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American pres race, who are you planning to vote for?
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I am sorely tempted to write 'none of the presidential candidates meet the requirements to receive my vote' on my ballot this time around.

Still, this is something we as American citizens brought upon ourselves when we allowed 'politics of personal destruction' to become the norm rather than the exception in our elections. There's always been rough and tumble politics, but now it's out of hand.

For the mainstream, we have as a star performer a man who is combining xenophobia, racism, protectionism, and misogyny and selling it to the American people as a way to make America 'Great' again. Frankly, America was never as great as the politicos and nostalgia would have you believe. While it's normal to long for 'the good ole' days', folk that seriously think they were actually better times need to be thumped with a clue by four. Better times for them, perhaps - for others, not so much.

On the other side of the mainstream choices, the other performer has shown questionable judgement in terms of e-mail servers and allowing her husband to meet with the AG that's supposed to decide if there are any actionable issues surrounding the 'possible crimes' that those who distrust her think she's committed - which strikes me as appallingly stupid for a wide variety of reasons. And for those of you who want to shout 'Benghazi' let me remind you that none of the investigations have shown demonstrably criminal actions - if they had, charges would have been put forward long before this.

A vote for any third party candidate doesn't help as none of the third parties are especially viable.

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Interesting results so far. In the interest of full disclosure and fair play I feel I'd be remiss by not pointing out the poll I started in the Polls section, too. The results of that poll do not include votes here, so if you want to be represented in that one you'll need to vote again. The poll in this thread reflects its viewership, which I thought an interesting piece of data in itself, but I also wanted to get CR's general sense of things. So that's why there are two polls.

http://www.crunchyroll.com/forumtopic-958033/in-the-us-presidential-election-i-willwould-vote-for
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The Donald! At best he will fix our broken economy, at worst he will force the Democrats to nominate somebody who isn't a criminal next election cycle.
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gildiin wrote:

Don't like Trump and don't trust Clinton. If Gary Johnson had a chance of even winning 1 state I'd vote Libertarian. In the end, it will probably more advantageous for me if Trump wins, so I guess I'd be greedy and vote Trump.

I live in a swing state so I feel obligated to go vote.


Lucky, I live in a non swing state so my vote basically doesn't matter
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Begrudgingly probably Hillary, virtue of being not electable and being not Trump. I don't like it, but the pragmatist in mean says it's the least bad option.
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gildiin wrote:

Don't like Trump and don't trust Clinton. If Gary Johnson had a chance of even winning 1 state I'd vote Libertarian. In the end, it will probably more advantageous for me if Trump wins, so I guess I'd be greedy and vote Trump.

I live in a swing state so I feel obligated to go vote.


Lucky, I live in a non swing state so my vote basically doesn't matter


I know the feeling. Voted Bush in 04, Obama in 08 and Romney in 12 when I lived in California. None of those votes seemed to really matter. At least California propositions are interesting to vote on.
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It kills me to say this, but Clinton because Trump will seriously ruin this country.

So would Clinton in a way, but she's the lesser evil.

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If you hate both candidates (like pretty much every sane person should), vote Gary Johnson...
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One does not "think" and "vote Trump" at the same time. ;p

I sincerely do not buy the whole "both sides are bad" narrative this election. Your options are a center left democrat and a xenophobic nativist demagogue that has virtually no understanding of government or global politics. Let alone economics or trade. Who quite literally can't even run a primary campaign nevermind a country. Who can't take even the mildest criticism and displays all the temperament and tact of a narcissistic toddler.

I mean cripes, people. This isn't even an argument. You may not like Clinton but the worst she's going to do is maintain the status quo left by Obama. On the other hand you could become a global embarrassment on par with Best Korea except with actual nukes. You would literally be better off voting in an actual orangutan rather than someone that looks like they shaved an orangutan then tried to glue its hair back on.

Throwing your vote away in protest isn't going to help.

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runec wrote:

Throwing your vote away in protest isn't going to help.
People who do this ... smh
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i'm 31, i've never voted, and the way its been going, looks like i never will. i don't care to choose between 'asshole A' and 'douchebag B'. i'd rather play the witcher 3 lol
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I'm voting for Hillary
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I refuse to vote for anyone. I might even just WWOOF for 4 years in another country.
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sundin13 wrote:

If you hate both candidates (like pretty much every sane person should), vote Gary Johnson...


Voting for a third party carries the inherent risk that a candidate needs a majority of electoral votes to be voted into office. If, hypothetically, the electoral votes ended up being 48% Trump, 48% Clinton, and 4% Johnson, then House of Representatives (I believe the current congress?) gets to decide who is the next president. Of course, the fact that most states run on a "winner takes all" with electoral votes means that electoral votes will usually be given to Trump or Clinton; plus, I'm not sure if states with a "winner takes all" go by majority or plurality.

In either case though, Johnson would need to seize at least 50%+1 of electoral votes in order to successfully be elected to president. This would likely require every person who doesn't vote during a presidential election to vote for Johnson and then some Republicans or Democrats (likely the former) to vote for Johnson, in addition to the regular third party voters. I don't see that being realistic, and I'd rather avoid the election going to the House.
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