PeripheralVisionary wrote:


Rujikin wrote:

Fucking Social Justice Warriors trying to subvert and divide us. We are AMERICANS! Black culture IS AMERICAN CULTURE!

These SJW's are trying to bring back racism and separation of colors/races/cultures instead of letting us naturally share and borrow from one another.


I think you make the most sense, even though I disagree with you on a variety of issues.


If you ever come to the USA for a while and debate politics you will learn that situation happens all the time XD

Rap is what you get when you encourage racism and cultural separation.

This is what you get when various different people get together: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kT3kCVFFLNg

The birth of rock and roll plus all the derivatives from it Chuck berry's guitar playing was the birth of modern guitar playing.
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Rujikin wrote:


PeripheralVisionary wrote:


Rujikin wrote:

Fucking Social Justice Warriors trying to subvert and divide us. We are AMERICANS! Black culture IS AMERICAN CULTURE!

These SJW's are trying to bring back racism and separation of colors/races/cultures instead of letting us naturally share and borrow from one another.


I think you make the most sense, even though I disagree with you on a variety of issues.


If you ever come to the USA for a while and debate politics you will learn that situation happens all the time XD

Rap is what you get when you encourage racism and cultural separation.

This is what you get when various different people get together: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kT3kCVFFLNg

The birth of rock and roll plus all the derivatives from it Chuck berry's guitar playing was the birth of modern guitar playing.


I live in the US! I just....don't get out. Though it did spring to mind that a variety of groups like Earth, Wind and Fire are influential because people took notes.
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Posted 6/27/16
"Cultural appropriations" seems like how you would say when you rob Peter to pay Paul, and then claim that you've cut spending by doing so.
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After reading some of these answers, I think I will just stick to watching anime on here and not socialize. A lot of these answers disappointed me. If people cant see the problem then there is nothing I can say to truly open your eyes.
Posted 6/27/16
It's a complex economical issue that a few single-tracked minds have turned into a matter of racism. You live in America, a country so hellbent on laissez faire, if it weren't for a few set of regulations that took decades, centuries, even wars to incorporate, you'd still be in the business of human trafficking.

Art is supposed to be inspirational, and what people like Jesse Williams is basically implying, is that they didn't actually want their art to be inspirational to begin with... or, at least not inspirational to white people. So, to me, Jesse Williams sounds like a racist.
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First I would like to say I agreed with every single word of Jesse Williams speech. My favorite part of his speech was when he stated that other people want to point out the flaws in "our" life style or condition ,but don't hold our best interest in their hearts. So if you don't hold the best interest of Black people in your minds and hearts ,then shut up and don't point out our flaws.
I also want to say that this is a anime/manga/otaku etc:) website why do we have to add in all of this real world issues and problems? People come to this site to have fun and gock over anime ,please don't put people against each other with topics like these.
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Posted 6/27/16 , edited 6/27/16

PeripheralVisionary wrote:


Rujikin wrote:


PeripheralVisionary wrote:


Rujikin wrote:

Fucking Social Justice Warriors trying to subvert and divide us. We are AMERICANS! Black culture IS AMERICAN CULTURE!

These SJW's are trying to bring back racism and separation of colors/races/cultures instead of letting us naturally share and borrow from one another.


I think you make the most sense, even though I disagree with you on a variety of issues.


If you ever come to the USA for a while and debate politics you will learn that situation happens all the time XD

Rap is what you get when you encourage racism and cultural separation.

This is what you get when various different people get together: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kT3kCVFFLNg

The birth of rock and roll plus all the derivatives from it Chuck berry's guitar playing was the birth of modern guitar playing.


I live in the US! I just....don't get out. Though it did spring to mind that a variety of groups like Earth, Wind and Fire are influential because people took notes.


You have gained my respect sir for knowing about Earth, Wind, and Fire and yes you are right they were and still are a influential group much like Marvin Gaye, James Brown, or Parliament-Funkadelic on Black music not just Black music but music in general and I honor you for that.
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