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have a look at what happened in Rotherham and other areas of Europe probably have had similar issues with people who follow that religion and even if those statistics didn't cover places in Europe or North America it still wouldn't be surprising to see similar statistic in those places. i would say that religion is not compatible with people who wish don't want war, racism, sexism etc as it is now even the countries like Indonesia that are considered moderate Muslim countries are pretty bad for example their 2 finger test for their police and military.
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What evidence?? You mean those screenshots??

Have you met any Muslims?? Did they bomb you?

It's not like I'm not defending terrorism, I'm defending people's rights, that they can believe whatever they want. Isn't that what the U.S. is about? People only want freedom if it suits them. And it's not fair for you to judge an entire religion just because some lunatics decide they can do whatever they want in the name of god.





You misunderstand.



That wasn't my opinion.



Those were the opinions of the people in the religion itself.
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people can believe in whatever they want but just don't say it's the right thing to believe in

it's really simple you don't go around saying islam is religion of peace. other than that you are allowed to believe in islam. ISLAM is and will never be religion of peace.




what the hell is a religion of peace then. do you really think there's any religion of peace? all their books say the craziest shit

and what is the right thing to believe in, then? that's a dangerous thing to say, that this is what you should believe in and not that.
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have a look at what happened in Rotherham and other areas of Europe probably have had similar issues with people who follow that religion and even if those statistics didn't cover places in Europe or North America it still wouldn't be surprising to see similar statistic in those places. i would say that religion is not compatible with people who wish don't want war, racism, sexism etc as it is now even the countries like Indonesia that are considered moderate Muslim countries are pretty bad for example their 2 finger test for their police and military.


I really just cannot make it any clearer, and I'm even using the supposedly crushing data to explain it. Turkey has a population of nearly 80 million, 99% of which is estimated to be some variety of Muslim or another. Among them only 12% want Sharia law in place, and even among that minority only 17% are actually calling for the penalty that Sharia assigns for apostasy. We could do this again with Kazakhstan, which has a population of just under 18 million, an estimated 70% of whom are Muslims. The figure for imposing Sharia there is 10%, and among those who favour Sharia being imposed the total calling for the assigned penalty for apostasy is 4%. If we do it for Albania (population about 3 million, estimated to be about 60% Muslim) the figures are 12% for imposing Sharia and 8% of that 12% calling for execution of apostates.
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Only one-fifth of the populace calls for slaughtering people who leave the religion in one country, so clearly they are tolerant and accepting!



Let us disregard all the hundreds of millions who agree with them.
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Rather, it's that Muslims are a complex group of people about whom blanket statements cannot be made and to whom nuanced analysis must be applied. Not all Muslims are like ISIL. A significant proportion in several countries don't even want Sharia law in place. But sure, whatever.
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Actually all the other religions have pretty much stopped killing people in these modern times. There seems to be only one still living in the stone age.


Mhm. It's not militant, radical fundamentalist religion in general that's the problem, no sir.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Army_of_God_(United_States)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hutaree
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phineas_Priesthood
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concerned_Christians




I've never heard of those groups, never seen them on the news blowing people up, beheading people, burning people alive, stoning people, throwing people from rooftops, or shooting girls in the head for simply going to school.

If in fact those groups you mention do exist, since Wikipedia is a WORTHLESS source of information, they may have what, 100, 200 followers? This does not really compare to the 1 billion+ muslims, of which 10%-15% (very low estimate in my opinion) that are radicalized and extremely violent. (about 15 million or so.)

You care comparing apples to oranges, and making excuses for terrorists. Most people in the world know who the problem children are, and they are finally waking up to what needs to be done about them.
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well... i am sorry for the families and friends who lost loved ones

arguing about who is right and wrong and if "religion" is bad/good doesn't remedy the situation and doesn't help the people who are hurting
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Oh goodie I was missing all the ignorant inbred fucks who keep thinking terrorists have anything at all do with Islam. Shit ISIS and all the terrorists as a whole are no more Islamic then I am and I am officially Christian.

Can't you people pretend to be freaking human for one second in your miserable lives and simply mourn those who passed without dragging your bigoted red neck politics into this mess.
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I've never heard of those groups, never seen them on the news blowing people up, beheading people, burning people alive, stoning people, throwing people from rooftops, or shooting girls in the head for simply going to school.

If in fact those groups you mention do exist, since Wikipedia is a WORTHLESS source of information, they may have what, 100, 200 followers? This does not really compare to the 1 billion+ muslims, of which 10%-15% (very low estimate in my opinion) that are radicalized and extremely violent. (about 15 million or so.)

You care comparing apples to oranges, and making excuses for terrorists. Most people in the world know who the problem children are, and they are finally waking up to what needs to be done about them.


Corroborate the groups' existence. Go ahead. Check me.
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ahmadtibi wrote:

people can believe in whatever they want but just don't say it's the right thing to believe in

it's really simple you don't go around saying islam is religion of peace. other than that you are allowed to believe in islam. ISLAM is and will never be religion of peace.




what the hell is a religion of peace then. do you really think there's any religion of peace? all their books say the craziest shit

and what is the right thing to believe in, then? that's a dangerous thing to say, that this is what you should believe in and not that.


? i don't think buddhism or christianity tells you to kill people and even if it did i don't see people doing that ( don't tell me about the KKK that's irrelevant to now) i don't get your last sentence? care to rephrase it? what do you mean by

that's a dangerous thing to say, that this is what you should believe in and not that.

i don't get why you insist on defending islam man? i live in islamic city literally until now i used to live in that city however now i live in 50 precent arab and 50 precent jews. and i can safely say that most arabs don't believe in peace. i'm arab and i lived in arabic city so i have more knowledge than you. back in my city arabs think and probably still think there won't be peace between jews and arabs. don't cover up islam using a cheap perfume. i would choose christianity over islam anyday.
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I've never heard of those groups, never seen them on the news blowing people up, beheading people, burning people alive, stoning people, throwing people from rooftops, or shooting girls in the head for simply going to school.

If in fact those groups you mention do exist, since Wikipedia is a WORTHLESS source of information, they may have what, 100, 200 followers? This does not really compare to the 1 billion+ muslims, of which 10%-15% (very low estimate in my opinion) that are radicalized and extremely violent. (about 15 million or so.)

You care comparing apples to oranges, and making excuses for terrorists. Most people in the world know who the problem children are, and they are finally waking up to what needs to be done about them.


Corroborate the groups' existence. Go ahead. Check me.


Did you not read what I said? If they do exist (every group has it's radical elements.) They are not waging a holy war claiming thousands of innocent lives every month in the name of god.

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Oh goodie I was missing all the ignorant inbred fucks who keep thinking terrorists have anything at all do with Islam. Shit ISIS and all the terrorists as a whole are no more Islamic then I am and I am officially Christian.

Can't you people pretend to be freaking human for one second in your miserable lives and simply mourn those who passed without dragging your bigoted red neck politics into this mess.


Reported for not attacking Islam? Too much truth?
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Ranwolf wrote:

Oh goodie I was missing all the ignorant inbred fucks who keep thinking terrorists have anything at all do with Islam. Shit ISIS and all the terrorists as a whole are no more Islamic then I am and I am officially Christian.

Can't you people pretend to be freaking human for one second in your miserable lives and simply mourn those who passed without dragging your bigoted red neck politics into this mess.


Reported for not attacking Islam? Too much truth?


Some people I guess though I was likely reported by the Islamic hating bigots here.
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Xxanthar wrote:

Did you not read what I said? If they do exist (every group has it's radical elements.) They are not waging a holy war claiming thousands of innocent lives every month in the name of god.


Actually, those are militant groups. They've shot up and bombed places.

There are vast majorities of Muslims who don't want to hurt or dominate anyone. If those people are to be held accountable for the actions of ISIL, al Qaeda, and so on why shouldn't every member of every religious group be held accountable for its most radical elements no matter how much they may disagree? Why is that a fair thing to do for Islam but not for Christianity?

I have condemned militant radical fundamental religion in general, and yet you accuse me of making excuses for terrorists? No. I'm simply demanding that a complicated issue be examined with nuance.

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It's not even like I don't have criticisms of Turkey, for crying out loud. Their current climate for LGBT rights isn't what I'd call alright at all, but at least it is nowhere near the brutality faced in places like Saudi Arabia or territory controlled by ISIL. They're different animals.
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