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TheDustyForest wrote:

That sounds logical, and you probably understand this better than me, but my reason for believing it may have a negative impact was based on Funimation's business model. Funimation owns the rights to some huge franchises and series (Dragonball, One Piece, Yu Yu Hakusho in particular are the main ones I'm referring to), and produce a huge amount of dubs and (overpriced) physical releases, yet they rarely seem to obtain half the number of streaming titles as Crunchyroll does. I guess this led me to believe that all their money was going towards obtaining dub and physical release licenses, which is why they have less to put towards lineups in general.

A lot can be attributed to Funimation being later to begin streaming, and much later than CR to treat it as a serious business.

I also suspect they still haven't adopted CR's "license every title feasible" approach vs. what was clearly at one time a selective approach for Funimation.




Meroko26 wrote:

Awesome! What kinda bonus features and what not we gonna get? I love my bonus features. Especially when they're japanese behind the scene things, OVAs specials, etc.

And these are subbed AND dubbed DVDs right? Not just dubbed.

Dub only discs are rare, and normally only done because of reverse import fears (and applies only to Blu-ray, due to the shared region), or where the materials provided are an edited version that only fits the dub.




Ultimatecrimson wrote:

Will the dubs also air on Crunchyroll?

I would find it a bit strange if they didn't. It would basically be the same as CR saying, "We think streaming dubs hurts physical media sales" (as opposed to promoting them).




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My fears confirmed.

http://www.crunchyroll.com/forumtopic-957005/clarification-on-catalog-availability

Why was this kept quietly in the help forum. That's a huge list of (Sentai) titles that disappeared without any warning.

That happened before CR's foray into home media was announced, so I doubt it was a consequence of CR entering the home video market. (Although I wouldn't be surprised if Sentai at least heard murmurs about this while we were all unaware).

As I've mentioned elsewhere, CR's relationship with Sentai already seemed to be cooling (the two Hulu exclusives earlier this year being one example). So while once upon a time I would have seen this as a bad thing, now I see it as a possible good move for strengthening their streaming position (as CR too can now dangle the possibility of a home video license).

As to why it was "kept quietly in the help forum", CR has never had a policy of announcing titles were gone after it already happened. Unless they had some advance warning, they've never been announced in Site News.

As for why CR would have had no advance warning, either the titles were up for renewal but CR expected them to be renewed (and CR has never done a "We might lose these titles" warning), or after a certain period of guaranteed availability, they reverted to "at will" status, meaning Sentai could terminate CR's right at any time they wished.




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As mentioned by some people already, the most important question for many of us is if the blu-rays and DVDs are solely locked to region A/1 or region free.

I can guarantee they won't be region free, as that would allow easy reverse importing into Japan.
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Really pleased to hear this! Does this mean we could be seeing Kaiji on Blu-Ray/DVD? Oh god I hope so!!!
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oh wow very nice! any chance any of these getting dub?
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That CRTC approval of a Gintama dub now makes sense. So Canadian dub huh? That will either be great or shitty depending on which studio does it.


wait what?
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Wow I'm excited about it yay^_^
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Berserk will have original cast again like the movies, right?
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Hope they the home video rights to Mob Psycho 100 and ReZero.
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curr0001 wrote:

oh wow very nice! any chance any of these getting dub?


Read near the end of the first post again:


Crunchyroll is excited to announce our entry into the home video market with the following upcoming English-dubbed Blu-Ray and DVD releases:

Berserk
Big Order
Free! Iwatobi Swim Club
Gintama
Kabaneri of the Iron Fortress
Myriad Colors Phantom World
Yamada-kun & the Seven Witches
And many more still to be announced!
We're still working out a lot of the details but we wanted to share some of our planned releases with you. More to come!
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darkdeath174 wrote:

That CRTC approval of a Gintama dub now makes sense. So Canadian dub huh? That will either be great or shitty depending on which studio does it.


wait what?



I don't know how you want me to be anymore clear.

At the start of June the CRTC approved a dub for Gintama as Canadian content, which was confusing as people still thought Sentai had it.

This also means it has a high chance of getting on TV.
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This is awesome news. Finally, the entire series of Gintama will be on bluray :). That makes me the happiest otaku ever.. Can you do Sket Dance next.? Could you also get the legal rights to Viewtiful Joe? America really messed that one up and not all the episodes were brought over. I would love the entire dubbed uncut series of that anime.
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TheAncientOne wrote:
that sounds logical, and you probably understand this better than me, but my reason for believing it may have a negative impact was based on Funimation's business model. Funimation owns the rights to some huge franchises and series (Dragonball, One Piece, Yu Yu Hakusho in particular are the main ones I'm referring to), and produce a huge amount of dubs and (overpriced) physical releases, yet they rarely seem to obtain half the number of streaming titles as Crunchyroll does. I guess this led me to believe that all their money was going towards obtaining dub and physical release licenses, which is why they have less to put towards lineups in general.

A lot can be attributed to Funimation being later to begin streaming, and much later than CR to treat it as a serious business.

I also suspect they still haven't adopted CR's "license every title feasible" approach vs. what was clearly at one time a selective approach for Funimation.


IDK they just buckled down MHA and that's bound to be huge, you are correct that they don't get as many simulcast, but they get some big hitters for sure! funimation honestly hits a soft spot for me because they supported anime before the legal streamers and the delivered quality with their subs and dubbing process. Honestly if it was not for funimation a lot of shows from before the success of streaming would probably have never gotten over to me and many others. much respect although cr is there for most simulcast funimation has been there for a long time.

love you funimation! <3



i guess ill forgive the AX exclusives being mailed out to new premium members CR B/. you guys still get some love but your in the doghouse.
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JubJub87 wrote:

Holy crap. Do Yowamushi pedal blu rays for the love of god please. I know you have that license hidden.


Discotek is releasing it subbed on DVD only

@OP: Ya'll need to release Reborn! and Bungou Stray Dogs on Bluray I don't care if it isn't dubbed I want it. xD



Discotek can shove that DVD only release up their butt. I forget where but I remember learning that discotek publishes shows like Yowamushi pedal using crunchyrolls liscense.
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TheDustyForest wrote: That sounds logical, and you probably understand this better than me, but my reason for believing it may have a negative impact was based on Funimation's business model. Funimation owns the rights to some huge franchises and series (Dragonball, One Piece, Yu Yu Hakusho in particular are the main ones I'm referring to), and produce a huge amount of dubs and (overpriced) physical releases, yet they rarely seem to obtain half the number of streaming titles as Crunchyroll does. I guess this led me to believe that all their money was going towards obtaining dub and physical release licenses, which is why they have less to put towards lineups in general.


Crunchyroll's streaming has been self-funding for a number of years now. Crunchyroll is not a publicly traded company, so there are not annual reports to look at, but sometimes information is let out, either by Crunchyroll announcing it or sometimes by minority owner TV Tokyo releasing information to inform their investors.

Crunchyroll hit break-even sometime in the second year after they went completely legit, and all indications are that they have been profitable since. And this is almost entirely anime streaming, because that is Crunchyroll's bread and butter.

So that's why I said that streaming on Crunchyroll is self-funding.

Funimation is a North American physical media distributor first and foremost. The reason they got those series was in order to sell the discs. And they originally got into streaming to popularize the discs. Indeed, a few year back in an ANNcast interview, they confirmed that they were not making money off of streaming.

So even just a few years ago, Funimation could outbid any offer Crunchyroll could afford to make ... as long as Funimation was acquiring a title for physical release. But their streaming was not self-funding, so they could acquire some streaming titles to try to bring in more viewers for their streaming channels, or to make a final decision on whether or not to pick up a series ... but as long as they were losing money streaming, they could not make a bid for everything that airs on Japanese television in a season, when they could not possibly do a physical release of all of those shows.

And note, that is exactly what Crunchyroll does ... they bid for a simulcast license for every anime that airs on Japanese television in a season. Since Crunchyroll puts in a bid for all of those streaming rights, a big part of what decides how many series they get is how many of those series have other licensors bidding for the streaming rights.

I would not be surprised if Funimation has started to earn a modest profit from their streaming. At any rate, that would line up with the increased aggressiveness of Funimation in pursuing simulcast rights. They still do not seem like they are bidding for everything ... and still seem to be focused on series that they might consider for physical distribution. But they have started to be more aggressive in pursuing streaming only rights.

Even with an ability to release physical discs, Crunchyroll likely cannot win a head to head bidding war against Funimation for physical distribution rights. But one thing that Crunchyroll can do to win a fight with Funimation for streaming rights when Funimation is not willing to commit to a physical release is to be able to promise a physical release of a title.

So that's one way that the move can increase the number of series simulcasting on the site.

Also, sometimes the rights holder does not offer streaming rights alone, and the only way for Crunchyroll to get the streaming rights is to pick up the distribution rights. But then, because Crunchyroll has not had an established way to actually do the physical distribution, there comes the time specified in the contract when the rights lapse if the release has not been made ... and so the rights lapse, and Crunchyroll loses the title from its streaming catalog.

Having a small DVD/BD distribution operation can also allow Crunchyroll to hold onto the occasional title like that. Once the release has been made, then the streaming rights would continue for the time remaining in the contract.

So that's another way that the move can increase the size of the site's back catalog.

A third thing that Crunchyroll can do is to do is license rescues of series which has it's existing license expiring where the North American distributor does not want to renew. This is also a way to increase the size of the site's back catalog. Since Crunchyroll would be negotiating a new license, it's also one path toward expanding the region rights available for catalog titles, since Crunchyroll could negotiate for wider streaming rights to go along with North American physical distribution.

I don't expect Crunchyroll will use this to bid against physical distributors who wish to use Crunchyroll to stream their series ... that would be counter-productive if it leads to those distributors not sublicensing simulcasts to Crunchyroll.


TheAncientOne wrote:


DeathlyForceX wrote: As mentioned by some people already, the most important question for many of us is if the blu-rays and DVDs are solely locked to region A/1 or region free.


I can guarantee they won't be region free, as that would allow easy reverse importing into Japan.

The DVD's won't be region free, to be sure.

However, Blu-Ray discs that are A/B would correspond quite well with Crunchyoll's common "Worldwide ex-Asia" streaming licensing, and because Japan and North America are both in A, the only way to avoid reverse importation are delaying the North American BD release or leaving the Japanese audio off of the rights sold (and for myself, I personally prefer the former to the latter, since I do not like dub-only releases).

The other reason for them to be A/1 is to be able to on-sell the "English language country" distribution rights to the UK and Oz.
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Is Gate coming to Bluray?
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JubJub87 wrote:

Holy crap. Do Yowamushi pedal blu rays for the love of god please. I know you have that license hidden.


Discotek is releasing it subbed on DVD only

@OP: Ya'll need to release Reborn! and Bungou Stray Dogs on Bluray I don't care if it isn't dubbed I want it. xD



Discotek can shove that DVD only release up their butt. I forget where but I remember learning that discotek publishes shows like Yowamushi pedal using crunchyrolls liscense.


Crunchyroll gave them the licenses to be exact
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