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What should we do about the low numbers of women in stem?


Put girls on testosterone supplements and oestrogen blockers from the beginning of puperty until death, not leaving out a single day for max effect. Warning, may cause higher suicide rates among those women.
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- Sexism
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexism

Sexism or gender discrimination is prejudice or discrimination based on a person's sex or gender. Sexism can affect any gender, but it is particularly documented as affecting women and girls. It has been linked to stereotypes and gender roles and may include the belief that one sex or gender is intrinsically superior to another. Extreme sexism may foster sexual harassment, rape, and other forms of sexual violence.

- Ageism
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ageism

Ageism (also spelled "agism") is stereotyping and discriminating against individuals or groups on the basis of their age. This may be casual or systematic. The term was coined in 1969 by Robert Neil Butler to describe discrimination against seniors, and patterned on sexism and racism. Butler defined "ageism" as a combination of three connected elements. Among them were prejudicial attitudes towards older people, old age, and the aging process; discriminatory practices against older people; and institutional practices and policies that perpetuate stereotypes about elderly people.

While the term has also been used to describe prejudice and discrimination against adolescents and children, including ignoring their ideas because they are too young, or assuming that they should behave in certain ways because of their age,the term is predominantly used in relation to the treatment of older people. Moreover, it has been pointed out that stigmatization does only occur outside of the cohesively imagined group of the elderly but likewise takes place within the stigmatized group itself.
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Sexism is when someone thinks something is sexism (specifically in America).
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There is sexism as an attitude and sexism as a behavior.

The attitude portion is the root of the problem although behavior is the symptom we need to immediately address since that's active discrimination.

People say that there is no discrimination in regards to gender, race, etc; but it's very real and common even if it might not be to the extreme for most people.

Due to the fact that the human mind, by nature, categorizes and generalizes to process information, we will most likely look at different people differently; including that based on gender. There's nothing wrong with being different or being treated differently to a degree as long as it isn't malicious. If the person is told that it offends you, then they can adjust accordingly if they are considerate.

I wouldn't treat a girl exactly the same way as a guy and vice versa due to certain social structures as well as biological differences. However, I wouldn't treat either gender as being less than the other. I believe that's the key.
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No matter how many times I begged my sister to take interest in math, she refused. She took AP math classes in high school, so she could avoid them them in college. She got a master's degree, but I still can't make her like math.


It's quite uncommon that women take an interest in these subjects. Some try to major in it (especially because of the money and pressuring to do so), but they eventually drop out of it (especially the electrical/computer engineering fields). The only propositions people have made include forcing 'female only spaces', 'feminized offices' or 'female majority grouping'--Victorian, much?

In engineering usually only certain types make it. Engineers being stereotypically a bit socially awkward and nerdy didn't come from just 'anywhere'.

We actually had an intern fired just yesterday because he was incompetent. He wasn't picking up the material nearly fast enough--but was I surprised? No. Absolutely not. He was quite athletic and didn't seem to have much of an interest in tech outside of his job. It's very uncommon for people outside of the personality types associated to this field to be good at this sort of thing.

We're typically more interested in things, not people. Gossip isn't commonplace. Every field has different environments, because certain types of people are more drawn to doing those things.

Women, less than men, pull apart appliances and take things apart 'because why not?'. They don't usually spend time trying to build things 'just for fun'.

For example, personalities one finds in engineering will differ greatly to those one would find in counseling--or in business.


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well i can tell you want sexism is not. its not being sexy. as in video games, anime or what ever. showing sexyness is not in and of itself sexist.


I agree for the most part. Sexiness in and of itself isn't sexist. What is sexist though is one gender being portrayed as sexual more than the other gender. Let's face it, in most video games more girls are portrayed as sexual than guys. Of course there are exceptions to this (especially in Japanese games), but I'm sure you can name more scantily clad video game girls than scantily clad video game guys. Now, the sexualization of the genders is a bit more equal when we get to manga, since the ecchi/hentai genre (which sexualizes women) is countered by the shoujo and BL genres (which sexualizes men). As for anime, it's not quite as equal as manga, but it's starting to get there (due to a recent influx of fujoshi bait shows).

Let me reiterate that I personally see nothing wrong with women being sexualized.... but only as long as men are sexualized in an equal amount. After all, I want to see some video games where I can play as a hot guy wearing nothing but a leather jacket and a speedo and can make out with other guys.



The predominant audience of (non-mobile) Video Games is men, so why should we expect there to be just as many scantily clad men as there are women? Why is it a bad thing that things are made for audiences? I don't see this as sexism, I see it as supply and demand. I don't think "unequal treatment" of fictional characters counts as sexism...
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Sexism is memes.
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Crazy_Monster wrote:

Sexism is when someone thinks something is sexism (specifically in America).


My mother told me a story about how when she was younger, a man was boasting about how he had hired a woman instead of a man and how he was able to pay her less because she was a woman. My mom told me that later this man was upset when his daughter wasn't paid well at his job.
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Sexism is not an issue in my work place. Well, sort of. Someone in the higher ups is gay, but it remains mostly hidden because drama is high. So, I guess it is, but it isn't because it's a higher up, but it is cause they gotta hide it... So yes..?
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To me sexism is raising girls and boys differently: teaching them (often subconsciously) that they have to act or can act certain ways. Stop giving boys more speaking time in class than girls, because you're teaching them that they're opinions are worth more. Stop saying "boys will be boys" when they act disruptive or cruel, because you're teaching them that they're gender is a free pass. Stop only telling girls they're pretty instead of complimenting they're skills or intellect, because you're teaching them that the most important thing about them is how they look. Stop telling boys that not showing you're emotions is strong, because you're teaching them that girls who do are weak.

I'm not trying to change the beliefs of bigots, that's a waste of time, but people are conditioned at a young age to give men more time, more slack and more credit than women. That doesn't necessarily make you sexist, it makes you biased, and you need to actively check your bias to make sure you don't act on it.
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sundin13 wrote:


LadyPsychic wrote:


nemoskull wrote:

well i can tell you want sexism is not. its not being sexy. as in video games, anime or what ever. showing sexyness is not in and of itself sexist.


I agree for the most part. Sexiness in and of itself isn't sexist. What is sexist though is one gender being portrayed as sexual more than the other gender. Let's face it, in most video games more girls are portrayed as sexual than guys. Of course there are exceptions to this (especially in Japanese games), but I'm sure you can name more scantily clad video game girls than scantily clad video game guys. Now, the sexualization of the genders is a bit more equal when we get to manga, since the ecchi/hentai genre (which sexualizes women) is countered by the shoujo and BL genres (which sexualizes men). As for anime, it's not quite as equal as manga, but it's starting to get there (due to a recent influx of fujoshi bait shows).

Let me reiterate that I personally see nothing wrong with women being sexualized.... but only as long as men are sexualized in an equal amount. After all, I want to see some video games where I can play as a hot guy wearing nothing but a leather jacket and a speedo and can make out with other guys.



The predominant audience of (non-mobile) Video Games is men, so why should we expect there to be just as many scantily clad men as there are women? Why is it a bad thing that things are made for audiences? I don't see this as sexism, I see it as supply and demand. I don't think "unequal treatment" of fictional characters counts as sexism...


Well, maybe if there were more games that catered to women (without using the "Barbie/girlie" stereotype) then maybe there would be a larger female audience for games. Besides, I think that there is a larger female gamer base than you realize. After all, I'm a girl and I play videogames!

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Usually the women complaining about sexist topics are really unhappy with their lives. It stems from them and not actually reality (For the most part). I'm sick of women complaining on Facebook about these things when I know first hand how lazy and miserable they are.
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-What is sexism to you?

non-existant, for the most part in Western Society. But you can be sexist towards both men and women.

-Is job discrimination still a major, widespread problem?


Nope.
Quotas are a problem though.

-What should we teach kids about gender (i.e. what it means to be a boy or girl)?


That boys have penises and girls have vaginas? Don't they teach that already?

-What should we do about the low numbers of women in stem?


Let women pick what they want? You know, maybe, women just don't want stem jobs? I know I don't.

Instead of the nicey-nice jobs though,What should we do about the low number of women in, say, the waste collection industry? That's a male-dominated area.
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