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American pres race, who are you planning to vote for?
Posted 7/2/16
I can't bring myself to vote for Hillary, and Trump was never an option.
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Posted 7/3/16

Rujikin wrote:
So? Party loyalty got us into this situation and Trump is his own man.


If by which you mean self serving narcissist, sure. -.-



Rujikin wrote:Haha you think its the crazies or right wingers that has trumps support? You have been watching too much liberal news network. Even the Republican party painted it as that to try to discourage voting for him. Trump has the support of moderates and independants with the right wingers having no choice but to vote for him.


Let me just stop you right there. As everything after this point is veering off from reality. The support of moderates and independents? The right wingers having no choice but to vote for him? Where are you even getting that? You are correct in that you can't win an election without the moderates but Trump is driving those screaming away from him. Moderates are, you know, moderate.

There is nothing moderate about Trump in any capacity or aspect.



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If we're talking on who has the most potential to actually turn the economy around, I would vote for Trump.

That said I don't think his ideas are on target, not by a long shot in some places, but at least we know that he would try to give back to America and make something of it as President. I don't think all his plans will succeed, and some of them are ridiculous and poorly thought out - but I view them as attempts. Donald Trump is just a man. The President also does not work alone. I do feel like he's a man that doesn't want to see his country become a free-for-all, though, which is a belief that I strongly share.

We ALL know that Hillary doesn't. She wants power and money. She's not afraid to commit crimes like fraud or murder to get them, and she doesn't care who you are or how you're living, because she's doing just fine. Where Trump won't hesitate to spell it out for you, even if it's not what you want to hear, Hillary will simply not say anything about it and do what she wants, because why not? She's above the law. She thinks nothing of national security and doesn't understand the importance of something as base as encryption. She doesn't give a damn about her FBI investigation - and that she's being investigated by the FBI for things she did that are common knowledge should disqualify her from the presidential race in the first place. Is someone who couldn't handle all this previously really qualified to lead one of the world's most powerful countries?

I am very conflicted this year, but right now the choice is simple because Hillary will run this country into the ground to line her and her friend's pockets - not the American's she'll be taking that money from. The Clinton's aren't going to change their ways just because another one makes it into office.

I've never considered leaving my home country before this year - never seriously considered it, until now. Our choices suck regardless of whether you identify as Democrat or Republican, though I vote for the individual and their policies and could give a rats ass about the partisan.

Don't worry though, if Obama has his way there won't even be a United States of America, by his own words.
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Posted 7/3/16
Honestly, I feel that this is a difficult issue. Trump has already made America look like a bunch of idiots. hell he will likely still do that after the election, the good news is he may not be the president.

Hillary is a liar with a big team that tells her how to lie.

Both are cheaters.

Trump likely has better business sense

Hillary likely has better political sense.

I like hillary in the rare moments when she is unscripted, but dislike her every time she is scripted which is 99% of the time.

Yeah, I really don't like either of them but I lean hillary only because of international diplomacy issues. We can't have trump representing us. My two cents.

I would vote Gary Johnson, but think an America with Trump as president is unacceptable.
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Posted 7/3/16

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Make Trump use all of his OWN money then quickly impeach him before he can even finish using two cans of hair spray.


It may not take as long as you think. He's currently being sued by 2 Attorney Generals (over the Trump University Fraud Charges...and hopefully they'll get him for perjury due to all the lies in his deposition under oath), a woman he allegedly raped when she was 13 (she has a few witnesses including one of Trump's alleged co-conspirators and friends), a bunch of workers he refused to pay and the lawsuit over the golf course in the UK that he stiffed when jumping to Scotland. Oh, and last I heard the IRS investigation of him was still ongoing. His refusal to show his tax records is obviously due to him lying about his wealth like he admitted doing years ago. If even half these lawsuits come down before November he's most likely through in the race since career Republican supporters are jumping ship on him by either refusing to support him or backing Clinton due to knowing she's at least less likely to cause an International incident with our allies.

I still have no clue who I'm voting for but know one thing...it won't be Mr. Badhair Creamsicle.


That's incredible info you got there. I know he got failed projects here and there.
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Posted 7/3/16
although I have problems with both, Hillary is a liar and is extremely shady. Plus, she is the establishment candidate which just means we will get the same old same old. at least trump is different and something might change in the political landscape and the economy. However, i really don't like either of them that much. I am still going to vote though. Not voting means that i can't complain about what happens afterward if i didn't try to do something. My vote may not even matter, but at least it might make me feel better. Once again, the American public has to choose between someone who is bad and someone who is worse
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Posted 7/3/16
I really don't want to vote for any of them. I think whoever wins they'll both probably have hard time trying to get stuff passed through congress and that is something people don't ever bring up. We might not be able to vote for a candidate that deserves to be in office but if that candidate can't get anything through congress I think we will probably be fine but then yet again a lot of politicians are corrupt :/
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Posted 7/3/16

onibrotonel wrote:


neugenx wrote:


onibrotonel wrote:

Make Trump use all of his OWN money then quickly impeach him before he can even finish using two cans of hair spray.


It may not take as long as you think. He's currently being sued by 2 Attorney Generals (over the Trump University Fraud Charges...and hopefully they'll get him for perjury due to all the lies in his deposition under oath), a woman he allegedly raped when she was 13 (she has a few witnesses including one of Trump's alleged co-conspirators and friends), a bunch of workers he refused to pay and the lawsuit over the golf course in the UK that he stiffed when jumping to Scotland. Oh, and last I heard the IRS investigation of him was still ongoing. His refusal to show his tax records is obviously due to him lying about his wealth like he admitted doing years ago. If even half these lawsuits come down before November he's most likely through in the race since career Republican supporters are jumping ship on him by either refusing to support him or backing Clinton due to knowing she's at least less likely to cause an International incident with our allies.

I still have no clue who I'm voting for but know one thing...it won't be Mr. Badhair Creamsicle.


That's incredible info you got there. I know he got failed projects here and there.


The idiot has been plastered all over the news and has proven that the saying "any publicity is good publicity" isn't true in his or Hillary Clinton's cases. Just last night he tweeted an anti-semitic picture and had to do damage control. Too bad the reporters all saw it and got screencaps before he got a chance to get rid of it. His "friends' " defenses of him not being a bigot just keep getting harder for them to justify it seems.
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Posted 7/3/16

neugenx wrote:


onibrotonel wrote:


neugenx wrote:


onibrotonel wrote:

Make Trump use all of his OWN money then quickly impeach him before he can even finish using two cans of hair spray.


It may not take as long as you think. He's currently being sued by 2 Attorney Generals (over the Trump University Fraud Charges...and hopefully they'll get him for perjury due to all the lies in his deposition under oath), a woman he allegedly raped when she was 13 (she has a few witnesses including one of Trump's alleged co-conspirators and friends), a bunch of workers he refused to pay and the lawsuit over the golf course in the UK that he stiffed when jumping to Scotland. Oh, and last I heard the IRS investigation of him was still ongoing. His refusal to show his tax records is obviously due to him lying about his wealth like he admitted doing years ago. If even half these lawsuits come down before November he's most likely through in the race since career Republican supporters are jumping ship on him by either refusing to support him or backing Clinton due to knowing she's at least less likely to cause an International incident with our allies.

I still have no clue who I'm voting for but know one thing...it won't be Mr. Badhair Creamsicle.


That's incredible info you got there. I know he got failed projects here and there.


The idiot has been plastered all over the news and has proven that the saying "any publicity is good publicity" isn't true in his or Hillary Clinton's cases. Just last night he tweeted an anti-semitic picture and had to do damage control. Too bad the reporters all saw it and got screencaps before he got a chance to get rid of it. His "friends' " defenses of him not being a bigot just keep getting harder for them to justify it seems.

Erm, I think you might be taking a shape too seriously.

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Erm, I think you might be taking a shape too seriously.


They traced the original image back to a white supremacist forum. So, no, he's not taking it too seriously. -.-
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runec wrote:


Radraymond01 wrote:
Erm, I think you might be taking a shape too seriously.


They traced the original image back to a white supremacist forum. So, no, he's not taking it too seriously. -.-


Oh stormfags....
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Posted 7/3/16
I am voting for a third party. I am gonna vote for Zoltan Istvan
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Posted 7/3/16 , edited 7/3/16
Clinton. Not exactly an inspiring choice but she won't rock the boat too much.

Trump is a disgrace. I would be ashamed if he even came close to winning.

Honestly I would much rather give Obama a 3rd term than vote for either of them.
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Posted 7/3/16
Gary Johnson
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Posted 7/3/16 , edited 7/3/16
Hillary. Nativism and isolationism are a wonderful way to bring technological progress and the local economy to a crawl. I'm not voting for him. I just can't.
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