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Posted 7/5/16

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electricdoomfire wrote:

since you brought up Re:zero, i wanted to ask if it was any good. I've heard it is pretty popular and i have it in my queue, but i'd like to know if it is truly any good before i decide to watch it.



On MyAnimelist forums, a particular LN/WN anime compare thread has 12+ replies. I tend to stay away from any sort of discussions or recommendations when it comes to my anime viewing experience/pleasure. I will take a more numerical approach in answering you. Yes, it is popular, it is certainly talked about a lot. However, I do not like it. I do not enjoy the protagonist, his mawkish antics to "get the girl" is repugnant.

The anime, to me, creates a protagonist that is in the story for the sake of plot progression and could give two sheetz about. It is really hard for me like any anime where I cannot see myself in the shoes of the protagonist -- which is very off putting.

This is how I feel, if you do not have these tendencies it could be a shoe you will enjoy.


personally, I get tired of the type of protagonist that is just too perfect and idealistic. The typical male shounen anime character that just wants to help everybody just cause and wants to save the world. I used to like these types of characters but I get tired of how perfect they are. I want a character that is flawed in some way. For instance, tons of people hate on shinji akari from evangelion but I like him because he is a realistic character that is visibly affected by the events in the series. In many ways, that is why I like him. In many ways, I get tired of all these static characters that never change. I wish more shows had gradual character development.

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It will always surprise me from time to time, there is always that one writer that throws all logic out the window and comes up with something so stupid there is no way you can see it coming.
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I can't say much in media surprises me anymore. Stories get recycled a lot. That said I do get pleasantly surprised from time to time which is nice. Good to know some originality is out there.
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That's why I'm hoping for a good summer and fall seasons. So far most anime have been predictable; although in some cases I don't mind, like Bungo Stray Dogs (I love the Bones action/comedy combo), but New Game ad some others from the season, and past ones so far (like Kabaneri) had me bored.
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I'm 38, have been watching TV since I was 5, movies since I was 6, reading real novels since I was 9, and watching anime since I was 18. I've also been a writer for over 20 years.

These days, it's a refreshing change of pace when something does manage to surprise me. Which is why I was instantly hooked on Haifuri after the first episode, because I honestly did not see that coming.
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Well, a lot of anime IS really predictable, and once you've been around for a little while, you start to notice that. A lot of anime is aimed at a fleeting audience, so you get the same basic idea and plot re-packaged every few years for a new generation, and once you start noticing that, it's not going to be as surprising anymore. Shonen, especially Jump shows, is the prime example: Your first shonen is going to seem mid-blowing and unpredictable, but once you go through a few of them, you start to notice where the strings are attached. And then there's the trends going through late-night anime, making a lot of shows essentially the same thing with a different coat of paint (right now it's battle harem, before that we had a truckload of basically-identical cute girls doing cute things shows every year, before that it was melodramatic VN adaptations). Shows that rely on character archetypes can also go stale fast, once you can predict everything a character will do because she has twintails and is voiced by Rie Kugimiya.

Basically, you're right. I'd suggest two ways to deal with this problem (besides just quitting anime, which many people do once they reach this stage) Both involve becoming very selective in what you watch, but in different ways. Now, I have no clue how you watch anime and how much, so I'm not giving any specific recommendations, but hopefully this isn't too off the mark.

My first suggestion is to seek out the weird and unpredictable. Most anime is full of cliches, but there are shows that are not, and if you look around and follow reviewers or fans who are in the same place as you, you will find them. Shorts are often a good bet, but there is usually at least one pretty unconventional thing every season. Of course, shows that are odd and experimental are no more certain to be GOOD than other shows, and you'll likely miss out on a lot of the things that are enjoyable about more cliche shows (a lot of the weirdest stuff out there does't even look conventionally 'anime') but there ARE shows out there that are pretty damn unpredictable, and sometimes good as well.

My second suggestion is to keep watching the same shows, but stop caring about being surprised. Basically, start enjoying them for the mood, the artistry, the humor, the animation, the specific character tics that you like, etc, instead of the plot. For a lot of fans, the plot is less of a priority than things like explosive sakuga sequences, spending time with characters who feel like friends (of waifus), or sinking into the mood of a particular time and place (after all, nobody watches Aria for the plot). This approach involves deciding what you REALLY like and then seeking out the best possible shows to give you that. So, say, if you like cute girls doing cute things, don't just watch whatever - watch the very best KyoAni shows.


well, even if I can predict what might happen in an anime, I can still enjoy it if the story is interesting and the characters don't simply embody clichés and actually have personality and likeabiity. Durarara is a great example of this. And yes, I am always open to new shows and I love psychological type shows for the reason that it goes against the topic of this forum. A lot of psychological anime have great storylines with constantly changing plot development and twists and turns. in shows such as death note or code geass, I can't really fully predict everything that is going to happen because the writer is trying to surprise me. That is what keeps me invested. It challenges me on a sort of mental level and is enjoyable for me to try to predict what is going to happen. However, my predictions themselves are never fully right and that is what I love. Good shows need to have something the viewer can anticapte and look forward to. I don't what to keep getting the same rehashed storlines and narratives that writer use in order to subdue their fanbase. I think that more anime need to strive to keep things interesting and throw some plot twists at the viewer so that the show is given some variety among the others and the viewer can more deeply get invested in the story. It also helps when a show has a simple premise that gives it a lot of room for variety. Even western shows can do that in a very good way. One example is mad men where it seems to just be about a guy In an ad agency but it is so much more on a deeper level. Also, the simple premise allows for the writers to throw in some scenes that really take the viewer by surprise. But I suppose it is up to the creators and the writers to take that type of initiative.
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The only way I'm ever surprised anymore is how bad a show can be.


This. Especially on why I finish this show to the end.
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I'm not as big an anime watcher as some others, but I am starting to notice that a lot of the animes I watch feel very similar.
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of course. watch enough of ANY media, and you'll pick up on similar themes, tropes, and the general flow of events.

that being said... there's always going to be at least one off-kilter anime that will surprise you, every now and again.
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watch re:zero through to episode 15 then come back and ask that question.
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I don't think there will ever be a point where absolutely nothing would surprise me. Even if I know most shows will end with the main character triumphing (though that's to be expected since most people don't tend to write about failure stories), I doubt I could predict every twist and turn towards the conclusion. Then, there are also shows that are pointless to try and predict like Ai-Mai-Mi.

Of recent memory, the most surprising twists for me where:

Youjo Senki


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I have to admit that anime seems to suffer a bit more from tropes, clichés and overall predictability than other forms of entertainment. For example if I were to say an anime was a sci-fi, 9 out of 10 times that would mean mecha and about some giant human shaped machine/vehicle. Fantasy gets a bit more varied, but even they are fairly of types. And that's just the setting. For some reason the industry often seems to think that characters should be designed according to stereotype and some checklist of what every successful anime must have. Especially the female characters. If the plot on top of all that is less than original and badly told, then it is a recipe for disaster.

It has been my considered opinion for a while that the industry is too conservative and tends to play it too safe. They do what has always been done and what they know sells. Every now and then somebody does something different and new, and guess what, in most cases it is a success. Personally I wish they would get more inventive with their settings and perhaps have less of a tendency to fall back on the same plot devices. I can't tell you how tired I am of government conspiracies cropping up. A bit was fine at first but after a while I had enough. Watching a fantasy and somewhere along the line it became more of a political intrigue in fancy dress. Aliens and humans at war slowly became only a backdrop to human political infighting. If I wanted politics I'd watch the news.
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Every now and then somebody does something different and new, and guess what, in most cases it is a success.

Is that really true, or is this a case where perception doesn't match the facts? If you went through each season for the past several years and checked off each title that you thought met that criteria, would the result truly be more commercial successes than failures?

If your answer is, "I didn't mean commercial success", then you've answered your own question.

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Even if you can predict what happen that means the show won't be fun. Take Dragonball Z we all know Cell would be defeated but hell everyone loves it because the show is do damn good.
The issue when a show sucks and is predictable like Naruto or SAO . But it's even worse when something is so complicated it makes 0 sense But maybe you should try Monster it's a good 80 episodes of seemingly unexpected.
I would recommend 3x3 Eyes too but its a decent short anime that they "ended" compared toh ow long the manga is and it's got a few unexpected moments.

If you know absolutely nothing about Berserk you can watch the 97 anime and you'll be fucking shocked at the end.
You could try Serial Experiments Lain and guess where it goes.
When I watched RahXephon and I loved it I didn't expect it's ending at all. You could also try Perfect Blue.

Hell most people I know who watched RahXephon said they only understood the ending after they watched the movie where it explained the ending
Except both the movie and series have vastly diffrent ending. so to this day they still don't know what happens they just think they do.

Haha you could watch Kore wa Zombie desu ka just to be surprised by how fucking bad Episode 12 is.

Finally Video Girl A.I. is a good anime you watch and after it ends I'll doubt you know exactly what happened or predict it and you'll be questioning it for a while to come. Even to do this I'm not exactly sure what happened at the end I mean I know but I don't know



Hope this helps. If it doesn't you could always just stopped watching anime for a while you may be a bit burnt out.
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